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Certificate Of Arse?

ACL injuries that require an op are usually 6 months out and not 4.

Now this is a miracle

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Babies sleep better when they feel safer i.e. their mother next to them. Once they get used to that.........

We let our daughter sleep in our bed, but have not repeated the same with our son.

Apparently very common that kids do that. House had been searched before too.

Found alive! Was at home in the attic lol

The boy was apparently in a "basket" attached to the balloon. Said basket was not attached when the balloon landed.

Congrats. Be there for your gf throughout the pregnancy and also for the birth.

Fucking unbelievable stuff. Hoping against hope that the kid is hiding somewhere.

Was a very good player for us over the last 2.5 years. Wish him all the best even though choosing to go back to a club that barely gave him a chance last time around is a bit baffling.

Rafa probably had 24 DVDs on Dossena before he signed him.

Not featuring against Thailand today.........

Italian media picking up on the Inter link. They claim that Mourinho wants a midfield pairing of Alonso-Cambiasso but would have to sell the likes of Vieira, Mancini and others to finance the deal.

Francesco Totti. Once asked whether he believed in the saying "Carpe Diem" (sieze the day/moment in Latin) to which he answered "I am sorry but I do not speak English".

Best let the results of an investigation be released before we blame maintenance/human error/weather/Howard Webb etc. for the crash. I am pretty confident that we will know what happened in the very near future.

Interesting. If an electrical fault had caused an explosion, surviveability of the airplane is perfectly possible. If a structural weakness was already there, who knows?

Could well be. So many things that could have caused it. Another one could be icing blocking some probes and causing the aircraft displays to display erroneous info.

More and more info is coming out. Apparently one of the pilots sent a message to Air France stating that they were flying through an area of intense CBs some 4-5 mins before the failure messages started.

Iwas waiting for this one to come out. The fact that there may be serious design faults in Airbus's will be ignored. A lot of current production model Airbus's have crashed, often young airplanes. Mainly A320 family.

I have flown them for over 9yrs now, most of them new planes. No issues whatsoever. Airbus planes are as safe as any other planes. Also the multiple failures reported could be a result of an electrical fault, temporary loss of instrumentation due turbulence and/or lightning etc.

If you visit PPRUNE you will read that claim. Do not know if it has been verified but the people claiming it seemed well in the know. Even if true it could not have been of any importance in the incident.

I've flown though that part of the world on various Boeings, and bounced up and down like a fucking yo yo. Scared the shit out of me but I'm still here.

 

As Agt Provocateur says, a modern jet can (should) cope. If the forecasts were that bad, it shouldn't have taken off.

Forecasts are always accurate are they? Also did you bounce up and down inside thunderstorm cells or whilst dodging them? The area is very turbulent due to the trade winds and turbulence is often experienced there. However no commercial jet will fly through a cell knowingly, especially one of that size.

Irrespective of this, severe turbulence normally sees a plane drop 2000-4000 foot rapidly and the usual probelms turbulence brings. It should not bring a plane down 35,000 foot straight into the sea.

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Normally? Severe turbulence has no normal way of happening. Planes rarely fall 2,000-4,000ft rapidly in turbulence. Also a drop of 2-4000ft is not the worst thing that can happen. Being bumped up, then down, then up, down again is what will cause severe stress on the airframe. It will trip the autopilot, it will make the aircraft lose certain protections, it can disorient the pilots. If that is then coupled with a lightning strike that blanks the instruments even temporarily......

 

If the aircraft ends up stalling, a wing breaks off etc. then it is a loooong way down. Never happened so far but there is always a first. Everything aligned to make something happen. May not have happened this time around too and even if it did there are still other things that have to be explained and studied. For example I've read that this same aircraft was once involved in a ground collision with an A320. If an in-flight break up is confirmed rest assured that that area of the plane will be under scrutiny.

 

Also such severe weather is usually avoided so there would have had to be some reason as to why they flew into it/so close to it etc.

Totally disagree. We live in an age where a storm shouldn't bring down a commercial jet. Let alone probably the second most advanced flying.

No plane, even when tested flies into a thunderstorm the size of the ones found in the ITCZ. We live in an age where nature still reigns supreme despite all our advances.

Air France have just announced that the aircraft suffered 'multiple technical failures'.

 

It was only four years old FFS. I genuinely think Airbus's have serious safety issues.

Based on what? It was the first ever A330 loss in commercial aviation. Multiple technical failures are common in severe turbulence encounters so aircraft type is irrelevant in this case.

I remain open minded about the cause of the crash personally because lightning shouldn't bring any plane down, let alone an airbus. It is one of the most advanced planes flying today. Unless it has encountered some a truly devastating storm (not unheard of, even at that altitude but still highly unlikely for me) then it should just have experienced a bit of turbulance.

 

 

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They were flying at 35000ft. The max such a commercial aircraft flies is in the region of 41000ft. Storms round the equator at times top 50000ft and are massive. Entering one would see one experience severe turbulence and not just a bit.

I've been on planes that have suffered lightning strikes many times - the plane is a Farraday cage so it would be unaffected unless there was a pre-existing fault in the skin/airframe or it was what has become known as 'mega-lightning' - many times more powerful than that normally encountered.

Not entirely correct. The lightning in itself will not make the airplane crash but it can sure as hell cause an electrical surge and damage instrumentation and other things. That could make the aircraft unflyable.

My Dad is an Arsenal fan and I still remember us watching the 1989 game on TV and me already on my feet waving my scarf when Thomas broke through. Was shattered that day and for a few days after that.

In recent years I think that home defeat against Coventry in 1997 has to be a big one. Not a cup final but a game that could have seen us win a league back then had we won it.