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27 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

So I think your assessment is we are spending pretty much about where we were and the budget is relatively static? The moves and new contracts all cancel each other out? If that's the case, would it not be reasonable to think as revenues increase (which they are doing), we could expect to see that filter into the team? Isn't that the whole ideal of increasing revenues? So when Salah gets a new contract, perhaps it's funded with some Nike, standard chartered or any of the other sponsorship income streams rather than having to reallocated another players wages? Or perhaps some extre TV money? And if we're short on money for fees, would that not be supported by the massive unexpected incomes we must have got last year for taking part in 63 matches? 

 

I really don't think it should be too difficult to find the money. We just don't want while we have 8 midfielders on the books. 

 

It's not just finding money. It's committing to 150k a week for 5 years, plus the transfer fee, plus whatever else is involved with a signing.

Increased revenues usually creates bonus payments, better salaries across the entire operation, and more marketing spend.

I'm sure the accounts show an increase in wages evey single season since Klopp got here.

I also believe we have one of the highest wage bills in football. Klopp has a massive backroom, with specialists for all sorts of things, including penalty neuroscience and throw ins

He knows the fucking budget, is my point.

We'll absolutely batter these cunts.

Anyone who plays Championship Manager, or has any budgeting experience, knows that transfer fees, signing on fees and wages come out the same pot.

Milner is on fuck all unless he plays, and Salah and Nunez have taken the Mane and Origi salaries between them.

We've added Carvalho and Ramsey, with a new feal for Elliott, probably all covered by the Milner savings and Minamino being sold.

That's without even bringing in the unexpected cost of Diaz for 6 months.

There's Oxlade and Keita costing us £270k a week, and unless they leave, we aren't buying shit. Klopp knows this 100%.

We had the same discussion last season about Wijnaldum, and it was obvious what would happen the minute Klopp decided Elliott was a midfielder.

I reckon he was trying to both shut the fans up with this right player nonsense and his sarky "you were right" bollocks, and also put pressure on the team to start performing.

On 16/08/2022 at 07:11, JohnnyH said:

The twitter machine is saying his injury is a lot worse then initially intimidated and he could be long term out. Some saying after World Cup. Some saying season is over. Worrying if even a kernel of truth. 

Would explain why Big Nat is still here.

2 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Ozan kabak managed 9 games and allowed us to get fab back into midfield. He wasn't great, but he was better than nothing. We probably wouldn't have made top 4 without that signing.  A player who can come on and just help us hold onto a game and rest the legs of some midfielders could make all the difference this season. We're now into a period where we'd normally rotate, but have no capacity to do so anywhere really except left back. 

What he really did was prove to Klopp that anyone could play at centre back with Fab in midfield.

11 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I don't know how to do that but if you can remember let's revisit in may/june whenever the fuck the season ends these days. 

Done

Just now, Bjornebye said:

I think they will finish above Spurs. 

Pin this post.

There is no way Arsenal are finishing above us, City, Chelsea or Spurs.

13 minutes ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

Tielemans is an excellent player, whether he's right for our midfield system is another matter, and whether our current midfield system is the right midfield system to take us forward is another question altogether anyway.

He really isn't, and that is why no one is interested in him, despite the car boot sale Leicester have going on there.

On 24/08/2022 at 08:34, Daisy said:

Been a complete fucking mess since Gini left and never replaced him

I know. Last season was an utter ahit show, wasn't it?

Although, judging from your appearances im here, you may have missed 85% of it. 

They played like the underdog, and with more fight, they beat us like we used to beat them when we were shit.

They'll drop so many points against the bottom half of the table.

Why the fuck are we in pot 2??

36 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

This is a good description of his strengths. They are quite easy to spot, as are his weaknesses imo. Main weaknesses is that he’s too slow, and not good enough in 50/50s on the ground nor in the air.

 

With his fitness record though, none of this really matters he should be replaced.

