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  1. by Dave Usher for ESPN Losing at Old Trafford is never easy to take if you're a Liverpool fan, but Wednesday's 1-0 Capital One Cup loss to Manchester United was especially tough to stomach. Brendan Rodgers' men dominated much of the game and turned in their most complete 90-minute display of the season, yet it's Manchester United and not Liverpool that will be in the draw for the next round. Failing to deal with set pieces coupled with an infuriating wastefulness in the final third proved to be Liverpool's undoing, but if Kopites can put the bitter disappointment to one side, there are some encouraging things to take from this. Admittedly, putting that disappointment to one side is difficult -- especially in the immediate aftermath -- and I'm struggling to contain some of the anger and frustration that built up during an infuriating 90 minutes. But when the dust settles, there are definitely things that bode well for the immediate future. Despite the positives, which I'll get to in due course, losing to Manchester United always stings, and given that the Premier League title was obviously never a realistic prospect (despite the bold and misguided proclamations of Victor Moses last week), this loss means Liverpool have just seen their hopes of lifting a trophy this season reduced by 50 percent. Read the full article here.
  2. Info I'm getting is that Mascherano's playing right back with Johnson on the left. Reina Masch Carra Agger Johnno Benny Stevie Lucas Babel Aquilani Kuyt
  3. Minimum acceptable standard is to finish second - that will not happen now. Have played garbage all season and it will not get much better. Real danger now that we wont qualify for CL next season. Rot must be stopped immediatly. If we lose to gunners and villa we're prob in relegation zone. If we dont win next four league games Rafa must go. Results and performances simply not good enough for Liverpool FC - the best football club in the world.
  4. Rafael Benitez insists Liverpool will adopt an attacking mentality in their attempt to bring Manchester City's undefeated home record to an end on Sunday. The Reds make the short journey to Eastlands this weekend looking to overtake Roberto Mancini's fourth place side in the Barclays Premier League table by claiming three points. And Benitez acknowledges a Liverpool victory can make a real statement of intent in the race for Champions League football. "It will be a very important game for both teams," the boss told reporters. "We know from our positions we are both fighting with Tottenham and Aston Villa, so we have to keep going until the end (of the season). "We will try to win. If you cannot, it is better not to lose, but the main thing for us is to try and win. "We will try to attack and we know we will have to score goals if we want to win. "You never know how you can win - sometimes it is counter-attack, sometimes it is attacking, so we will try to find the right balance. "They are an attacking team and we will have to attack too, so I think it will be more open (than against Unirea)." Quizzed by reporters on whether he felt there was more pressure on Liverpool and City to secure a top four finish, rather than the other clubs in the race, Benitez replied: "Tottenham have spent some money, Villa have spent some money, City have spent some money and we have spent some money so the pressure is on all of us. "We have a lot of games to play and every game will be important, especially when you play against a team who is near you in the table." City could be without top scorer Carlos Tevez for Sunday's encounter after the forward was allowed to return to Argentina on compassionate leave this week. However, Benitez believes Roberto Mancini's charges have enough quality at their disposal to still pose a significant threat should the 19-goal striker miss out. He said: "I don't know if he will be available, but clearly he is a good player who is doing well. "But they have other good strikers, so I think they have enough quality in the squad and can replace Tevez with another good player. "If Tevez is not there and they miss him we will be pleased, but I will say again, they have quality." Meanwhile, the gaffer ruled out the possibility of Fernando Torres being included in the Reds' travelling party for the trip to Manchester. The Spain striker is continuing to make good progress in his recovery from knee surgery at Melwood, but is not yet ready for a first-team return. Asked whether there were any other injury concerns following the victory over Unirea Urziceni, Benitez added: "There are some knocks, but nothing serious at this moment." Rafa plots City attack - Liverpool FC
  5. Rafa stating that he aint going to Juventus, which brought about some conflicting debates in the "http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/ff-football-forum/88340-rafa-statement.html thread. So by the looks of it he seems intent on staying. If does get us back into the Champions League would that be enough for you to give him another crack at it or is his time up? Personally, i think he has a plan and thatr for me is enough to give him one more season. He is buidling something here and inspite of what happened this season, we are still a great club. If by next January we are still fighting for 4th, out of the Champions League and the title race then I would like him to go.
