BookableOffense

That list is aload of shit.

 

1. Beckham - Hmm, nobody with a footballing brain overrates this lad. Excellent passer of a football and from dead ball situations. Its the fact he whored himself to the media so much that makes him highly overrated so yeah I'll agree here.

2. Ibrahimovic - Yep, fair enough good choice.

3. Shevchenko - Yeah fair enough except nobody rates him anymore.

4. Obi Mikel - Everyone knows he's shit now. Not worth even a fraction of his transfer fee. I'll agree.

5. Owen - Again, playing for a small club like Newcastle, I don't think anybody rates him anymore(and we certainly didn't rate him enough to pay 16 or 12 million for him).

6. Podolski - Had a decent world cup, don't really know anybody whos rated him highly since the World Cup in 2006.

7. Ballack - No, he had an excellent season last year, pulled the Chavs back from the dead in alot of games.

8. Lampard - I'll agree but only because of the hatred I have for the fat cunt

9. Totti - Probably would look better if he had left Roma, big fish small pond, hard to tell how good he'd play in a world class team.

10. Raul - 18 goals in La Liga last season doesn't exactly tell me he's past it or over rated.

 

4 Chelski players on the list? It smacks of bias to be fair. Where's Rooney? Rio Ferdinand? Fuck sake if Cronaldo if you buy into the "Best Player in the World" hype. Dida? What about Arteta, highly overrated by them twats. Eto'o who has been poor for a while now.

 

So many players come to mind. But most of them aren't on that list.

I think I agree with all of that--especially why Rooney is not on there--except for Ballack. I think he's a fine player, and you're right he is a big reason why the Chavs didn't fall to pieces in a number of situations last season, but the video gives a good reason. Best German not best World. He's overpaid and prolly overrated too.

I recently got my American passport (last march :thumbup: ... I think :ermm:) and I think the best analogy I can make here is that MLS is to top flight football what a perennial mid-table-at-best team is to our venerable club...

They can work very hard and improve (relative to their own position) by leaps and bounds and still be miles and miles away...I've never been to an MLS game in person, but every so often when there's nothing on I'll catch a game. Occasionally they're interesting and surprisingly good, but mostly I'm shouting at the tube (as they say here) because they couldn't put together two good passes. They're generally superb athletes, but not true footballers. Organize them, they can compete, but they'll always lack that final ball, so to speak.

These American fellows in the pub would've been better off to argue the more humble point: Brian McBride. Solid player, tough as nails, good man, seemed like he always kept it as simple as he could... The best American qualities.

However, if the cowboy country ever did suddenly care for football, I do believe their worst qualities would seep into the game. That's my experience in American literature and culture at least. Odds against them, they're rather an admirable people. Give them half a decent start, they get sloppy (not necessarily lazy) and seem to lose focus. However, if you ever do happen to find a bit of "pick-up soccer" in a park, say, you're liable to be harassed from, cliche I know, large, ungainly men in pickup trucks for being a "soccer playing faggot and a pussy." Unless you happen to be from South or Central America, in which case your choice of football is accepted, but they cut right to the chase in attacking their political status and ethnicity.

Strange country. Fascinating country in many ways--not so much in their football. Simple, sloppy, but not altogether hopeless, I suppose. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to my first chance to see our new boy alongside Torres up front.

Really gets to me that people think Alonso has been off the boil for a while now. For the majority of games last season, certainly the games I was at, he was his usual self. Dictating the tempo of play from the back, always wanting the ball and always trying to get us moving. He had a few bad games but if Alonso is allowed freedom, he's a fantastic attacking force.

I'd have to agree with that. While I can certainly see bringing in Barry as a good step for us, I don't think it's 100% necessary--I was willing to see us part with 15M or even 16M for Barry, and let Alonso go at a similar price, because I felt Alonso still did great things for a team, and that there would be things he could do that Barry could not. I don't Barry has that same ability to, as RedKnight said, dictate tempo. I think Barry's a guy who offers a bit more quickness on the ball (though, again, I disagree with Xabi not being 'mobile' enough), he can play something between Gerrard and Masch, as he gets forward well and he's clearly a better holding player than Xabi, and he gives something from set pieces--which is the real kicker for me--but that, while he's not an awful passer of the ball, we lose something very special there. Why is there such a discrepancy in the prices of these two players? Well, that's economics for you, but I see them as being roughly (in terms of what they offer to our immediate and overall team play, not any hypothetical other) equal. Xabi has still been a very valuable member of this team. End of.

Your trying to play the victim now? :lol::lol::lol:

 

You've been abusing me on here for the past few months and when you get a bit back you start crying, treat others as you would like to be treated.

does this extend to the mean things you say about everyone wearing a red jersey except for Fernando Torres and Xabi Alonso?

