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What do people think of Liverpool's loan dealings? We currently have the following players out on loan, and I just read that Ryan Flynn is heading for Wrexham on loan. Paul Anderson, Nottingham Forest Robbie Threlfall, Hereford Adam Hammill, Blackpool Miki Roque, FC Cartagena Godwin Antwi, Tranmere Jack Hobbs, Leicester David Martin, Leicester Sebastián Leto, Olympiacos Craig Lindfield, Bournemouth Andriy Voronin, Hertha Berlin What is the purpose of these loan deals? Does any of these players stand a chance of making at Liverpool's first team? I'm all for sending young players on loan and get regular matches, especially with the limitied number of reserve matches. However, when the destination of these loans are league one teams I do struggle to see them having any future at Liverpool. Is it mainly about trying to increase their sell-on value? From my point of view it also appear that in some cases these loan deals come too late. Players like Spearing and El Zhar should have, in my opinion, been sent on loan along time ago. Why is this so difficult? Are the players difficult to sell, is Rafa blocking deals, is it about money, or ?

Whilst mooching through the forum I noticed the David Dickinson thread. This set me to thinking about all the daytime TV I used to watch when we first got cable/satellite TV, most of it absolute dross, but one of my favourites was the painting show hosted by the magnificently barneted Bob Ross: He came across as the most chilled-out motherfucker on God's green earth and, even though I can't paint to save my life, I found his show to be one of the most interesting and relaxing things I've ever watched on the box. Any other Bob Ross acolytes out there?