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    Jurgen Norbert Klopp

    All his career, Jürgen Klopp has inspired a devotion from fans approaching idolatry. For his farewell at Mainz, 15,000 saluted him in the city’s main square. When he left Dortmund, a teeming Yellow Wall unfurled a “Danke, Jürgen” banner the size of a small cornfield. What outpourings might one day herald his departure from Liverpool? For his disciples in red, it honestly does not bear thinking about. They converged on Wembley to toast not just their irrepressible team but a manager who could yet fulfil a quest that all before him, the crestfallen Pep Guardiola included, have found impossible. Yes, the quadruple is now truly in his clasp. It was a delirious atmosphere inside Wembley, a springtime cacophony played out amid the smoke from dozens of red flares Liverpool supporters had somehow smuggled past security. To think, there had been suggestions that many might struggle to travel here due to Easter rail works on the West Coast mainline. Some hope. Klopp is a man who could entice the true believers to follow him to the outer moons of Neptune. As the final whistle sounded on this watershed victory over Manchester City, against whose standard Liverpool are so often compared, Klopp motioned initially to head down the tunnel. Instead, he turned on his heels, sprinting on to the pitch to perform four theatrical fist-pumps. Perhaps the number was coincidental. Traditionally, the quadruple has been a frontier so remote that Guardiola would refuse to hear the word uttered in his presence. But for the next six weeks, everything Klopp does will be framed by the pursuit of glory on all four fronts. “Let’s go for it,” he grinned. Already, his Liverpool players have gone further than any Premier League team before them to keep the idea alive. Even in 2019, the year that City won an unprecedented domestic treble, talk of the “quad” expired with a Champions League defeat to Tottenham on April 17. Last year, the plan was sabotaged on the same date by the first of three consecutive defeats to Chelsea. Barring any implosion in the league, Liverpool should still be masters of their own ultimate destiny come May. On this evidence, you would not put anything past them. This season, Klopp has brought his fanbase to a pitch of overwhelming emotion. Liverpool dwarfed City in every department at Wembley, the energy of the players matched by the cascade of passion from the stands. Seldom can an FA Cup semi-final on neutral ground have felt so powerfully like a home game. It is one of the quirks of the Klopp era that this was the first time Liverpool had reached the last four during his tenure. The manner of the breakthrough, Ibrahima Konaté racing on to Andrew Robertson’s corner to bury a header beyond Zack Steffen, illustrated a resolve to savour every moment. If the second goal was a gift courtesy of the hapless Steffen, the third, lashed in emphatically by Sadio Mané, made even Klopp puff out his cheeks in admiration. For 45 minutes, Liverpool had achieved the last word in what he had once called “heavy metal football”, pressing so high and so relentlessly that City’s stand-in goalkeeper was punished for just a split-second’s dawdling. You look at Klopp in this mood and you realise that Liverpool could not have a machine-tooled a manager more perfectly in sync with their character. The reason he became so adored in Mainz and Dortmund is that he brought not simply technical mastery to the job, but soul. Klopp’s connection with Liverpool also has an authenticity that cannot be confected. His unveiling in 2015 was stamped indelibly by his little tap on the This Is Anfield tunnel badge. Even when he fell short in the 2018 Champions League final in Kyiv, he was still filmed singing the 'Allez, allez, allez' chant with bedraggled fans at 6am. If you think their love for Klopp is exaggerated, just contrast his electrifying influence with the grim regression at Manchester United over the same seven years. While figures such as Jose Mourinho and Ralf Rangnick have only ever looked as if they are passing through, Klopp builds an impression of permanence, the sense of a project. His approach is one of total immersion, and it has propelled Liverpool to the undreamt-of heights of winning a title by 18 points and closing in on a quadruple that defies all known rules of endurance. The consensus until recently was that few coaches of the modern era could hold a candle to Guardiola. Except Klopp has just become the first to beat him 10 times. In the endless comparisons between two teams and two managers of generational brilliance, there is an argument that Klopp is now edging in front. The justification lies less in the numbers than in the strength of the bonds he has forged. At 54, Klopp has presided over three clubs and attained the status of a demigod at every one. He has never been a mere gun for hire. He is that rare breed, a true football alchemist, whose pomp we should relish while it lasts. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/04/16/jurgen-klopp-footballing-alchemist-manager-like-no/
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    Thiago Alcantara

    Yep, I was shitting my pants when he went off because he was bossing the game. Hopefully, he gets to play in this final as well.
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    Man City - the new bitters?