  6. After Carraghers exhortations V Spurs, i wonder what he makes of Benitez' selections tonight? Good to see him demotivate and bewilder Aquilani so soon after his progressive display v Spurs. And to a lesser extent, Degen. Do you see now? All you loyalists, who happily slag off Babel, and refuse to see what a negative influence this guy is on the creativity in our side. Dont you see what hes done to countless forwards? He's now doing the same to Aquilani. You can put your house, every week, on Benitez dropping from the side the very players that shone in the previous game. The guy is a total psycho. Who's paying Benitez? The Glazers? He makes my fucking skin crawl. The gutless, joyless, clueless, negative, cagey, cowardly ****. Neg away boys. Worst. Boss. Ever. No its not a fucking poem.:wallbutt:
  7. Fucking hell, this is some bad shit. Glazers raise the spectre of Old Trafford sale to cut debt - Premier League, Football - The Independent Glazers raise the spectre of Old Trafford sale to cut debtClub admit £300m lease-back scheme for iconic stadium would be considered to balance finances By Ian Herbert Thursday, 14 January 2010 The Glazer family have raised the prospect of selling Old Trafford in the prospectus circulated to potential investors from whom they are seeking £500m to refinance Manchester United. The club's owners state in the document that the legal contract governing the £500m bond, details of which, they have issued this week "will not prohibit us from selling certain key properties" and these include "our training ground facilities and our stadium". This introduces the possibility of United selling and leasing back the most iconic asset they have – which Joel Glazer pledged after the purchase of the club in May 2005 would never happen and which would leave United supporters in a state of open revolt. Some analysts suggested yesterday the Glazers could secure an immediate £300m from the ground's sale – a figure which would almost halve their astronomical £700m debt, though another burden on the club would be felt immediately. A prospective freeholder would probably want a five per cent rental yield, meaning United would be encumbered with a £15m-a-year bill to go with the huge interest repayments which the Glazers' leveraged buyout has heaped on the club. The Glazers state in the prospectus that anyone acquiring either the 75,797-capacity stadium or United's Carrington training ground "will be required to enter into a long-term lease with us to enable us to continue to have substantially the same access to such property as we currently do." But there is a clear warning as to the effects of a sale: "If we sell or transfer either or both of these properties [Old Trafford or Carrington] we will no longer control them." There is also an admission that Old Trafford may suffer if United no longer own it. "The failure by the [freeholder] in respect of either or both of these properties to maintain the properties or to make additional capital expenditures to improve the facilities at such properties could have a material adverse effect on our business and results of operations." The revelation that such an outcome is possible will distress fans for whom this week's prospectus has laid bare the financial realities of the club. The prospectus articulates the Glazers' desire "to continue to preserve and expand our control of revenue-generating assets" and in 2007 United bought ITV's 33.3 per cent share in the television station MUTV to that end, bringing 66.7 per cent of the channel under Glazer control. But the Manchester United Supporters' Trust warned as far back as 2006 that the sale of Old Trafford or the sale of other businesses looked like the only way of bringing down the crippling levels of debt incurred by the club and its new owners. The 322-page prospectus, the basis for a bond offer which will consolidate and extend by four years the capital repayment date on bank loans taken out to buy the club, but not reduce the rate of interest, provides an extraordinary level of detail about the financial workings of an intensely private business. Though the club have brushed aside suggestions that they unfairly poached Paul Pogba, the defensive midfielder and captain of the France Under-16 side (whose previous club, Le Havre, have pledged to pursue a transfer ban as Lens have over Chelsea's purchase of Gaël Kakuta), the Glazers admit that there is a risk of a ban. Fifa has given a licence governing Pogba's transfer for now but "in the event of a decision against us, possible sanctions include a fine and a transfer ban," investors are warned. The owners are legally bound to raise worst-case scenarios. The issue of Uefa banning clubs with high debt levels is, though also raised by the Glazers, not seen as an imminent threat. But a more pressing one, also raised in the document, is that of a £5.3m hit from HM Revenue & Customs as a result of the current investigation into whether players should pay tax on the image rights they are paid. United's major players will be stung by such an outcome but so too the club, which will be liable for around £5.3m – the equivalent of their National Insurance contributions from 2000 to 2010.
