Baz1969

I'm happy with progress to date under Rodgers. We are beginning to look settled and showing consistency (allbeit not enough wins) which is something that has been missing for years. We are starting look like a far more solid and competitive team now then we were last season and I'd expect us to be even better towards the end of the season - continual improvement. Style of football is lovely at times too. I think (hope!) that next season will be our best and most consistent for a long while.

Is it on TV anywhere?

Well anything he said will have been criticised. I think it's good that he's come out immediately and communicated with the fans. It's a lot more than most owners would have done.

 

No, a few million for Dempsey wouldn't have broken the structure but it sounds like they've drawn a line in the sand that they're not going to cross. None of us have crystal balls and nobody's sure 100% that what they're doing strategically will work or not. What is clear is that if we'd carried on doing what we were doing even up to a year ago we were well and truly fucked.

 

I'm really fucked off with the position we're in but I do get where Henry is at and I do get the strategy. This is a fucking disgusting "sport" thanks to the likes of Sky, one which thrives on throwing money at teams. If you've got a multisquillionaire oil baron running your club that's all well and good but for anyone else that's not sustainable.

I agree. I'm pissed off about what happened on Friday but I do trust these guys not to shaft us. They may not splash the cash as quickly as I'd like but I think they have the best of intentions. Or else I'm just naive. They are still wankers for not signing Dempsey though.

Is the little prick better than nothing? Yes - so we should bring him back because the alternative is nothing.

Look fool our primary objective is to win the league , and qualify for the european cup . Failing that , do well enough in the league to qualify for the european cup.

4th place sometimes and rarely means you have to be content with the europa league if another english team wins the champs league , mostly it gives you a crack at the champs league.

 

Trips to wmbley are always nice , but always come 2nd to the league and europe.

 

Fact.

Agree - to seriously challenge for the league usually takes a few years of being consistent and competitive in the league first. Cup competitions are nice distraction and its nice to win one but I have zero interest in them if our league form is shite. I would take 4th next year instead of any cup as it demonstrates a good level of consistency and competitiveness which can then be built on. Would love a cup too but not instead.

The minimum requrement for me is that we are consistent and competitive in the league with at least a top 6 finish. A cup win in addition would be a welcome bonus but our league form is top priority. I would rather a good consistent league performance finishing 6th, than win any or all of the cup competitions we're in.

The minimum requirement is that we regain some consistency and become competitive. We must be seriously challenging for a top 5 spot. Even if we dont finish in the top 5 I wont be too disappointed so long as we've been serious challengers - this would be a huge improvement. Get the winning mentality back and stop losing to no mark teams.

Well I don't see any reason to change my mind, I think he deserves another season. I also believe the powers that be will think the same. Thankfully this is a decision that none of us can make.

My heart says give him another season but my head says no. The number one priority for whoever is manager next season has to be consistency and competitivness in the PL. Minimum required is that we must be seriously challenging for a top 4 spot all season. If we do that and maybe win or do well in cups I'll be relatively happy. A cup win by itself (like this season) is not good enough. We need to move on from being a cup team and always papering over the cracks. Consistency and competitivness in the league have to be no.1 target.

If we only lose by two goals we'll have done well. We are woeful, dreadful.

Spearing, Henderson and Downing should never wear the shirt again. Likewise Carroll and Adam - all donkeys. Daglish should be sacked straight after the match. He is clueless, could'nt spot a good player if his life depended on it and has no idea how to set up a team. We are worse now than when Woy was in charge..going backwards yet again despite spending 100M on players. Joke.

Looking forward to the game but not the performance or the result....we'll contain them for 70 mins and lose 3-1.

Kenny should be sacked now - totally clueless. We are a bigger embarrassment now then when Woy was in charge. Shocking.

Why is Carragher playing? Just why? My head dropped the minute I seen his name on the teamsheet.

 

Kenny will lose his job behind his persistence in Carragher.

Carradonk couldnt get in the team for months - why is he still there now that Agger is back?

If (when) we lose today Kenny has to get the bullet and take the donkeys he signed with him. Agger at left back, hendo on the left, Jose and bellamy on the bench. Clueless.

What happens if its a draw today? Is there extra time or straight to replay in next week or two? Blue slime will win today unfortunately...by one goal I think.

Same shit different season. We are an embarrassment. Kenny should be sacked (along with Carroll, Downing and Adam) if we lose this match and that gives us time to get a new manager in before pre season. Personally I'd go for Pellegrini.

Delighted if this is true - hopefully he'll be sold off for scrap in the summer.

I thought the piece was bang-on. Sometimes the truth hurts. But the facts are there, we have been garbage in the PL this year. I don`t know how being 3 points in front of Swansea can be classed as success with the amount of money we have spent and the amount Swansea have spent. It`s pretty embarrassing really. It seems the players can only turn it on against the top 6 teams (and Everton), which is totally unprofessional to say the least. We have to face it that we are not going to sign any top class players unless we are in the CL. To get in the CL you need a team of top cleass players. Catch 22. Top class players are not going to come to Liverpool after winning the CC and possibly the F.C cup. That is FACT.