    Did you forget the 'victims to it all' singing by the players on the flight back from Brighton in 2019 after winning the title? It was plastered all over the internet.
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    Ibrahima Konaté

    I like to see our centre backs head the ball into the oppo's net from a corner. Maybe he can give Joel and Virgil lessons?
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    Man City - the new bitters?

    Fixed that for you.
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    Mohamed Salah

    Love Mo but he's the one saying there's too many distractions. So fucking sort it out Mo. Did your fucking agent post 6 or 7 crying with laughter emoji's after the game then?No? Wonder why that is?
  7. Well we fucking tried our best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory there. Fucking shocking defending in that 2nd half. Keep it tight and do nothing stupid for the first 10-15 minutes starting the 2nd half. Instead, Robbo once again losing possession racing into midfield and banging the pass straight at Fernandinho and is caught out of position. Virgil selling himself short sticking a leg out and within a couple of minutes of the restart, it's game on. I keep saying this, Robbo's composure is lacking and it's starting to do my fucking head in. He was even left for dead for city's 2nd which was pure calamity defending in my view. Why are both our fullbacks racing forwards in the last 20 minutes against this calibre of opposition? But for Alli making another couple of great saves, we'd be looking at extra time or worse after being 3 fucking nil up. I doubt we had another goal in us after Sadio and Diaz went off. Which brings me to Mo. Love the guy but he's fucking grinning ear to ear with every missed opportunity now. Either sort your contract out or Jurgen needs to give him a rest. He had a great chance but put it into the side netting. Another late on, he wanted too many touches or too much time. i thought Oliver was absolute shit. How does Fernandinho not get booked in the first half yet Oliver is dishing cards out to Sadio, Fabinho and Keita for nothing challenges. Then Fernandinho dives in again and he finally books him. He should have been booked twice in the first half. Very relieved to win, my arse let go when that 2nd went it. Oh, and we need to stop shipping goals. Another 2 today even if it is a 'changed' city team. MoTM is a toss up between Sadio, Thiago and Diaz. I'll give it Sadio because he looked sharp and his 2 goals won the game.
  8. Fucking told yous about that keeper! The only bad thing to take from that half is, stop fucking inviting pressure on Alli for fuck's sake. Mo not at the races. Brilliant from Sadio putting the shits up their keeper. Lovely header from Konate, that's what you want to see, headers from corners into the back of the net.
  9. If it would finish high in the PL, how would it be humiliating to lose to it? Asking for a friend.
  10. Reports of Harvey's demise are greatly exaggerated, in my view.
  11. Liverpool: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Konate, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago, Keita, Diaz, Mane, Salah. Subs: Kelleher, Milner, Firmino, Gomez, Henderson, Jones, Jota, Tsimikas, Matip. Bit surprised hendo sits this out. Virgil captain. Diaz a good shout I think, I know some of the lads on the podcast thought not. Keita?Hmmm, come on Naby lad! And Mo!
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    Other Football 2021/22

    I used to work with a manc when this lad was at united. He used to go on and on about how he'd be a better striker than Fowler ever was because he 'had it all.' Yeah, fucking right. I dont know 'where it all' went but wherever it was, it never existed in any great quantity.
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    The 97

    Win today's game for the 97 wo didnt get to Wembley in 1989, boys. They'll be cheering you on from the skies.
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    Jurgen needs to fit a couple of new duracell batteries in him to speed him up!
  15. Totally agree. I find it worse not being able to watch a game we're playing and not attending. In the old days of listening to 2nd half commentary with Bryon Butler and Peter Jones on radio 2, it was fucking agony hearing the words but not seeing the play.
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    Jurgen Norbert Klopp

    An interesting read. Ahead of the second seismic meeting of Liverpool and Manchester City in a week, one issue weighs heavy on the minds of those in charge of England's current pre-eminent clubs: who could possibly succeed their totemic managers? Chris Bascombe and (removed the shit about Guardiola because Im not fucking interested in him!) analyse when Jürgen Klopp and Pep Guardiola might depart their stages in England, and what their employers are doing to prepare for that day. Jürgen Klopp By Chris Bascombe What are the chances of Klopp staying beyond his current contract? Within hours of Liverpool winning their sixth European Cup, Fenway Sports Group’s senior executives were walking through the interview zone at Madrid’s Wanda Metropolitano when they were met with a pressing question. “When are you going to get Klopp to sign another contract?” Klopp still had three years left to run on his existing deal in the summer of 2019, the situation nowhere near as urgent as it will become over the course of the next 18 months, with the manager's contract due to expire in 2024. Nevertheless, FSG had an eye on the long-term as much as here and now. Their immediate answer was - in time - to gently persuade Klopp to extend his terms without exerting pressure but on the understanding when he felt it right, the details would be swiftly drawn up. There was even a tentative willingness to entertain the idea of a sabbatical, with Klopp taking a year out with his family to re-energise, returning after an assistant had kept the engine running. It was unnecessary, with Klopp putting pen to paper six months later. The situation is similar now, albeit there is less time before his deal expires. Fenway have identified who they wish to be in charge beyond the next two years - Klopp himself. One day, his public reticence to continue will be accompanied by a private confirmation that FSG must identify his replacement. Until then, the club will be assessing a volatile market, aware that the ideal successor today may not be in 2024, while others may have emerged over the course of two years. What is the blueprint for the next coach? Liverpool’s criteria will be as it was when recruiting Brendan Rodgers in 2012 and Klopp in 2015. Overperformance metrics are fundamental. They are most impressed by those who shine against teams with bigger salaries and budgets. Klopp was able to make it look like a level playing field against Bayern Munich on the pitch when, off it, that was far from the case. Dortmund have not won the Bundesliga since Klopp left. He has replicated that in England where Manchester United, Chelsea and - obviously - Manchester City’s resources are greater. That is the challenge for a contender like Steven Gerrard. Much as Gerrard and Aston Villa do not want his stint in the Midlands to be regarded as an apprenticeship, if he excels he will obviously be on the shortlist. But no-one knows better than Gerrard he must prove himself more than an emotional choice. On one hand Gerrard needs boardroom backing to underline his credentials at Villa - willingly accepting the ambition to make Philippe Coutinho’s move permanent - yet in some respects there would be more admiration if he led his side to seventh with the 12th-lowest Premier League salary than sixth with the sixth biggest. Again, the overperformance criteria is key. That is why seemingly obvious choices - those who have just won titles in the major European leagues with the biggest salary and recruitment spending - will not necessarily be as attractive as appearances suggest. That said, Liverpool are in a different world than when Rodgers and Roberto Martinez were the leading candidates in 2012. Ten years ago, a coach such as Brighton’s Graham Potter would have been on John W Henry’s radar - all the data pointing to someone who produces a modern brand of football without significant wealth. Liverpool are in a different place now. They will have their pick of the best of the best in 2024 when Klopp goes, able to interview the elite coaches with a recent history of trophy collection. Having said all that, the Liverpool manager’s job is also about more than coaching, and the club are aware that the man who leads the team also has to connect with Anfield emotionally and even politically, given the city has not returned a Conservative MP since 1979. FSG’s due diligence will have to take this into account, which always makes it trickier at Liverpool than at other clubs. But who might emerge over the next two years who will naturally ‘get’ Liverpool? What if Xabi Alonso - currently managing Real Sociedad ‘B’ team - takes a high profile European job and thrives? Which sides might emerge in Germany, Spain and Italy to disrupt the status quo, led by young, vibrant coaches who can pick up Klopp’s baton? Who will lead the search? Michael Gordon and sporting director Julian Ward, who will replace Michael Edwards this summer, will lead, while in the background the data team led by director of research Ian Graham are tasked with keeping a due diligence file on every coach (and players) of interest. Welshman Graham - a Cambridge graduate with a PhD in physics - joined Liverpool in 2012. He had previously worked at Decision Technology, forecasting consumer behaviour to enable businesses to maximise their profits. At Anfield he formed a four-man unit independent of the coaching staff, providing dossiers which have contributed to the club’s successful recruitment policy. Graham tracked Klopp for years and was instrumental in reassuring FSG that he had to be Liverpool’s number one target when the decision was taken to dismiss Rodgers, presenting the owners with a research paper on the German manager’s 10 Bundesliga seasons. For example, Graham’s data regarding Dortmund’s performances showed that a decline in Klopp’s final season in Germany was an anomaly which did not reflect the quality of performances. Liverpool-born Ward has worked alongside Edwards for the last nine years, having previously scouted for Manchester City and the Portugal national team. When Edwards announced he was leaving at the end of this season, FSG confirmed Ward’s promotion. Some might argue Edwards saw a tricky future ahead if Klopp leaves. Finding a successor will be an unenviable task. A more positive appraisal is what better way to choreograph a new sporting director's introduction than to credit him for having convinced Klopp to commit for another two years. Perhaps that is too cynically optimistic. FSG president Gordon is Liverpool’s modern Peter Robinson. Never heard, rarely seen, completely without ego, but smart and resolute when it comes to ‘sticking to the plan’. The relationship of trust between him and Klopp is at the heart of the Anfield revival. You can be sure the more Gordon and Ward are searching and researching, the greater their hope their number one choice - Klopp himself - is seduced by the chance to go beyond his 10th anniversary. As Klopp accepted in 2019, walking away from a dream job, and a dream team, is easier in theory than reality. Is continuity a key consideration? Liverpool will face the same dilemma as Sir John Smith and Peter Robinson in 1974: how do you replace the Godfather of your success? When Bill Shankly stepped aside they found the answer within. Current assistant Pep Lijnders will hope the spirit of boot room transition lives on. There is no suggestion from the top that Lijnders is being primed to be the next Bob Paisley or Joe Fagan, but as someone who knows the training ground drills, and is integral to the culture it would be insane if a Klopp exit triggered a ‘brain drain’ of his backroom staff, especially as so many of the squad have deals beyond 2024 and are so comfortable with the current routines. Klopp will feel responsibility for those whose enduring Anfield employment will rely on him. New managers always tend to bring an army of lieutenants with them, changing the dynamic at the training ground. That is dangerous when so little at Liverpool needs to change. Anything threatening continuity (or as close to it when the main man is no longer around) post 2024 would be dangerous, so the next man must understand and respect that. The hope must be that they are willing and capable of working with those that Klopp leaves behind, and that those who were hired by Klopp will wish to stay if asked. The fact that Klopp is not likely to leave for another job, taking his staff with him, might help. Liverpool had to start again in 2015. If Klopp really does call it quits, there will be no debris to sweep away in 2024. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/04/15/happens-irreplaceable-jurgen-klopp-pep-guardiola-leave/
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    Man City - the new bitters?

