King Kenny 86

Simple

Fckin wait. See where we are in the league IF in CL then all out on him as we would have pretty much won our last 8 games or so to achieve it.

Break full pre season add JB and one other I am happy.

We are happy to punt cash on Darwin and Gakpo who is a raw talent, 120m for Bellingham is a bargain as could be one of the worlds best and get that back when we sell him 10 years later.

See what he posted on Instagram after LFC pulled out.

Bellingham post after "LFC pulled out"

Chin up lad.

Tony Hibbert  Josemi?

Miniature Rottweilers eh

One comment about Darwin and why he is not in the team re lack of defensive capability 

To me that's bollocks he has cleared many dangerous crosses, worked hard in front of Robbo, seeds of understanding together.

If any player was to be left out of the team because of what they can't do defensively then......( add in any players of your choice!)

We are in essence a counter attacking team, even those daft twats last week kept attacking 

I mentioned earlier in the season the lack of red arrows goals. Then we start getting a few especially the one against the bitters.

Our Pep mentioned about 3 years or so ago after draws cost us the league about playing a more patient style and that's why Thiago Sicknote was bought, but who after him? No-one 

We are and have been for years the shittest tipi tapi team around. Breaking teams down away from home has always been youth for us BUT we hardly ever conceded first and we played hard until the whistle went.

Neither of that happens now.

I can honestly say I saw this coming, expected it sadly. I have many MAN U mates wondering why the gloating was only average, because I feared this.

Madrid City and Chelsea all away. I see more shit to come.

Really quite upset 

I am well old enough to remember the teams of 86, 88, 89 then saw us fall off a cliff in 1990 (worst liverpool team ever to win the league) then relative oblivion. As you say Dave Have Klopp Have hope

YNWA

Slow humdrum and predictable.

No point showing it against city everton and utd if we just shit the bed v Bournemouth 

Really pissed off but sadly not surprised.

Spot on.

The younger players love him as much as the older ones.

Proper player coach role for him

Top pro.

Keane on sky said Utd not been that good despite results.

Too many close last minute wins.

West Ham should have done them Leicster as well.

They are frauds. Rashford covering up all their shite.

We exposed all that with brilliant ruthless relentless attacking dynamism 

They are deluded that this is a blip. They are OK but will struggle to stay in top 4. They will only if Newcastle continue to shit the bed.

Any win against them is fckin boss but this is THE win, one we can always shove down their throats.

Loved it. Bournemouth 9.0. Defeat May have thought well at least Liverpool are not at full steam now as the come to us.... oh shit.

Let's make sure it's 16 out of 18.

They all know the cull is coming.

We are playing with effort mostly but no belief, confidence or conviction 

Even Hendo is like that.

It is time to thank with all our Hearts Matip, Fabinho, Milner,  Firmino (and to a small part Ox) for all they have given us. 

Fuck Keita off 

As you say we have questions over Jones and Carvalho and a query over where Elliott is best placed.

That could be 7 or 8 leavers out of the squad, but the progress of Bajetic and Doak and Konate will aid some of that but as on the pod I agree 4 first choice players are needed in the summer 

With you on goal 1 Hendo sells himself Gomez wasn't expecting him to do that so is that fraction late coming out  still a great finish.

My overriding thought at 2.0 was fuckin get in there, followed by mmm still about 90 mins to go incl injury time....

My mate WhatsApp me from the city centre saying "this spanish lot seem very cocky". Seems they have every right!!

I believe that the tactic change when we brought Thiago on was supposed to lead to more possession  and penatration against packed defences 

Even with our famed front 3 the red arrows goals dropped off.

Elliott and Carvalho are right and left front 3.

Not saying I agree but I think medium to long term that was the plan for them

I fear the return to the shite when the "1st" team show up. Fingers crossed

When JK got it all going we were a mighty beast, we loved it when teams tried to go toe to toe it usually ended in disaster for them. Those cheating cunts down the east lancs just kept winning so hitting 95 plus points was not enough, it was draws that did for us in many of the last 5 seasons.

Couple of years they said they had to evolve and Thiago was the start. That nugget to breakdown stubborn defences and turn those draws into wins.

MAYBE that is where Carvalho and Elliot came in to make us that possession based dominant force.

But who else? The rest of the squad was based on press press work work.

Diaz is Mane light but the potential to be a real legend...

When Saudi Toon stole our motto they have literally stole our identity.

Dave on the pod constantly asks who should go? As you role through the squad the obvious names will crop up, Ox Keita, maybe fabinho, the Hendo haters (not me) but then most will pause and struggle. I hold my hands up Thiago was never for me in the prem. Thought he would slow us down that he was built for City more than us plus his age. But he has held us together most weeks.

I am putting a large chunk of this on the backroom staff, coaches , medical team etc. We had a 6 week break, most of our 7 players at the WC were not over taxed and we came out of that worse and more injuries.

We look like when Ten Hag took over at Utd. Tried to press with players totally incapable of doing what he needed, that's us at the moment.

Now he has sorted some shit out Rashford is a world beater and they are hard to beat. Do they press, not always he is pragmatic and plays on the break now and then.

City are off the pace, as has been said they are great front runners but chasing? No. That title is already in Arsenal pocket unless they capitulate.

