Red Mist

People from Birmingham are horrid.

Brummies are easily the worst people in the country, if not the planet.

Never a free kick

Good save Pepe. But should never have allowed them to get in that header.

The US would have us believe a bunch of Arabian cavemen managed to pull this attack off all by themselves. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Try as I might, I cannot see us winning this one away from home. We have a wretched record against the brummie cunts and McLeish has continued to improve them. A draw at best.

Good old Scholesy, can't tackle. Let's all have a jolly old laugh at the butcher of Old Trafford. Fucking wankers commentators.

Where is the "sell him" option? We should've got rid off him a long time ago. His attitude, for a Liverpool player, is simply shocking. If he had Kuyt's level of professionalism he might have made it at Liverpool, considering he's fairly talented. But he's a lazy sod who rarely took the ample opportunities he's had to perform. I'd rather we have Ngog up front than risk Babel.

David Beckham remains hopeful of playing international football again after speaking to England team manager Fabio Capello.

 

Last month Capello said the LA Galaxy midfielder was "too old" for a recall before backtracking on his decision.

"He's said if you're playing well and you're fit you can play," said Beckham.

However, 35-year-old Beckham has ruled out a return to Europe on loan therefore limiting his chances of an early England comeback.

Beckham is approaching a competitive return for his American club having been out of action for nearly six months.

 

Last month Capello said Beckham's international career was over, announcing it to the media in a television interview without speaking to the former England captain.

 

Beckham's agent immediately released a statement confirming the player's desire to carry on playing for England.

And in an embarrassing U-turn the Italian suggested last week that the midfielder could still force his way back into the squad.

"Obviously it was a surprise when Fabio Capello said I was too old," said Beckham, who has 115 caps.

 

"He spoke to me after that (television interview) and explained everything to me and it was all brushed under the carpet. At the end of the day, the manager's got a job to do and he's doing that well."

BBC Sport - Football - David Beckham still hopeful of playing for England

This is getting ridiculous now. Why doesn't Beckham get the hint? Fuck off, you're too old and too shit. Capello has ruined his reputation since becoming England manager, and this "change of heart" after the media outcry is yet another disgraceful act of his feeble management.

"Obviously it was a surprise when Fabio Capello said I was too old"... why would that be a surprise, you fucking blert? How many 35 year olds do you see playing international football? This guy will milk his England international status for every penny he can get out of sponsorship deals. He's a disgrace and it fucks me off when successive England managers, including the alleged hard case Capello, have been too scared to end Beckham's England career.

Good news, the government is finally to get to grips with the insane welfare system which for years has blighted taxpayers.

Osborne to slash welfare cuts by extra £4 bln

 

LONDON — Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne has warned a further four billion pounds in cuts will be made to Britain's "out of control" welfare budget on top of the 11 billion reduction outlined in June.

In a BBC interview late Thursday Osborne said: "People who think it's a lifestyle choice to just sit on out-of-work benefits -- that lifestyle choice is going to come to an end. The money won't be there."

 

The benefits cuts, which represent a six-percent reduction in welfare spending, will be outlined in full as part of a public spending review to be unveiled in October.

 

"There are five million people living on permanent out of work benefits. That is a tragedy for them and fiscally unsustainable for us as a country -- we can't afford it any more," Osborne added.

"Of course, people who are disabled, people who are vulnerable, people who need protection will get our protection, and more."

 

The announcement angered some Liberal Democrat MPs, who accused the Chancellor of failing to consult the Conservatives' coalition partner.

Their party leader, Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, earlier sought to calm public fears, saying cuts would not fall overnight like the "Sword of Damocles" but would be spread over four years.

Osborne's June budget set out plans to reduce the budget deficit to 37 billion pounds -- 2.1 percent of GDP -- by 2014-15.

Most government departments have been told they will face cuts of between 25 percent and 40 percent.

 

Labour's Yvette Cooper, shadow work and pensions secretary, said: "We don't know how the cuts are going to fall. But the reality is that the £11 billion of benefit cuts they've already announced are hitting the poorest, such as pensioners and the disabled, hardest -- not the work-shy.

