jimmycase

Well the proof of the pudding is in the eating and Im even less sure why the NFL franchise system is used as a comparision to football clubs and, their relegation \ promotion that can impact a club's 'price.'

But the fact remains and is supported in that position, that mega rich owners tend to buy run down or smaller clubs.

The major exception to that is, as Ive said numerous times previously, when the glazers 'bought' united. They were already top of the pile and worth more than any other club in England by some considerable amount.

Do we give up hope of ever being sold to an owner with deep pockets then? If you're right then all the new buyers will be looking at teams that generally finish below us and turning them into teams that finish above us, will be just keep slipping down until we are considered the cheap option for an ambitious owner in like 30 years once it's all come full circle?

Depends if you see getting an owner with 'deep pockets' as the panacea to the perceived problems with the club. Then, there's the issue would such an owner treat the club as his \ her personal play thing like mansour at city never mind would they spend their personal wealth to the level of some fan's expectations.

Of all the clubs that have been sold, only one to my knowledge has been sold for mega money, manchester united. So, I think on the balance of probability any new mega rich person or conglomerate will buy a smaller club and spend money building that up.

Jimny - honest question how many mega rich people do you know?

Im aware of many mega rich people in the world, same as you. I dont know anyone personally and I dont see any of them rushing to buy football club's right now, you?

But that's not the point. Abramovich bought chelsea for about £80m, shinawatra bought city for about £150m and mansour bought the club off him for around £200m (I think). Im not sure how much the qatarii's bought psg for. How much has moshiri paid for his near 50% stake in the shite?

We don't need any bigger than 60k because 4 or 5 games a season excepted we won't fill it!

 

We're not the bad Mancs, and the prices are too high now to attract new local support!

Ah, that old chestnut. We've just added 8 thousand seats and the stadium is effectively sold out for all PL and the CL games it's hosted to date.

Well, I was open to moving to a new build stadium that matched our ambitions and status back in the late 80's but Al Edge and a few others mounted an Anfield4Eva campaign with website. They managed to sway many fans with their 'souless bowl' argument and even had meetings with david moores.

I think that option is not so much dead but extinct now!

Hard to get my head around the figures.

 

On the one hand 1 billion is an outstanding amount of money, somebody must be daft to want to fork over that much for a football club, especially when like has been noted you could get a Newcastle for less than half that, give Rafa some spending money and ensure they stay top flight and you'll be sorted.

 

But then 1 billion is 5 neymars, maybe 4 if you include wages, you can get Liverpool football club, with all the players, the stadium and all the the other infrastructure and business that comes with it.

 

So how much are we actually worth?

It's the old answer, worth as much as someone would pay to buy. I'll be majorly surprised if anyone is willing to pay a billion for virtually any club, mega rich people prefer to build something virtually from scratch rather than a turn key purchase.

Different financiers such as Deloitte, KPMG and Forbes etc use different formulas to value clubs and businesses but it wouldnt surprise me if the paper value of the club is near £800m - £1bn.

Is there any barrier to the Centenary/Dalglish Stand and ARE being developed into a similar size as the Main?

 

I was at the Sevilla game a few weeks and it was the first time I've seen the new Main Stand in the flesh. I have to say, I was dead impressed.

KD stand yes. You've got Skerries Road full of occupied houses right behind it. Im no engineer but it may be possible to jack the entire roof up and stick another 10 rows on it. I just cannot see massive redevelopment of a relatively new stand myself.

ARE there's outline planning permission to extend. This is likely the only via extension of Anfield left due to the large empty space behind the current stand.

I watch a lot of Serie A, apart from Juve and Napoli on current form the top 5 wouldnt batter us. But Can would be suited to the pace of football there.

Sunday manc wank story alert.

His ability on the ball is very good... The way brings the ball out reminds me a little of them German liberos from the 90s. Did you watch the video I posted earlier?

Seriously!?

Harry fucking macguire is a fucking yard dog. How anyone can think he'd be even level with matip and lovren is beyond me.

It doesnt matter who we have at the back, even jamie carragher who you think would know a thing or two about defending has said as much. We ask our defenders to play a high back line and appear to ask them all to push forward.You're always going to be susceptible to getting caught out. Even macguire got caught out on a leicester attack when we played them in the league.

Neither do I think we need a whole new back 5 etc, etc. Unless we adopt a more defensive strategy to games, we'll continue to conceed goals whether we have a new keeper, back 4 and defensive MF.

Watched the Scotland game, very impressed with Skrtel, I was wishing we hadn't sold him, then he scored the own goal and I remembered why.

Looked like he was attempting to block a ball at the near post come shot and got the last touch.

All the media always say its a Skrtel og in such situations. Fuck me, even the Havant & Waterloo lad scores but Skrtel get's the last touch again and it's his og. If it had been against united or someone else it wouldnt have been credited as an og.

His favourite team as a boy might have been Liverpool but I bet he wants to go somewhere else when push comes to shove.

Gini like a few others, needs to find his mojo pretty fucking quick, in my opinion, of course.

Do they pick the eleven worst players, is that how it works?

Take away the non English players in the PL and you likely have the shit that is left. