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I really really really really REALLY hate that cunt. He is on the Sunday Goals thing on Sky and I was waiting to see his support for Hodgson, but was very surprised what I say. Basically he hinted that they job was too big for Hodgson. He said that Roy played for the draw at Fulham and has taken that way to Liverpool instead of going all out to win home and away. Colour me surprised. He's still a prize cunt though.

I had my doubts, those doubts are now confirmed usually i write a long, waffling, self-righteous critique full of hyperbole but you know what, they aren't even worthy of that they have let the fans down, they have let the club down, they have let the manager down these guys ain't going to take us back to where we belong, that much is clear the superfans will come on and say "well dempsey was never good enough..." "but we signed this guy...." but we have two forwards and neither of them are out and out strikers, so the truth is we don't have an out and out striker at the club we have bought about 4/5 and let go about 10/12 and of course all this while we want to make the leap to CL tom werner said we could compete with anybody in the transfer market, that is his "spade in the ground" comment - destined to haunt him now as we slowly realise we are owned by yet more yank bullshitters oh and speaking of spades in the ground, those clowns still have yet to even make a decision on a stadium, never mind start the actual work so another season in mid-table it is then, thank you fsg, than you ayre, you clueless useless morons - switching strategies and plans every five minutes and spin, spin and more spin to the fans would a general manager have been as incompetent as ayre during this last few days? the man i feel most sorry for is rodgers - he has obviously been lied to and misled so another season wasted and more wasters letting the club down, hope the can lvie with themselves

Is LFC cursed?? What needs to happen for LFC to re-emerge from the valley of mediocrity it has been languishing in since 1991?? LFC is still the most successful club in the country yet successive managers have failed to put LFC back on top where it belongs... What's missing? Why can't they get it right?

Boss if true:

just because i'm paranoid, that doesn't mean that they're not out for world domination:- construction of the death star continues UEFA give Gill power to punish United's rivals... if they fall foul of financial fair play By Ian Ladyman PUBLISHED: 23:00, 17 June 2013 | UPDATED: 00:47, 18 June 2013 Former M********* U***** chief executive David Gill has been handed power by UEFA to recommend bans on clubs such as rivals M********* sChity and Chavski, who may find themselves in breach of new European Financial Fair Play rules. Having stepped down from his post at Old Toilet at the end of last season to become a UEFA executive member, Gill has now been appointed chairman of the governing body’s extremely influential Club Licensing Committee. The committee essentially decides which clubs are entitled to licences to play Champions League and Europa League football. This will become increasingly important as UEFA’s FFP rules shape the landscape of European football in the coming years. Influential: Chavski and M********* sChity could potentially suffer at the hands of David Gill Gill is a known advocate of FFP and one of four Barclays Premier League chiefs who proposed similar rules be implemented in English domestic football back in January. He said 18 months ago that the new European system would only work if ‘appropriate sanctions’ were imposed on those who missed the targets. Sanctions already discussed by UEFA president Michel Platini have included fines and, for severe offences, competition bans. Gill’s appointment will certainly raise eyebrows at clubs such as sChity and Chavski who are currently striving to ensure their losses are no greater than the 845million (£38m) limit allowed by FFP across last and next season. Long allegiance: Gill spent 10 years alongside Slur eckie Ferguscum at M********* U***** Money men: Sheikh Mansour and Roman Abramovich have funded much of M********* sChity's and Chavski's success Both clubs have been used to viewing Gill as a rival in recent years and it will not have escaped their attention that the 55-year-old is to remain a U***** director and board member, despite handing over the chief executive baton to Ed Woodward. On Monday night, a UEFA spokeswoman confirmed that Gill’s committee will have an influence over whether clubs’ finances entitle them to play in major European competition. This is despite that fact that the Club Financial Control Body will go through individual clubs’ finances initially to see if they meet the targets set by FFP. Gill will play no role in this part of the process.

