AlissonsBeard

24 minutes ago, Supremolad said:

So you mean to tell me the Premier League signed off on postponing the game without sufficient evidence? I would love to see the evidence of this. Genuinely.

 

What I read was the fact that a decison was taken to postpone the game because they were not sure how many more players had been infected or not. So the next round of testing was very crucial to provide confirmation. And those results then came back negative for all their other players and staff, which allowed training ro resume.

 

And also, to what end is all of this? So City were so scared of the mighty Everton, they preferred to cry off that game only to get ready for the Chelsea game a couple days later? Sounds bonkers to me. Considering they would still have to fit in those 2 extra PL games somewhere in an already congested calendar. 

"Not knowing how many other players are infected" is pure obfuscation. There are clear protocols for teams to monitor and isolate close contacts of infected players. If City were following these protocols, it would have been straight forward for them to confirm the number of absent players and whether this met the threshold for postponement. If they were not following the protocols, they should be fined and forfeit the points. 

As for the supposed evidence, their opponents were apparently not provided with it so it's reasonable enquire whether it exists at all. 

21 minutes ago, Supremolad said:

He's making no damn sense.

 

The outbreak was their fault. Yeah and so, that means the Premier League should have allowed the game to go ahead vs Everton when they were not sure at that point if more players had been infected or not. So let's compromise more players on both sides just because some Liverpool fans would be angry at City getting a "few days extra of rest". Forgetting we did fuck all with our own 8 day period of rest.

 

And also ignoring the fact that games had been cancelled before and after  which didnt involve City. And I certainly didn't see all this cryarsing when those other cancellations took place.

This is beside the point. The PL rules stipulate that matches should proceed unless a team is unable to field 11 players plus 3 substitutes. City have offered no evidence that the quantum of positive tests (and close contacts of those infected) was anywhere near the scale that would need meet this threshold given their massive, expensively assembled squad. It is entirely reasonable (as Everton did) to request this evidence and take a dim view of their behaviour until it is provided. 

He's had Covid and been assaulted by a Brazilian mongrel - that hardly makes him the new Adam Lallana. He'll be back soon and the Morientes/Keita analogies are not going to age well.

Class and Dignity FC being undone by the LiVARPool conspiracy again. 

Must have loaned Wilson our PEDs. 

Playing at home whilst top of the table, us coming off a 7-2 drubbing, GK and best defender out, two shocking VaRs in their favour. They won't have a better chance for a long, long time. 23 and counting. 

FSG have overplayed their hand with the 6+3 voting system. Shifting to a simple majority of new members (10/18) or making voting rights proportional to revenue would have achieved broadly the same outcome without the obvious stench of creating a cartel/closed shop. 

Where's the (extra) Coutinho money, John? 

Brighton squad well on their way to herd immunity. 

1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

And as the no relegation argument gets a kicking from the tv broadcasters, here comes the desparate clubs' next argument.

 

They're concerned fans will congregate outside the neutral stadiums.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8286149/Up-10-clubs-growing-concerned-crowd-control-Premier-League-restarts.html

 

That article is a load of hysterical shite. 

Virus or not, nothing in life is 100% safe or risk free. All social or economic activity requires a judgement about the right balance of cost, benefits and risks.

Will a few nobs travel thousands of miles to stand outside an empty stadium? Yes

Will that possibly contribute to a few more cases of the virus? Probably

Is that a reason to keep a £ trillion industry which directly or indirectly employs hundreds of thousands and benefits the well being of millions more shut for 12-18 months? No 

As far as I can tell, voiding and denying us the title isn't a "thing" outside of the lunatic fringes of the game (twitter, washed up ex-players looking for a click bait headline, shit rags like the Daily Star/Metro, forum WUMs). All of the talk among credible journalists/sources within the game is it's not an option under serious consideration. 

The PL will have enough of a mess untangling CL/Europa qualification, promotion, relegation - the idea that they will compound all that with the biggest miscarriage of justice in sporting history when there is no vested interest against us doesn't make a huge amount of sense. 

3 hours ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

If we don't get to finish the season, they will have their victory because they will be blabbing on forever that we hadn't definitely won the league or they will take solace we never got to have the joy of lifting the trophy.

This is the same tiny minority that would blab on forever about PEDs, VAR, PL conspiracies etc. if we finish the season. Everyone else (i.e. people in football with a functioning brain) recognise that we're deserving champions.

As for not having the joy of lifting the trophy, that would be a bit shit but should be good extra motivation to win number 20 in front of the fans. 

4 minutes ago, The Golden Eel said:

I very much doubt City or Everton would want to void the league out of spite. I mean, their fans are obviously a pack of horrible cunts, but the clubs aren't going to embarrass themselves like that. Every fucker knows it's only right and just that we win this title, whatever else happens. Even if they "cancel" the rest of the league, whatever they do with the rest of it, we should be given the league trophy. As of now, I'm concerned the remaining games won't happen but I still fancy that, in that event, we'll be crowned champions. 

Agreed - I was making a conservative estimate of the clubs that might vote for it. In practice, suspect the number will be much smaller (probably just bottom 3).

Assuming the season can't be completed, they will need some mechanism to decide the entrants to next season's PL and CL. Voiding the season would imply a re-run with the same clubs as 2019/20.  

That would mean:

- Robbing the title from us

- Denying Leicester a nailed on place in the CL

- Denying United a probable spot in the CL (assuming City's ban is upheld) at the expense of Arsenal (5th place last year) 

- Denying Leeds and West Brom a £100m promotion windfall   

- Bonus year in the PL for Villa, Bournemouth and Norwich

Seems pretty unlikely that the above would be chosen over simply ending the season after match day 29. 

The only clubs with an incentive to support voiding are bottom 3, City/Everton (out of spite) and Arsenal/Spurs.