He's a shithouse, and a bit delicate for this league. Bad combination 

On 17/08/2022 at 15:32, El Rojo said:

That clip is an interesting watch. Didn't really notice it much on the night, but great defending from Anderson in those examples, just completely outmuscling Nunez and not giving him any space. He's very fast, so we need to exploit that more than playing it to him with his back to goal. Needs to get stronger too but that will come with time. 

Fair enough, but he could have had 2, maybe 3 goals when he completely lost the big goof, and was sent off with 30 minutes to spare.

11 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Because it took talk away from our start to the season and made the talking point of the press conference the tithead on the radio. It's just reducing the pressure on our boys before Monday. 

And clearly prepped.

There's no way he remembers that tit from the 6-0 in 2015.

Just now, George Costanza said:

Jones isn;t good enough. Jury stil very much out on Elliott.

What a fabulous input to the discussion.

6 hours ago, magicrat said:

As I typed it I knew . Fully deserved. 

And yet you still hit 'Submit Reply'.

Nagged again.

10 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Well the sander berg stuff might just be shite. 

 

I agree it's weird we're leaving all the work on midfield to next year. But I'd be shocked if we brought someone in now. Although I'd also be shocked if we brought in 3 next summer like Joyce was suggesting. 

We won't be bringing in 3 to start though, will we?

We'll have Henderson, Thiago, Fabinho and Elliott, plus potentially Jones if he can break through. 

Bringing in 3 new midfielders will not destabilise us in any detrimental way, especiallyif they are here for the full pre season.

12 hours ago, HBenn said:

You cannot help but wonder whether the injuries have got to do with the Schlumberger promotion and Moxon going. It was a bit weird that he went by mutual consent and there were no quotes from Klopp, especially after he probably saved Elliott's career. Albeit I am not sure how all the roles interact and whether Moxon would be that involved in the injury prevention aspects.

Maybe, they have just done things differently this season or the fact that usually, after they kill them in Austria for a week/two they can gradually build their level up instead of this time round where they have had to build it up more quickly.

Either way, do wonder if the club are starting to have worries about virtually all their midfielders and whether that will drive them to push harder for one of their targets.

If they are only planning to bring in say Bellingham and he clearly is not available I imagine we will grin and bear it but if they are planning to bring in another as well or they were planning on waiting for the price of a target to lower next summer then maybe they will pay a bit more to get him now.

 

Jurgen made the point in the sky interview that contract length impacts price. Maybe before the injury worries they were happy to wait a season and get player x for a certain price. Maybe now they may think they maybe not be able to rely on any of the players and so they will pay the extra to get in player x now. For example, if the player they like is Barella, his cost may have been seen as prohibitive as he has ages left on his contract, maybe they will push harder now though.

 

All that said, my gut says that while there has been a slight softening from Jürgen in tone we will just grin and bear it until next summer now.

Do you work for thr Athletic?

He's going to score a fuck ton of goals for us.

Proper fucking striker.

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

I follow him on instagram. Some life he's got. I can't stop watching this gif hahahahaha for fuck sake 

Link please 

You have to earn the right to a seat as a pundit.

You do that through your football career, or through the insight you provide.

It's rare you get both, but neither is unacceptable. 

3 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

They're absolutely random. We wanted Gotze and Brandt. We got Mane and Salah. Alisson, was available due to Fekir deal falling through. Same for Nunes this summer after Touchameni turned us down. Every signing is nothing but random opportunism.

See what I did here?

1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

Talk they've agreed wages with Fofana of Leicester but they want £80m for him. Gordon, they'll have to offer the shite £60m to sell I reckon. They want De Jong and maybe Aubameyang. They might not sign all 4 but even if they sign just 2, that'll be another £100m+.

 

They've already spent £167m and recouped just over £26m.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chelsea-fc/transfers/verein/631/plus/1?saison_id=2022&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=s

Aye.

That's their £200 mil free hit.

It would be rude not to take it when offered, like.

The must need to sell again after what they spunked on what's her name.