FORMER Liverpool FC managing director Christian Purslow described selling the club to New England Sports Ventures as a "bottom of the barrel" deal, a court heard yesterday. Liverpool Daily Post, 11/02/11 In an astonishing email sent just a month before the deal with NESV was completed, Mr Purslow told LFC board members: He did not believe NESV had the money for a new stadium Their bid was at the "extreme bottom end" of what was wanted John Henry's background as a hedge fund financier "could not be worse” in PR terms The only positive was that they actually “existed”. The email was disclosed by Tom Hicks and George Gillett's legal team as they try to have an anti-suit injunction stopping them from suing for damages outside the UK or European Union lifted at London’s High Court. They want to show the deal accepted for LFC undervalued the club and ignored other, higher offers. The email was sent to fellow LFC directors Ian Ayre, Phillip Nash, and then chairman Sir Martin Broughton on September 15. It is not known if Mr Purslow’s opinion of the deal changed in the month leading up to the sale or if the NESV bid was subsequently improved. Mr Purslow urged the trio to "avoid the natural temptation to jump straight into the deal with NESV", and then lists all the negative elements in their bid. He wrote: "So what is positive? Answer, they exist. Which is not a lot, but it is not to be underestimated in importance." He then suggests that they "double check that none of the possibles who have come and gone in the last 18 months to apparent levels lower than Sharjah but higher than NESV are not there. “So I repeat this is a bottom of the barrel outcome." The reference to Sharjah is believed to refer to an alleged £600m bid for LFC from the Middle East. The club is back in court as Sir Martin, RBS, and NESV are asking the court to extend indefinitely an injunction stopping Hicks and Gillett suing for damages abroad. The injunction was taken out when Mr Hicks launched a $1.6bn lawsuit in Dallas trying to halt the £300m sale of the club in October last year. Hicks and Gillett want the restriction removed leaving them free to pursue a legal claim in the USA. The court heard from David Chivers QC, acting for NESV, who said Hicks and Gillett were cynically trying to manipulate international law in their pursuit of damages. He said the pair had not proved why a court order stopping them suing for damages outside the UK or the EU should be lifted. “The appropriate place for the dispute to be heard is in England”, said Mr Chivers. Earlier Sir Martin's barrister, Philip Marshall QC, returned to the issue of how Hicks and Gillett had sought to mislead the Texas court in October. “The conduct in Texas was quite extraordinary," he said. Lawyers acting for Hicks and Gillett told the Texas court they needed an injunction to stop the sale of the club and that no other injunction had been sought – despite the fact that just hours earlier a UK court had refused it. "I find it just incredible. It was utterly dishonest." Sir Martin Broughton is also asking the High Court to confirm he acted "honestly and reasonably" in the £300m sale of the club to NESV. Hicks and Gillett say there should be nothing to stop the case being held abroad. Paul Girolami, their QC, told the court that Hicks and Gillett's holding companies Kop Football Cayman and Kop Football Investments (registered in Delaware) through which they once controlled LFC, had separate rights to those of the two Americans. He drew the court's attention to a letter of appointment for Sir Martin when he was made chairman of the club last April. It was on Kop Investment headed notepaper that said Sir Martin was liable, for his responsibilities as a manager of the company, under Delaware corporate law, and that any disputes arising from his appointment were to be dealt with under English law. He then revealed a number of emails. The first dated August 22, 2010 from Phillip Hall of Inner Sports, acting for NESV, asked Sir Martin to keep their communications "confidential from the current owners". Sir Martin sent an email confirming that this was fine. Mr Girolami said an email between lawyers on September 9 spoke about a share purchase agreement to buy the club. He then revealed the Purslow email, dated September 15, and said that at this point his clients were still unaware of what was going on. Indeed it was not until after Sir Martin called a board meeting for October 5 to ratify the deal that Hicks and Gillett became aware of NESV, Mr Girolami claimed. The pair have recently been told by lawyers acting for Sir Martin that they have 75,000 emails involving the sale. The case continues today. Liverpool FC’s ex-managing director Christian Purslow said new owners’ bid was ‘bottom of barrel’, court hears - Liverpool News - News - Liverpool Daily Post

Here's the deal. I reckon there's around an 83% chance that Suarez is still with us next season, however this thread isn't for arguing the merits of keeping or selling Luis or even if he would want to leave. It isn't for stating the amount of money that we should consider accepting for Suarez. It is not intended for rants against FSG and/or Rodgers for not understanding football if they even countenance the sale of Suarez. It is for purely hypothetical suggestions of who could replace Suarez were we to sell him. He's more of the deal - this thread isn't for people saying "I'd also sell Downing, Shelvey, Allen and Assaidi and spend the money on two strikers and a defensive midfielder." No. Here's the proposition: You are Brendan Rodgers. You have a picture of yourself in your front hall and a strange hybrid Northern Irish/Scottish accent. You also have Code72's dream job of managing Liverpool. You have just received £45 million and want to spend it on a single player to replace Luis Suarez in the Liverpool front line. Bear in mind the reality of this situation, the cash to spend, the wages to offer (~ £120k/week) and the lure of the club. Who are you buying?