  8. Mickey Quinn said he has gone to the MD and told him we need a change in the manager. It's curtains for the fat man now. It's not a matter of if when when this fool leaves Anfield. I knew something was up after this Murphy quote. ""I will always be a fan. I keep in touch with a lot of people close to the club and many think the time has come for a new manager. "
  9. Same as last time, I'd genuinelynow how much opinions have been swayed by the latest results, and I'm sticking with the same shit I wrote last time:** This is not a thread to slag off Rafa, I'm not interested in a slanging match between people cos they have a different opinion, and I don't want a thread just slagging off Rafa either so........ This is a straightforward question, and I'm genuinely interested in the outcome. After hearing quite a few people in the crowd last night saying he should be sacked, and then in the pub after where it was 50-50 for and against him, what do the luminaries of the TLW think? I'm making it a private poll cos I want a straightforward, honest answer from everyone. I decided to add a 3rd option, give him till the end of the season, and also I've left it open till next Saturday. I've also added in extra questions, I'd like to know if you've changed your opinion. **I KNOW we ALL want the owners out first and foremost, (before Nick gives me a load of shite about the poll).
  10. Hopefully this can be debated sensibly Several months ago I asked the Rafa supporters "How is Rafa going to turn this around and what is he going to do to make things better" most were standard wait and see replies and the people who I respect came back with the answer once he gets all his players back everything will be fine. Well he did get all his players back and he is now lost them again So the question still stands is how is Rafa going to change things round but probably the better question is can he turn things round and how much has he got to turn it around to catch Man City. If we could be nice cuddly teddy bears and debat this sensibly it would be very much appreciated.
  11. Sunday January 17 2010 If Liverpool think they are in trouble now, just wait until Rafa walks Liverpool's traditional January crisis has momentum this year. Perhaps this is because it follows on so swiftly from their December crisis which had been directly prefaced by a November crisis that in itself was merely an extension of the October crisis which would not have come about except for their September crisis simply being a continuation of their August crisis that was merely a hangover from their close season debacle. For much of last season they were in crisis too, even for the long periods when they were top of the league. During those troubling times it was generally agreed that Rafael Benitez must be doing something right, although nobody could agree on exactly what it was. The best they could often come up with was the signing of Javier Mascherano. He deserved no credit for signing Fernando Torres. That was a no-brainer, except for all the smart men who didn't sign him. Winning matches was then at least a part of it, but there has always been a great reluctance to give Benitez credit for that, with the view often being that he won the wrong ones. He didn't understand the English game, they said, as he went on to win the European Cup, perhaps giving the fans their finest moment in Liverpool memory, something they have, much to the displeasure of the media, been reluctant to forget about ever since. Last season, Liverpool challenged for the title, performing as well as they had in 20 years, beating the teams they were supposed to beat. Now that Liverpool have stopped winning matches, there is no reason to search desperately for reasons to praise Benitez. Liverpool are a team designed for knockIf -out competitions and now they have lost the main feature of teams designed to win knock-out competitions: the ability to win matches. For some perspective out of the reach of the phone-in callers who wonder why Peter Crouch is not playing for Liverpool (Crouch turned down a new contract at Liverpool so it would be an egregious breach of employment law if they continued to select him now) or suggest David Bentley as the missing link, it is worth revisiting Liverpool's January crisis from last season. There were a number of reasons to criticise Benitez last January, but the main one was his treatment of Robbie Keane who, according to the critics, hadn't been given a chance. Keane started nearly every league game during his time at Liverpool but, again, that didn't matter. Keane rarely starts for Tottenham but that is understandable because Peter Crouch and Jermain Defoe are untouchable. If he leaves White Hart Lane, nobody would see it as a failure of Harry Redknapp's famed man-management skills. In some ways, it is the same this season. Liverpool have had a poor time, but, in the context of this crazy season, only the exit from the Champions League has been truly damaging. The FA Cup remains an irrelevance and would have been ignored by those who now stress its importance if Liverpool had won it. The crazies have been bolstered by comments from ex-players like Ronnie Whelan. In the devalued currencies of punditry, Whelan is the Zimbabwean dollar, but he found a few places where his money was good last week. As the phone-in callers deal in the superficial, it is worth contrasting the praise handed out to Alex Ferguson last week, when it became known that he was acting under some severe financial constraints, with the treatment of Benitez. Despite starting with a number of advantages like a massive stadium and a team used to winning titles, United are now utterly dependent on Wayne Rooney. Liverpool, at least, are utterly dependent on two players. Benitez has never known a day at Anfield when the club wasn't being spectacularly badly run. Since the sale to Hicks and Gillett, the problems shared have become problems doubled. Last week, Liverpool's new owners were again giving an indication of how far they had sunk when Tom Hicks Jr resigned after telling a fan in an email to "blow me, f**k face, go to hell, I'm sick of you." This was pithy and to the point but, in the age of outrage, it understandably provoked a lot of anger among Liverpool fans. It did not change their fundamental position on any member of the Hicks family. They wanted them out beforehand and they wanted them out afterwards. Hicks' wild email made no difference and, it has become so normal, that nobody even wonders about the disruption to the team. Nothing that Benitez achieves seems to change the view that Liverpool are in crisis. So this season seems to be a continuation of the bad years, bad years when Benitez was winning against all odds. He has made a few mistakes. Perhaps he should not have talked about Liverpool's debt to such a degree as it has undermined the club and, in constantly looking to re-sign Emile Heskey, he has looked like being the first employee who instigates his own constructive dismissal. He is probably too far gone now. The forces he tried to take on, the media he treated with contempt in particular, create their own momentum and affect confidence. Liverpool are a complex, dysfunctional club and they judge Benitez on the superficial to the end. Liverpool have been talking about their disappointing season since they lost to Aston Villa in August. The reality is that only in recent weeks has the league title become virtually impossible but I would guess privately Benitez hasn't ruled it out. Benitez remains true to a value system that he has employed since he arrived. On Wednesday night, once more he refused to engage and, once more, it was another reason to criticise him. The presenters, the reporters and the phone-in callers all seemed to assume they were more upset about the defeat to Reading than Benitez. In their world, so free of compassion, perspective and insight, they were probably right. In the real world, they were, as so often, wrong. So I hope he stays true to his code as they hound him from the job. He has been a resounding success but it may be time to walk away. He deserves more than the contempt of pundits like Whelan. Benitez cares too much. He should address those who have stacked the odds against him and, one last time, tell the truth in language they might understand: "Blow me, f**k face. Go to hell, I'm sick of you." If Liverpool think they are in trouble now, just wait until Rafa walks - Other Sports, Sport - Independent.ie
  12. Agger sent home to assess back injury. Hope its not serious. Agger injury blow | Liverpool - EatSleepSport
  13. Sky Sports | Football | News | Murphy - Rafa should go The experienced midfielder, who is now on the books of Fulham, believes the time has come for sweeping changes to be made at Anfield if they are to set out on the road to recovery. The 32-year-old playmaker is of the opinion that in order for progress to be made, Benitez needs to be shown the door and a new manager brought in to help steady the ship. With pressure mounting on the Spaniard with each passing game, it may only be a matter of time before Murphy's beliefs are shared by the Liverpool board. A disastrous 2009/10 has underlined just how far away the club are from being regular contenders for major trophies, and much of the blame for their ongoing failings has been laid at Benitez's door. "If you ask me has the time for Liverpool come to look for a new manager then I have to say 'yes'," Murphy told the News of the World. "That is not me slating the guy because he forced me out when I didn't want to leave the club in the first place. Neither am I saying he is a bad manager. But over the last year or so the club have not moved forwards, in fact they are going backwards. Mistakes "I will always be a fan. I keep in touch with a lot of people close to the club and many think the time has come for a new manager. I agree providing that process doesn't cripple the club financially in terms of pay-offs." He added: "Liverpool's problems at the moment are not just about some of the bad buys they have made for a lot of money over the last few years, but also the mistakes they've made in letting players go. "I am not thinking of an obvious one like (Xabi) Alonso, but why on earth did Benitez sell players like Peter Crouch and Craig Bellamy when they are so reliant on Fernando Torres? "It goes without saying the team have ended up relying too much on Torres, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher. "Over the past two years Benitez has made too many bad decisions. History says he has won the Champions League and the FA Cup for Liverpool, although even then people can argue about the merit of those wins. "What I do know is that after being there for this length of time the debate should no longer be about Liverpool qualifying for the Champions League or where they finish in the league but actually winning the title. And that's not going to happen again this season. So something has to change. "People go on about how well Liverpool did last season by finishing runners up? So what? We finished second under Gerard Houllier with 80 odd points. Our team also won three big trophies in one season. So things haven't really got much better. If anything they have got worse." I agree that Rafa should go but I don't think we are anywhere near as bad as we were in 2004. I love Murphy but some of what he says in that article is questionable IMO. Your thoughts lads?
  14. Kirkland has signed a permanent deal with Wigan with a contract until 2009. Don't know how much for though. Probably alot less than the £6 million we paid for him.
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