 

Remember that this season we had no Euopean football to "distract" us in the PL and claim "fatigue", so what the hell is it going to be like next season in the PL when we are playing the Europa league?

Well said.

Some much needed words of reason amongst the sensationlist nonsense that is spouted on here so much.

Success in the cups will not satisfy the fans for very long - we've been down this road before with Dr Hou. Solid consistency in the league is what we badly need - that must be the target above all else at the moment. Personally if I had to choose which Id prefare for this and next season, I'd take finishing fourth over a cup. We've been inconsistent for most of the last 15/20yrs now and the few cups we've won along the way (fantastic as they were) have just papered over the big problem. Kenny will be in charge for next season but if things are not going well ie we're not seriously challenging for the top 4 by Xmas then the club must act. If we bury our heads in the sand and ignore reality as we did with Dr Hou and Rafa, we'll start to go backwards. As painful as it would be to see the King sacked/moved upstairs, it would be more painful to have to watch us continue to struggle to finish in the top 6 or 7. I'm sure theres a lot of great work being done behind the scenes to clean up after Hicks & Gillett but results on the pitch in the league are what they will be judged on. Produce or move on Kenny.

As long as Suarez starts I dont care who else plays. I want to see him score, get mobbed by the rest of the team and listen to the crowd go wild. They should make him captain for the day. Fuck you Ferguson.

Apologies if this has been posted already

Red devil can be Kenny’s Cantona

By Ken Early

Monday, February 13, 2012

The multiple apologies issued by Liverpool FC employees on Sunday must have come as a relief to the majority of the club’s fans.

In the end, was saying sorry really so hard?

The reaction to Luis Suarez’s refusal to shake hands with Patrice Evra was predictable, with the Sunday papers resembling a competition between correspondents to see who could condemn Suarez and Liverpool in the most strident terms. The Sunday Times probably took the honours by describing the "loathsome" Suarez as "South America’s greatest charmer since General Pinochet".

Footballers, even ones who refuse handshakes, are rarely compared with mass-murdering dictators. Suarez’s problem was that having snubbed Evra, he had effectively declared open season on himself, and had the football media moving against him in pack mode, sicked on to him by Alex Ferguson.

Ferguson’s attack on Suarez after the game was extraordinary. It was impossible to recall him excoriating an individual opposition player in such terms: a disgrace to his club who should never play for them again.

Of course, when Ferguson was faced with a dilemma similar to the one Kenny Dalglish faces now, his attitude was very different.

By comparison with Eric Cantona, Luis Suarez is a model professional. He came to England for a huge fee from a big club where he had become captain after a brilliant career. When Cantona arrived in English football it was effectively as a disciplinary refugee from France. He had never stayed out of trouble long enough to build a career with any French club. He fought with teammates, attacked referees and responded to a disciplinary procedure by walking up to each member of the disciplinary panel to insult them individually.

Cantona’s reputation at that stage was even worse than Suarez’s after his ban for biting an opponent, and he proceeded to burnish his legend by collecting a series of spectacular red cards. When Cantona got away with a kick at the head of a Norwich City player in 1994, Jimmy Hill called the foul "despicable and villainous". Ferguson’s response was to call Hill a "prat", and accuse the BBC of having an anti-United agenda (a curious form of paranoia that was echoed by Dalglish over the weekend, with his suggestion that Sky’s 24-hour news coverage had contributed to the Suarez problem).

In the end Cantona blew up at Selhurst Park, committing an unprecedented assault on a spectator, to near-universal media condemnation. It was a disgraceful act that brought shame on his club and probably cost his side the double that season, just as Ferguson speculates Suarez has cost Liverpool a European place this time.

Yet Ferguson did not respond, as he now urges Liverpool to respond, by kicking the wretched wrongdoer out of his club. Had he done so, nobody would have questioned it, the media would have praised his toughness, and the fans would have reluctantly accepted that their hero had it coming: look at his record.

Instead, drawing deep on reserves of patience, trust and understanding, Ferguson stood by Cantona, believed in his human potential, and was repaid with renewed brilliance, given greater intensity by the player’s respect and gratitude. A man the world had written off as incorrigible proved he was a reformed figure. He was never sent off again.

Maybe Ferguson has forgotten all that, or more likely he hopes Dalglish has. While fulminating at Suarez and roaring on the mob of those eager to see the Uruguayan driven out of English football may give him some pleasure, deep down Ferguson knows Dalglish would have to be a prat to listen.

Read more: Red devil can be Kenny’s Cantona | Irish Examiner

We wont finish higher than 6th at best - and I reckon we'll lose another 3 and draw at least 4 or 5 of the remaining games :(

Humiliating. That cunt ferguson is pissing himself laughing at us again.

He was right to apologise but once again the manc cunts are laughing at us. This has/could totally derail whats left of our season. I hope Suarez is in the team next game.

Anyone in and around the city centre this evening with a half hour to kill,The legend that is John Barnes is rumoured to be in Dublin and is rumoured to be having dinner in Lotts bar in liffey street .Its also rumoured that he will be hanging around for a little while afterwards to pose for pictures /sign shirts etc .

 

He rumoured to be there from 5 till 6:30pm

Thats a lot of rumours.

Don't suppose its on the box?