Fabio

Would.

 

without hesitation

House is stocked with slimming world shite

 

Now my life begins miserably

Who stabbed who?

Alfie stabbed the pope

 

Ghastly business

Load of shite.

 

Enrique is clearly their next manager.

 

Club of that stature, looking to win back the fans would not hire an assistant manager as their primary target.

We should just look at any young player that Chelsea got shut of over the past ten years and sign them.

Resign borini!

 

Knew he wasn't given a fair crack

Load of fucking shite from minute one. That poor kid having his last few weeks become an absolute circus thanks to cretins and vultures.

 

Poor fucker. Least he can rest now

You'd have to be fucking stupid to have your fingers in a fundraising pie meant for your ill child's 'diagnosis and treatment.'

He doesn't look like he'd be Stephen hawking though does he

Likely commulative and part of the drip drip, state healthcare can’t be trusted shite, aimed at gradually warping trust in our system. Completely uncoincidentally beneficial to a select group of billionaires, aiming to profit through private healthcare companies’ fingers getting into the NHS pie.

 

Hence the orange gibbon wanting to make political capital out of that Charlie Gard lad recently, when it’s hard to believe he’d give the slightest fuck if fringe members of his own extended family were unwell, let alone a little lad all the way across the pond.

Yup. All the current right wing American bellends loving the fact that state funded healthcare is "killing" a kid.

 

I don't know what worse, thick cunts who don't know better, or people twisting for their own political agenda

Yeah, because governments and authorities have historically done a great job of protecting the poor and the weak. *shakes head*

We can all provide examples of neglectful parents too

 

Big Joey Fritzl defo had best interests of his kids at heart

 

And besides, this isn't the government. It's an autonomous hospital who trusts it's medical staff

So they're gonna be under police guard now too

Whilst I echo the sentiments about letting Alfie home if the parents could be trusted, let's be brutally honest, dad's going to try and get him to Italy, probably with some ill-conceived help from the CLC and the more rabid elements of the Army. I can see this ending badly with a stand-off at an airport or airfield somewhere.

Waiting for the air ambulance

 

 

Agree with every word of this post right up until this part.

 

I genuinely find it difficult to believe that people think that a hospital should have more say in what happens to a child than his/her parents. Do you have kids? How could anyone think that?

 

To be clear, I think it's clear from what is publicly known that poor Alfie is for all intents and purposes already brain-dead and has no hope for recovery. But it should 100% be the parents' choice whether to continue treatment or not, not a doctor's or a hospital's or a court's. As you say, if there's evidence that they are willfully ignoring how traumatic a flight would be or that they're going to cause him more pain/suffering, then that could change things. However, it seems that they are aware of the risks, aware that the odds are long, and they have chosen to move him anyway. In which case, it's their choice, in my book. Parents get to decide what happens to their children, period, unless they're intentionally putting him in harm's way (in which case the government should begin proceedings to terminate their parental rights).

 

By the way, if he is brain-dead with no chance for recovery, and he doesn't feel any pain, then what would be the harm in letting him take a flight or have a tracheotomy? That's a separate issue to the main problem, but I haven't seen it explained. He surely won't feel anything that happens to him from here on out, no?

I've got 2 kids, one is under alder hey for a genetic condition.

 

Parents are thick and emotional. I know I am. But that's why sometimes the decision needs to be taken out their hands. They're not acting in the best interests of the child, they're acting in whay they believe the best interests of the child.

 

And they don't know he doesn't feel pain. He could. He could be in constant agony for all we know. Problem is, he wouldn't be able to tell us.

 

Seizure and aspiration is a lot worse way to go than organ shutdown.

Nope

Dair enough then. Thought it was close, especially comparing appearances. I thought ox'd had a good debut season, and improved as the season went on.

In fairness, it has worked before, but that was with cancer, not brain death.

Yeah cancer there's research and stuff so can't argue with it there

 

Here they've just thought is a cure all. 2+2=5

Couldn't really care less. Liverpool needed to sign two good midfielders to play alongside Kieta last week and that's still the case today.

 

The injury will hurt our squad depth but he offers absolutely fuck all more than Wijnaldum, whose first season at the club was miles ahead of anything we've seen from oxocube.

Hasn't ox scored more goals and got more assists this year that ginis first year?

The father has just been on LBC saying he thinks he can wake up with the right treatment.

He needs to get a fucking grip

All allegedly of course

The father is now making noises to suggest he's coming round to accepting the reality of the situation and that Italy won't happen and is saying he wants to take his son home.

 

That should absolutely be allowed to happen and should be facilitated as soon as possible.

 

Although, I'd definitely be wanting round the clock police monitoring to ensure that there is no attempt to abscond with the child.

Agreed. If the family can be trusted.

 

Also, interesting snippet I heard today. Apparently few months ago the mum was giving him cannabis oil and she was barred from seeing him for a bit.

 

Now I know it hasn't got the THC in....but did they not think that maybe it's not wise to give a toddler some medication that could interact with other meds?

Child is the priority, not the parents

 

That's true in any case, ever surely?

 

In this case the parents want to fly him to another palliative team, that will give him a tracheostomy

 

Main issues for the hospital to consider

 

1) is the flight going to be traumatic for the child. No certainties how all this will play out when pressures changes in flight

 

2) the care the other hospital offer, will it improve his life? Arguably no, as they're introducing another area which could be an infection risk (i.e. the tracheostomy).

 

If alder hey believe that transfer will cause more harm than good, then they shouldn't agree to the transfer.

In the scenario I set forth the medical team does that.

 

Medical team A says it's not in the child's best interests.

Medical team B disagrees, so they take it forward, at their expense.

Which is fair enough, providing they have the evidence and resources to show improvements could happen

 

But all they've suggested is a tracheostomy, which dramatically increases the likelihood of infection and aspiration

 

If anything they're more eager to kill him

 

Der merderers

I'd be all for giving the shop in BG grief.

 

The meal deal offer is wank and they completely overcharge for it.

 

Plus, you can only get Pepsi/Tango/other cheap shite that you know costs about 50p elsewhere.

 

Coffee Republic's alright like.

Yeah the WRVS can get burned down like

Some of the protesters have come round the corner to our hospital and given the staff grief. Calling them murderers

 

Some offering to pay money for oxygen masks and tubing. We're now on lockdown....

 

The Tesco in old swan has had its defib robbed.

 

Fucking through the looking glass here lads.

Talking of funny

This is still the main pic on tapatalk for this page.

Literally the only reason I came in here

High Court appear to rule out transfer to Rome, but have asked Alder Hey to consider allowing the child to be taken home.

 

That seems a fairly sensible compromise. But, is dependant on the parents abandoning the Rome/miracle cure fallacy.

If the parents could be trusted not to do anything daft (like try and drive him to the Vatican), i have no issues at all.

At the end of the day, 80% of his brain has turned to mush. There's no coming back from that.

Could always work in politics?