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I fear even Jurgen is closer to walking away from this shambles of a performance.

7 minutes ago, J-V said:

 

Lets be fair Henderson would have passed it back to Alisson.

Yep, here we go, hendo not even on the pitch but he's the fucking problem! Apparently.

7 minutes ago, an tha said:

Still nailing my colours to the mast of a midfield rebuild will fix us.....but where is the roughly 200m we need for it gonna come from....?

A midfield rebuild wont fix this because even if a new midfield created more chances, the current front 3 wouldnt convert them and we'd still conceed crap goals.

7 minutes ago, waddy78 said:

A lot has been said over the last few games about body language being wrong the big question should be why is it wrong? What's happened for things to get that way? and more importantly why haven't the coaching staff got it sorted including Klopp ?  It's fucking worrying how this has gotten worse rather than better.

I can think of a few reasons but, the consequences of them arent good or palatable, some may not even face up to the possibility of them.

This is a team that hasnt just lost its way, it's lost its team bonding and unity.

Ive seen this scenario play out before and not just at our club.

Calamitous. I really dont know why Jurgen persists with Joel. He's up there with Jamie for OGs. Honestly Jurgen, dump your loyalty and get Nat in the team before you get dumped yourself.

2 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Fuck you, White, you League One cart horse.

£50m well spent by arteta and arsenal though!

New manager bounce and who wants the win more so, calm down. That said, arsenal are one of a couple of clubs that have been punching above their weight and I still think city will win the title.

5 minutes ago, an tha said:

Nunez down middle please

 

Liverpool: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Matip, Robertson, Bajcetic, Thiago, Keita, Salah, Gakpo, Nunez.

Subs: Kelleher, Milner, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jones, Elliott, Tsimikas, Carvalho, Phillips.

Hmmm, Jurgen fucked Fab off after that horror cameo at Brighton.

Like I say, football games often come down to who wants the win more. The oppos have wanted it more than us for most of this season. Until that stops, games are going to be edgy. Make it happen boys, 3 points not zero.

23 minutes ago, Special K said:

We're going to have our work cut out next week aren't we?

We have our work cut out beating anyone at the moment so Im not joining in the pessimism.

She doesnt work for the club so it's fucking bizarre to say the club is ok with her saying this stuff. She works for Sky but is their go to journo for comments and observation about Liverpool. She's acting in the manner dictated by her employer not LFC.

Well, well, well, what a surprise! According to the daily wail.........

chelsea are planning to seek exemptions from the Premier League’s spending rules when they submit their accounts at the end of the season. 

They argue they were unable to receive income for three months last year after the previous owner, Roman Abramovich, was sanctioned by the Government.

Under Premier League rules, clubs are permitted to lose £105million over any three-year period, and Chelsea’s unusual circumstances last season put them at risk of a breach. Chelsea recorded losses of £153.4m in their most recent accounts for the year ending 2021 but, along with other top-flight clubs, were given allowances by the Premier League due to the impact of the pandemic on their finances. 

When your not yet 2 year old grandson says 'Grandpa! Hat!' then hands you one, before you go outside to chase him round the cul de sac \ kick a football \ push him around on a pedal truck!

Absolute magic!

On 02/02/2023 at 10:39, Gnasher said:

As I said "thought". Its not my game. 

 

Anyway to the untrained eye it seems Octopus are playing the long game. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/01/octopus-says-it-chose-to-ditch-profit-to-keep-energy-bills-down

 

As an aside. I moved from British Gas to Octopus and I find them OK on the whole. They're certainly better than British Gas.

 

 

+1 for Octopus. I think they are one of the few suppliers who havent jacked up people's DD by obscene amounts.

Reddy's syndicated article smacks of a story created to fit a number of resignations at the club.

Kornmayer has been at the club since 2016. Jurgen brought him in. Seems a bit ludicrous to suggest he may be the centre of all this 'friction' stuff but if he is, doesnt that mean Jurgen's complicit?

2 hours ago, Reckoner said:

Radcliffe vs Marine is the main event lad. Could prove pivotal in the battle for that last play off spot.

Cmon the lilywhites!

While not undermining the seriousness of rape, one hopes to fuck none of our lads get caught up in similar allegations as this united or other club's player, because the semantic somersaults some will do if \ when charges are dropped will be up there with the 'Im ok with an oil state ownership of the club.'

Thought Mel Reddy was generally derided on here but now she's the trusted journo with finger on the button and all the inside news etc.

Other than to open yet another FSG Out type thread, I've no idea why this one was started.

18 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

I have agreed there will be some drop off. Some will be natural attrition, some won’t like the way the club is heading and take a stand. 
 

