anyone else think he is vastly overrated and not get the fuss about him?
sure he is a decent defender, but nowhere near this Franco Baresi like world class player people say he would've been had he stayed fit and no way should he start for England over Carra or go to a world cup when he can barely even train (surely that sort of treatment should be reserved for the likes of Stevie and Rooney) and i dont think he should even be in the Tottenham starting line up when Woodgate is fit.
On top of all that he seems a bit of a cunt as well, just needed something to talk about other than our depressing club