It's obviously a split between Ronaldo and Torres but I think Torres should get it. He's had more to do this year, played in a less attractive team with less talented players around him and still shone.

Now there's some says a woman or a man who likes men ought to know better than you or I, but the likes of Utd's front line is pretty ugly. Rooney and Tevez are downright ugly fuckers--don't take much to tell. How about our new right back? If 90% of featured YouTube clips are pop-ish music and still shots of him stretching on the pitch, most likely he's got a cult of little girls following him. Not to mention our manager's dashing goatee (at least he doesn't have a blue and/or purple nose). We've also just added Keane, who if you say is not good enough looking, how about we just let it slide based on his bird alone? Reina > that scarecrow of a Van der Sar, on charisma alone. Camerero? Now Dirk Kuyt...well, XabiD will no doubt be pleased to point out no amount of hard work can make up for not being pretty enough a man, but that's the only weak link I can see.

Clearly Liverpool are the more attractive team.

Carragher at right back would be a disgrace.

...breaking the golden rule, I know, but I can't let this one go: Carra in Liverpool Red with any number on his back is never a disgrace. Not ever. Never. Period.

Deco has magnificient technique. Anyone who says otherwise, is talking shite.

All honesty I thought his play was on a higher plane than Ronaldinho the year they won the CL. However, he is a bit of a sulker. The Liverpool Way demands total decimation of the opposition's will to win--that means both excellent technique and immense mental fortitude.

On to more pressing matters: this Moutinho fellow may not be the world beater he's been talked up to be, but I think it is evident that he's not the usual Everton signing. More than likely, all this talk is just nonsense meant to give the shite something to sit smug and pretty on for a while, until the transfer season ends, at which point the almost-signing of this player becomes a scapegoat for the failed challenge of a top-4 place. However, should the whims of the Great Magnet favor the shite this time, I don't like the trend--even if his play never surpasses mediocre. Therefore, let us hope it's all a smoke screen for a maneuver that will land the rights to the young, incarcerated Joey Barton. It'd make sense--Keegan's been talking him up.

In other news: I'd humbly like to suggest we sign every great player. This involves "enlightening" our *esteemed* owners. Once they've seen the light (by whatever means necessary) we can put forth the funds to successfully clone Fernando Torres, the Mascher and other vital players. Two Rafas couldn't hurt either. One could stand in the technical area, the other could sit.

Oh, and let's hope this is also the year that karma finally catches up with the old bluenose: the early signs are good, with his star-cunt openly flirting with Calderon.

:wallbutt: why not making prime minister while were at it

Obama's running mate hasn't been announced. Perhaps the Obama campaign will attempt to appeal to the Dutch-American vote...

Aristotle Plato Socrates Epicurus

They beat Ze Germans, after all.

I'd have taken the chance whilst the old bastard was still at Chelsea to dress as Jose Arrogantio for press conferences. It's still not too late for Rafa to come out to talk to the media with a big purple nose is it? Maybe someone could suggest it to him?

Seems a bit of a moaner aswell.

That would be my guess as to why we were not in for him. The recent Berbatov/Kuyt debate has focused exclusively on talent, but I've heard more than once Rafa describing players he wants as having a 'winning mentality.'

And I'm all for that. Put together a team of talented cunts, they can win. Example: Chavs, Mancs of recent years. They won't live in the history books though, not next to other teams. You put together a talented team of dedicated players, you build a machine, a monster. It isn't always the trophys you win, but how you do it as well that makes it worth all the while.

So I say, let this twat find a home amongst his kind at West Ham, while we build a squad that will put the phrase "the Liverpool Way," back in the fat idiot-mouths of every so-called pundit in the world.

Dear Martin / Randy

 

Re Gaz Baz

 

Grease my weasel.

 

Thanks

 

Rafa

Well said. The only way to deal with MON.

I think if I were to go to confession, I'd have to admit my dirtiest little secret is that I came to like Roy Keane as a player. The more despicable he became, the greater my admiration grew--when he'd shaved off all his hair, etc...

I also can't help but hope in the abstract he does well at Sunderland. I can't really condone the way he spoke out on old Ronaldo...but I sure can't call him wrong.

Frustrating man.

Is that how you feel after sex dude??

 

LOL

FACT: People who use LOL: Not that good in bed. :no

I really like him. He's the kind of player who would get booted in his face and be annoyed that he had to go off to get the five inch gash sewn up. He is the player that John Terry pretends to be.

Correct.