Personally, I think those taking a stand will be few and far between. 

 

If we win the CL or League under Qatari / whoever owners, do we seriously think there still won’t be >750k there for a parade? 
 

Again, there will be some drop off, anybody expecting it to be anything substantial are kidding themselves and the broad make up of supporters won’t change much at all. 
 

Considering how it’s been this season, it’s can’t be any worse. We won’t go down the route of Man City with free kids tickets left & right and “influencers” because we don’t have to - demand always vastly outstrips our supply. 

I dont think there will be any drop off in attendance generally. The only time there will be a drop off is when the new 'I dont care how we win, just fucking win' types find a run of poor form means the team doesnt win and those same people say 'Im not paying 50 quid to watch that shite' and avoid going the game.

What Im saying is the make up of the match going fans will change. The ground will be fuller with the couldnt give a fuck, win at any cost types. The ones who'll boo like fuck if they have to pay and sit through the type of results we've seen this season, the type who think YNWA only has one verse and start clapping like fuck at the end of that verse, worse than they do now, the ones who are on their phones during the game telling social media what a good \ bad time they're having, the type that leaves the ground with 15 minutes to go because they want to avoid the traffic \ get into the pub so they can order a few beers before the rest pile in.

3 hours ago, JohnnyH said:

 

I agree with this.  It won't be 100,000s of fans turning their backs overnight, it'd be a drip drip.

 

I would never ever miss a single Liverpool match that was on telly (and with us having televised 3pm Saturday kick offs in Ireland, Liverpool were on pretty much every week) but as a result of having young kids, I now miss a lot of matches.  I'm standing on the sidelines at an under 6s GAA thing or at swimming lessons or whatever when Liverpool are playing.  And whereas a few years ago that annoyed me, now I don't care.  If we end up owned by someone like Saudi, then I'll  have no problem turning my back almost completely. I'll always check the score and will have a pang of happiness when we win or a pang of sadness when we lose, but that has significantly diminished in recent years as I see the game get more and more into the realms of the absurd, and I now don't think it'd be too difficult to leave it all behind,  A horrible state owned sportswashing circus that is throwing hundreds of millions at it just for fun would make it very easy for me to jib it off once and for all.

Correct. And these people will be replaced by the 'couldnt give a fuck how we win' types that you find in their thousands on social media, the day trippers and certain headgear wearers.

2 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

Sorry I didn't account for the fuck wittery of Sky Sports, it's the internal debts between parent company and the club, external loans haven't been touched and they've not been written off they've been converted to shares.

 

Still good for Leicester's books but not quite the grand gesture Sky are reporting it as.

 

ESPN

 

Reuters

 

Express

 

The Athletic

 

Sport Business

 

Sorry, have to disagree with your analysis here. This is no different to what Mansour has done at city except he's extinguished their debt as it arose rather than let it accumulate as Leicester's owners have then pay it down.

People can use all the semantics they want, it isnt legit and it's the same MO as city.

1 hour ago, Scott_M said:

This isn’t a hill I’m willing to die on!

 

I still feel the people not going is being over exaggerated. 

 

Let’s see what happens. 

The point you're missing is the type who will be in the ground when this happens. It will be the 'win at any cost' which you seem to have joined plus all the day trippers and tourists I see others condemning all the time on here.

But hey ho, be careful what we wish for.

9 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

They were the jersey sponsor for years. Seems legit.

So city's owners have operated in a legit way since 2008 and here was me thinking they just do the same as Leicester's owner but on a bigger scale.

Just been reading Leicester City's owner has pumped over £194m into the club to wipe out all its debt. This is the 2nd time the club's owners have done this in the last 10 years or so when they paid off a previous £100m of debt.

Apparently, there's no FFP implications for doing this which I find incredible. They were supposedly in danger of breaching the PL's laughably lax FFP rules but now, are ok because the owner pumped in nearly £200m to wipe the slate clean for a 2nd time.

No doubt Boehly will do the same  within the next 2 or 3 years to paid down some of chelsea's debt making sure the club is within both the PL and UEFA's FFP.

A total and utter farce.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11700895/Leicester-City-chairman-relieves-Foxes-staggering-194MILLION-debt-owed.html

Im praying for 3 points for us. Im an atheist, by the way!

1 minute ago, Scott_M said:

 

As a supporter, I have to admit, I wouldn’t be calming down on my celebrations of us winning the league because we had some bogus sponsors. 

It would have a fucking massive asterisk against it, just like Ive been saying every one of city's trophies since 2008 has, just like all chelsea's trophies under Abramovich have.