Pellegrini set to replace Mancini at Manchester City, claim reports | Football | The Guardian Night before the cup final, and the humiliation is complete. Mancini to go. Pellegrini set to replace Mancini at Manchester City, claim reports • Spanish sources say Málaga coach has agreed deal • Bookies slash odds on Pellegrini takeover to 10-1 on Jamie Jackson The Guardian, Saturday 11 May 2013 Roberto Mancini is facing fresh doubts over his future at Manchester City after reports in Spain stated on Friday evening last night that Manuel Pellegrini, the Málaga manager, had agreed to replace him at the start of next season. It is claimed that City will pay Pellegrini's €4m (£3.4m) release clause to secure his services, with Isco, the Málaga midfielder, also interesting the club as they consider whether to make a formal bid for him. While it is understood that City were privately claiming no knowledge of any deal, Pellegrini has told his players that he will leave Málaga at the end of this season. The timing of the claims threatens to undermine City's quest to win Saturday's FA Cup final against Wigan Athletic at Wembley, with one bookmaker slashing the odds to 10-1 on that Pellegrini will take over from Mancini. As reported by the Guardian last month, Txiki Begiristain, the City director of football, met with Jesus Martínez, Pellegrini's agent in Madrid. When the meeting was put to Mancini, the Italian attempted to laugh it off but did admit that he did not know why Begiristain was seen with Martínez. On Friday Mancini suggested he is fully aware of how ruthless management can be. "I won seven trophies in Inter in four years and they sack me after four years [in 2008]. This is football. I know football enough to understand this situation." Mancini's long-term future at City is certainly in the balance. Yet victory on Saturday would mean a third major trophy in his three full seasons at City, to follow last season's Premier League title and the FA Cup triumph in 2011, which may strengthen Mancini's hand. Although Mancini still holds considerable power at the club, it is Begiristain and Ferran Soriano, the chief executive, who have begun driving the long-term strategy, with the pair behind the potential introduction of a new 4-3-3 playing formation for next season, and they are also working closely together on bolstering the squad this summer. And in Norway, a little heart breaks...

Clubs such as Liverpool will struggle to ever win their national league again unless UEFA changes how it distributes the huge financial benefits of the Champions League, the head of the Bundesliga has claimed. Two German clubs - Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund - are contesting the Champions League final on Saturday but Christian Seifert, the Bundesliga chief executive, believes that UEFA needs to spread the rewards more broadly. Seifert fears that those financial rewards will continue to grow - and go straight to the top clubs and further distort national competitions. He told a briefing in London: "Money coming out of the Champions League is an enormous influence - in Germany it is double the money from the national media contract. "I think UEFA need to think again how they distribute the money from the Champions League and Europa League because each country needs an attractive national competition and not just two teams dominating. "Without a doubt it has an impact. If the money of the Champions League gets more and more and the gap gets bigger and bigger then of course it's probably not the best thing for national competition. "When I grew up one of the greatest teams was Liverpool. I'm not sure if they have the chance ever to win the Premier League again. "Because they have to compete with clubs who have a lot more financial opportunities like Man City and Chelsea plus money that comes from the Champions League. It's something you have to have in mind when you want to have a certain balance in between the league." The German top flight is viewed by many as a model league - 14 out of 18 clubs were in profit last season, 60% of the players are eligible to play for Germany, youth academies are obligatory and highly-developed and ticket prices are considerably lower than the Premier League - adult prices are as low 13 euros (£11) and average 23 euros (£20) - and there are strict rules on ownership. Attendances are booming and German clubs are held up as an example of how safe standing areas can work, and a Champions League winner this season is assured. Seifert insisted however that there was work still to be done. He added: "We are proud to have two teams in the final but it doesn't mean we have 18 teams on the level. For 10 years the discussion has been why we have no chance to win the Champions League. "You can't say 'wow - look what we have achieved', but in the last few years we have done more right than wrong."