    Sporting integrity, that's why!
  18. Fucking weird kick off time of 3:30pm but Jurgen's the one who has 'disrespected' thecup in the past?! Fuck off, the FA do enough to disrespect their own competition.
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    Star Trek - The Shit, or Just Shit?

    After seeing all these types of comments, I watched some of the 5 minute snippets of Picard S2 on You Tube to see what the fuss was about. Fuck me, Stewart looks and sounds really old now and yes I know he's in his 80's. The overriding thing that struck me is that that Jurati's tits look like they're on some form of platform to lift them up. They look fucking weird!
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    Jurgen Norbert Klopp

    The joint managers thing was a shit idea but the club didnt really want to sack Roy at that point as he was a loyal guy respected within the club. I think Roy knew he was on borrowed time when he and Ged were made joint managers. I dont think there was friction between Ged and Roy, just Roy knew he was always going to be the fall guy. I dont think St John, who was a big friend of Roy's, helped the situation by always referring to Ged as 'the frenchman.' There was a good article in the torygraph I posted not long ago about Roy and this joint manager thing. He doesnt seem to bad mouthed Ged but highlighted the players would side with either him or Ged depending what they wanted to hear etc. Basically, I think the club should have made a clean break of it. Seeing Roy in tears during the presser when his resignation was announced is horrible to watch.
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    Other Football 2021/22

    Watching the Huddersfield v QPR game and a golf ball just been removed from the pitch. Seriously, who the fuck goes the game with a golf ball in their pocket thinking I'll lob this at one of the twats if I get the chance?!