"We really need to see the detail of these £4 billion of cuts, not just listen to the rhetoric."

No surprise that Labour are bitching about this for they introduced this appalling culture of healthy people actively refusing to work, instead preferring the taxpayer to pay for their lazy lifestyle.

Not even a contest. Tointin is a dirty looking slag. O'Brien is boring. Kara all the way.

I won't condone that post simply because I'm a 9/11 conspiracy theorist and do not believe Islamic fanatics destroyed the WTC. It was the US government that was behind the attacks all along. Al Qaeda does NOT exist, it's a fictional group fabricated by the US government to strike fear into their citizens in order to maintain control over them.

Do not believe everything the media tells you. Bin Laden's beard is also a fake.

I think he will do well. He would have learnt from his previous mistakes at Liverpool and if Lerner gives him some money, he could sign a few quality players like he did for us.

The Villa fans who oppose this are idiots, they should be grateful they managed to bring in a manager of his stature.

He's been found not guilty of taking a bribe, but guilty of bringing the game into disrepute by not reporting the bribing attempt. Banned for 6 months.

The snooker bosses have shit out of this one.

I wouldn't class Byrd as a decent fighter myself, I presume you know the reason he lost that fight so are just being facetious.

 

I reckon if the Klitschkos had been American, not nearly as many people would be calling them bums. They've destroyed anything approaching a prospect before they have really made names for themselves, see Brock, Arreola, Chambers, Johnson, Sam Peter, Sosnowski etc, therefore suddenly anyone he's beaten was shit because he has dominated the fight.

 

Even an ageing Vitali has yet to be badly hurt in a fight, a lot more than can be said of pretty much all your 90s list.

And back to the circular argument again. The 90's boys had tough competition. Klitchko has not. And I would say his face getting splattered by Lewis to the point of ending the fight would qualify as being "badly hurt".

Most over-rated boxer in history

Agreed that he's overrated, but disagree that he is not a great. He certainly is a all time great. He would've beaten both Klitchko's in his prime.

Based on what? Have you ever even seen Vitali hurt in a fight? I know he's not had great competition but it's complete guess work to say he would have struggled against the fighters you list. Wlad actually did fight Mercer and annihilated him, also think both would completely dominate Tua much like the way Lewis did and Vitali at least would handle Bowe much more harshly than the inferior Golota did.

Mercer was way, way past his prime when he took on Wlad. Like I said he can only beat those guys that are around, but Vitali's conquests are mostly bums. In fact, the only other decent boxer he fought besides Lewis, he lost too, Chris Byrd. I have not seen anything from Vitali to suggest he would have handled the big names from the 90's. And Wlad would have gotten totally destroyed.

This

 

I don't hate Haye. I can just see he's another over-rated bum, who's not even in the same league as the great Klitschko brothers.

Hardly great. Wlad has been knocked on his arse on more than a few occasions. Vitali is a tough bastard, got to give him that. But he has never been in with a great other than a fading Lewis. Not his fault, he can only beat the bums in front of him but he's nowhere near to being a great. If he was fighting in the early 90's against the likes of a young Lewis, Tyson, Holyfied, Bowe, and even the likes of Foreman, Tua, Mercer etc. he'd be totally out of his league.

Pepe having a stinker.

SWP, so fucking shit, could have easily finished the game there.

Class assist from Gerrard. And what a belter of a goal from the Swiss. Game still alive.

Can someone please tell me exactly what Gareth Barry is supposed to be good at? He's complete shite. Well and truly dodged a bullet by missing out on this overrated, overpriced pile of crap.

Tits.

Fraudley is a shithouse fighter and will be hiding throughout the whole fight. I'd be surprised if Haye knocks him out but he should win it on points.

Fucking shameful that this shit has hit 8 pages on a Liverpool FC forum. If anything it belongs in the GF. I call for a motion to close this thread and ban those who have actually gotten emotionally involved with this topic.

I don't see the point, nor did I see the point of their Norwich kit protest. The only possible way for Glazer to take any notice of fan unrest if the mancs were to boycott games in their masses. But they still sell out every home game, further lining Glazer's pockets, which renders any protest against the owners totally pointless.