An excellent piece from the always interesting Swiss Ramble on the financial coming of age of the Europa League (That's the one King Brenny can't be arsed to enter). The Europa League has long been regarded by leading clubs as a poor relation to the far more lucrative Champions League, but Chelsea’s prodigious efforts after parachuting in to the junior competition might just give pause for thought, as they will end up earning more from Europe this season than any other English club. Although they earned €5 million less than Manchester United from the Champions League after exiting at the group stage, they will receive at least €6.5 million from the Europa League, even if they lose the final. If they repeat last season’s victory in the Champions League, the sum earned will rise to around €9 million. This means that Chelsea will receive at least €40.9 million (Champions League €34.4 million + Europa League €6.5 million), rising to as much as €43.4 million if they win the Europa League. The Swiss Ramble

Nothing more to add really, he's a joke of a man.

Announcement on Anfield redevelopment expected Monday by TheAnfieldWrap // 13 October 2012 // 0 comments LIVERPOOL supporters have waited many years and been through two changes of ownership since the club first made clear the desperate need for a significant increase in capacity for home games. Following the takeover by FSG in 2010 the club began to look at the possibility of a redevelopment of Anfield alongside the various plans to move to a new stadium in Stanley Park. The Anfield Wrap understands that an announcement will be made on Monday confirming that Liverpool intend to redevelop Anfield. The announcement, it is understood, will be made by Liverpool City Council and relates to the commencement of Compulsory Purchase Order consultations as part of plans for improvements to the Anfield area. Those improvements include work to redevelop Liverpool Football Club’s Anfield stadium. The intention, following satisfactory progress in the consultations which continue into next year, is for the stadium redevelopment to commence in 2014.

What the fuck is going on with this? As I understand it the tax payer will pay for the construction of an Olympic stadium and both Spurs and West Ham are attempting to take over the stadium/site for a nominal fee following the games. A significant part of the London 2012 bid for the Olympics was the 'legacy' to athletics they promised and the regeneration of the area. As I understand it Spurs want to demolish the stadium and site to build a new stadia (at no doubetdly a massively reduced cost for the land) and West Ham want to turn the stadium into a football ground (with the running track in place). You had that sloppy faced bung taking cunt on the telly this afternoon telling 'hammers' how bad it would be for them to move there and the dildo sellers have based their entire business project/ownership of West Ham on moving to the site. I really, really don't want Spurs to get the site as they are obviously taking the piss, but then so too are the dildo sellers. Why should a club get a ready built stadia for an absolute fraction of the cost for greasing plenty of hands?

Zenit are in the middle of their windet break, that should work in our favour, the first part of the season ended 10/12-12 and it will start again 09/03-12, we will not find a better time to play them than this. Premier Liga 12/13: 1. CSKA Moskva 19 14 1 4 33-17 +16 43p 2. Anzhi 19 12 5 2 34-18 +16 41p 3. Zenit St Petersburg 19 11 5 3 36-18 +18 38p 4. Kuban 19 10 2 7 32-21 +11 32p 5. Spartak Moskva 19 10 2 7 35-30 +5 32p 6. Terek Grozny 19 10 2 7 23-27 -4 32p 7. Rubin Kazan 19 10 1 8 26-19 +7 31p 8. Lokomotiv Moskva 19 9 4 6 27-21 +6 31p 9. Dinamo Moskva 19 10 0 9 26-25 +1 30p 10. FC Krasnodar 19 8 4 7 33-27 +6 28p 11. FK Rostov 19 5 5 9 20-25 -5 20p 12. Amkar 19 5 4 10 19-31 -12 19p 13. Volga Nizhny Novgorod 19 4 5 10 19-30 -11 17p -------------------------------------------------------- 14. Krylya Sovetov 19 4 4 11 18-36 -18 16p ------------------------------------------------- 15. Alania Vladikavkaz 19 2 5 12 18-31 -13 11p 16. Mordovya 19 2 3 14 18-41 -23 9p We played Anzhi while their season was ongoing and while giving a few fringe players at home a chance we beat them 1-0 and only lost 1-0 away with almost a reserve team. Liverpool-Azhi 1-0 Anzhi-Liverpool 1-0 And if we look at the table we can see Anzhi is above Zenit, so with a winter break in Russia and a full strenght team I fancy our chances to get a good result in this game- We can also look at the results Zenit had in the Champions League before dropping to the Europa League in what I'd say is one of the weaker groups considering the current state of Milan and Malaga. 18/09 20:45 Málaga - Zenit St Petersburg 3-0 03/10 18:00 Zenit St Petersburg - Milan 2-3 24/10 18:00 Zenit St Petersburg - Anderlecht 1-0 06/11 20:45 Anderlecht - Zenit St Petersburg 1-0 21/11 18:00 Zenit St Petersburg - Málaga 2-2 04/12 20:45 Milan - Zenit St Petersburg 0-1 Champions League group C: 1. Málaga 6 3 3 0 12-5 12p 2. Milan 6 2 2 2 7-6 8p ----------------------------- 3. Zenit St Petersburg 6 2 1 3 6-9 7p 4. Anderlecht 6 1 2 3 4-9 5p I know football is not maths, but based on this I think we should be favourites and I will be bitterly disappointed if we dont go through overall and get a good result away in Russia.

