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Bear with me, I'm down under so it's 10.45 pm and I've been drinking, BUT... At the base level all religions monotheistic, theistic and atheistic are fundamentally, for me, about the common as opposed to the individual, about helping others in order to better oneself. I don't believe that yer man Jesus rose again 2009 years ago last sunday, but I do believe that what he actually stood for was valid, he was a socialist (in my eyes) who believed that we had to work together, and cast out the moneylenders and those who preyed on the weak. Unfortunately his message was taken and distorted by those who the chance to gain power. Same with Muhammad, and no doubt Abraham and Solomon, certainly Buddhism & Hindusim have the ethos of working for the betterment of the common good and not harming others. But should we now look back to religion - not in the dogmatic form that we my or may not have been brought up with, but with the actual spirit of the figureheads. If we reject religion because of it's dogmatism, we are also at risk of rejecting the values that are valid, that can "make the world a better place". I grew up a rat catcher, moved into buddhism and atheism, although I'm atheist at heart, I believe the commmon benefit behind the true messages of all world religions can benefit the world a fuck load more than the current climate of no-one actually gives a shit, and we've fuck all to win/lose anyway other than the short term profit. The same reason TV programs are becoming "competitive" how many fucking telly programmes are about defeating your "competitors" how much do we need to be divided, and could turning back to religion with our life experience and without the dogmatism/fundamentalism, but as adults able to take what we need from these learnings as opposed to swallowing everything verbatim as the truth. Friedmanism/Thatcherism finally broke the community spirit, could/should we go back to religion to pull shit back together MOD's feel free to delete, I have been drinking, but I reckon it's an interesting question. Yours An Old Hippy

Liverpool Echo.co.uk - News - Liverpool Local News - Tributes to Liverpool-born former T&G leader Jack Jones Very, very sad news.