Parry cancelled a meeting with Staff at the Academy today,apparently he was deep in talks regarding potential Transfer Targets.

Sure you heard that right? My guess is that the meeting was cancelled because he had his mobile off and no one could get in touch with him.

My worrying guess is that we will see Aurelio a lot in left midfield.

That's a worry??? Erm...problem's been getting the fella in games consistently.

When he's gone down our back 4 have looked less settled, as he's good on the ball and a decent passer. Him and Agger gone left us a little high and dry at times. A fine player when healthy--I welcome seeing him many times this coming season.

I'm not sure why, but it surprised me to see Rashid among those opposed. I guess I didn't expect him to be against it for some reason. He's been rather quiet about it though.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not among those who think his comments somehow diminish the overall worth of the forum. Sometimes he makes a good point--usually it's got something to do with a young Lyon talent or a Portuguese winger, but hey, that's his cup of tea. I've taken shit for dreaming of a team of Carraghers, that's my cup of tea.

More to the point: I think it'd be dead wrong for the club to tell a player he couldn't take the opportunity. A lot of footballers really do give a shit about their country, and consider it a great opportunity and a fantastic experience--I think it's a shame to discourage a man from playing football in pursuit of his passion. That's the reason we love the game after all, isn't it? Or are we just impressed with the spectacular amount of money the Leagues make?

10 quid says he actually typed all that out instead of using cut and paste.

It's the People's Way.

Mascherano. Total mental and physical domination of any opponent, whether they be a the likes of Birmingham, or a more civilized team, such as a pack of rabid wolves.

Judging by the fact we're all Liverpool supporters, the best answer seems like we all like to see our teams play The Liverpool Way. Talent and manufactured ability aren't the questions here: we can assume of our players they are both talented and doing their utmost to manufacture whatever ability their talent doesn't give them. We like watching total team effort, smart play and good-hearted players enjoying themselves whilst we stomp all opposition.

Personally, I'd like to see a bit of width to the team, but the thing I love about Rafa is that even if we don't get forward as much as we could, or play that kind of false-promises-almost-attacking-football that Barca exhibited this year, our teams always seem to be in control, which allows us to vastly overachieve, especially in the CL. Look at the comparative talent levels of the teams we beat. That's what I like to see. XI working with singlemindedness and good team understanding.

Fuck the Mancs too. That's an important part of basic footballing philosophy.

I've never rated him so I'm pleased that with the loans etc we'll have made a good whack out of him.

 

He reminds me of Richard Wright when he was younger in that he's an average shot-stopper who doesn't command his area but has been hyped beyond all recognition for being young and English. It's just a shame we didn't sell him to the blueshite so we could listen to them boasting about having England's future number one while he was gifting goals every week.

Perhaps it isn't too late...

Where he's talking about five centre-backs, who is considered our fifth choice?

Was wondering that myself. It's still early[ish] morning here, and I worried for a minute I'd had a total lapse of mind something akin to when the horse breaks its leg and everybody knows the right thing to do is put him out of his misery.

After a cup of coffee and a few more minutes mindlessly staring at my desk, my guess was Hobbs, but is he ready yet? It'd be great news if he was, he seems to be a young man with a great deal of poise--which is a quality not lacking in our two older CB's. And if Rafa says the lad's ready, his judgement of defensive talent has proven excellent.

Hyypia was immense this past season. His lack of pace always looked to mean he'd grow old gracefully, but I never imagined him doing this well. Truly, "Legend" is the appropriate term. You knew when he lashed home the goal against Juve that you'd be telling your grandkids about it someday, and the way he played last season, it's not out of the question that the legend is done growing.

You shouldn't expect your attacking players to run around like Mascherano or Gattuso like many on here and Rafa seem to think, if so they may not have enough energy to do what they do best in the attacking third. Obviously you get the exception to the rule like Torres and Rush and Dalglish as you mentioned. However when looking at an attacking player you should always look at what they bring in an attacking sense not how many yards they run, otherwise you will get a team full of Kuyts.

Idiocy. Your argument dismisses those three as exceptions? And hinges on the premise that a team of Kuyts is the only other option excepting a team of Berbatovs??? You yourself established first that players like Gattuso and Mascherano are effective because they work hard. So your Kuyt example really should only apply to goalscorrers here. I agree one needs poise, touch and patience in front of goal, but in the modern game that's not enough to get it done anymore. You need to be poised and hardworking. End of it. Any other argument attempts to justify the lazy athlete, which is: idiocy.

And Kewell has fucked off.

It'll be like a whole new player having him gone.

We should sign Scott Alexander.

Is Jason Alexander available as well? That's a signing that'd no doubt please George Costanza.