Newcastle (hate talking about them) but recruiting Burn, Isaak, Botman, Pope and Trippier probably disappointed the fans but they are set up well and organised.

The definition of insanity is to do the same thing time and time again and expect the same result 

All those shit performances leading to Brighton.

They did change the shape but with the same personnel who does that? If you want a creative player at the top of a diamond it's not Thiago, Keita maybe, Ox possibly Curtis even.

Then sit deep and compact and play round them.

That would be something different 

Play 3 at the back 

Put Sleepy Joe right back and trent in midfield 

Those options are something a bit different not just moving Thiago from the left to a tip of a diamond then all charge forward.

Individually most of our team WALK into the top 6 in the prem. Most clubs would love Klopp (other than City) last season Arsenal would have sacked Arteta to get Klopp.

We weren't perfect last season and lack of midfield investment has hurt us but for me the slower tiki taki way we play and are being coached is and has been the biggest concern.

Finally Hat off to Adam Llalana not only did his help make us great I bet his influence on how Brighton have evolved has been key. Klopp told us that when he was on the defending part of the press at training he always found a way out of it.

Soul searching on the coaching team please Jurgen. Get us organised please.

We are right behind you.

Very ominous

Group therapy needed somewhat

Hi my name is Paul and I am a Liverpool fan of over 50 years.

My only comfort is that I am not an Evertonian......

Games over training all pro's say that.

Citeh away both at 3/4 strength proper competitive minutes under the belt.

Villa with their shit Everton reject keeper and undercooked by another 3 days to us. I expect big things there performance wise and a win.

After that it's keeping everyone healthy which this medical team seem palpably unable to do.

I can see some formation switches in the coming games until fresh legs come in January 

1 up top , 3 at the back.. . Depending on opposition and venue.

One thing for sure, great or shite, it should be interesting (note I avoided entertaining).

Small shout to Konate thought he looked top in the world cup. Also on the pod Matip Konate not the worst pairing if Shit Virg turns up.

One for Dave

Darren England reffed Norwich Watford so clearly not good enough to ref in the Prem!

Central league footy, top quality but in the days of one sub. Yes kids that one dub was a major step forward from no subs.

Now a premier league bench has more players and staff than a league 2 fixture.

On the age thing agree big 12 months but let's not lose sight of the ages of Trent, Konate, Gomez , Curtis, Harvey, Fabio,Luis, Darwin.... just need time to gel then allow Morten, Frauendorf, Mussilewski, Cannonier, Beck time to develop. 

Squad not as old as we think, just a little unbalanced on new players v old v experience 

That will come.

The crowd need to put in a full intensity 90 mins next week even if the team don't.

Agree it worries me they could destroy us.

Feels like 5 at the back close the space and pace on the counter.

But as poundland city showed yesterday the devastating inside the full back pass, a city staple and once upon a time ours.

Feels really sad that we are saying stuff like "stay in the game and await a chance to come" that's what we have become 

Still COYR thick and thin.

us or because Rangers are shit? We’ll find out on Sunday.

think we just fuckin found out....

More defensive shit show

Spot on Dave.

It's lots of small things all adding up.

The cheats down the east lancs play a high line and v teams with 10 behind the ball. Why do they get so many tap ins? Because they stretch the play really wide, because they make the opposition defend on the penalty spot not the edge of the area, their full backs spend more time on the opposition goal line than there own...

All stuff we used to do. Trent spends more time in the inside right position than overlapping....

We all know we are playing too slow and in front of the defence,  all stuff you have written about.

One last thing every week some fucker gifts a goal to the opposition keeper dribbling shit back passes....

Never against us. That little bit of luck.

Hope and pray this is the wake up call.

Now Matip back we will be more solid, how many top tackles and interception did he make once he got into his stride,

Please stay fit.

Chelsea panicked are probably going to ruin Graham Potter top coach and all round good bloke. We don't panic and we have to trust the guys to get it right 

This is one game in the group, but we need to recover, qualifying is all that matters, we are "only 5 points behind City" 32 to play, and we are in crisis?

IF we can sort it who knows... 

Agree every word.

We suddenly can't score, not a real suprise when you lose 25 a season in Mane. Therefore vital you defend well and aggressive 

Also the Ten Haag love in. As you say he was Fulham and Palace tactics and the neanderthals lapped it up

He will do the same v Citeh, ie fuck his tip tap principles for that game.

Watch them fuck up v the rest of the league trying to play from the back.

I also see what klopp meant about them coming off a 5.0 win as then Slab head Fat Shaw and Prinaldo would have started and then.....

But we were shite 

This is my instinct but I think Mo dries up every season he has been here 

It is churlish to think that as others need to step up but Mo "losing " that finish at the end of this season was not a suprise.

His numbers are off the scale and last season he carried us, but curious to see a 10 game split of his goals per season.

Good to have you back sir.

Great report as always.

Harvey scores and the attacking lads all round him. First to hug him (or very nearly first) Milner. He fckin loves Harvey, surrogate dad. What a top professional to have mentoring you.

Frightening future when Carvalho turns up in the summer.

What a time to be a red

Woodrow is at Barnsley and their best player, not that I am an expert....

Success? Decide yourself

Arsenal have previous...Sheffield Utd FA CUP a few years ago. Fat head Bruce in charge of Sheff Utd

Ended up a replayed game.

Spineless and snide cheats.