Fuck off Sky with yere pro United bias. Started their report this morning with "some people are calling it 'the perfect match'". No! Some people aren't.....ye are! Don't remember this sort of build up when we played (and stonked) Madrid a few years back, even though we were rated number one in Europe at the time and have a better European record than the Mancs. I always want them to get beaten, but I want them to get absolutely fucking stuffed. 4 or 5 nil, with Madrid having 70%+ possession and play them off the park. Then let be known as " the perfect match", like us against Forest all those years ago. Probably no need for a new thread like, but just wanted to vent!

I'm reasonably used to public speaking and can usually hold my own (my job is selling), however I've just found out that I'll be speaking next week on a subject that I'm really not familiar with. My co-panellists will be high level guys who are experts in the subject and I am a bit worried that blagging will not be enough to get me through. Any tips on how to deal with questions and particularly jargon that I'm not familiar with whilst not looking like an obvious blagging twat?

LUIS SUAREZ EXCLUSIVE: I will stay with Liverpool even if we don't qualify for Champions League | Mail Online The Delfina video at the bottom is very special

anyone arsed about this?

Well FA Cup is here again, Know a lot of people say they don't like just putting a completely new team in for these games but I think its important we give certain players a game, plus any LFC selection of first team players should be looking to win this -------------Jones--------- Johnson--Carra---Coates--Robinson ----------Allen---Shelvey------- Sterling-------Suso---------Borini ---------------Sturridge---------- subs Gulacsi Agger Wisdom Lucas Henderson Downing Suarez

Training pics: Search - Getty Images : GBR: Liverpool FC Training Session I'd like to see - Reina, Wisdom, Skrtel, Agger, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Suarez, Sturridge, Borini - although it might be too early for Borini to start.

*** shakes head at this fat twat's holier than thou attitude ***

Ian Ayre can't even sack someone properly. The Times have an excellent piece on the case this morning- unfortunately it is behind a paywall on the net. The Club originally talked tough, but settled before Ayre's incompetence was exposed in a Tribunal.

Our Glen is worth a fortune, best full back in Europe? If he was Brazilian then he'd be called Jofu. He also looks a lot like LennyKravitz with short hair. Glen McLeod Cooper Johnson Maybe a song with GMCJ instead of YMCA.

What the fuck is going on there? We're barely in a position to laugh ourselves as we've struggled for one reason or another since Cardiff 2006 with the odd exception here and there, but I can see our future. We have a plan - we've hired a young, ambitious manager who has a plan. Whether he is backed by the moron owners is another thing altogether, but I can see that there is a plan in place and there is a structure to try and bring this all together. But what exactly is Arsenal's Modus Operandi? They aren't skint but Wenger is consistently selling their best players for good fees and then bringing in deadbeats (with the odd exception such as Cazorla) for half the price. He's obsessed with bringing through youth, youth that isn't good enough. Is the end in sight for Wenger? I reckon it is. I don't think they're going to get 4th but the problem runs much deeper than that for me. It's about no long term plan. They have been watching their squad go backwards for 2-3 years now and suddenly it's caught up with them.

Disgrace to the shirt. Do yourself a favour man and just fuck off.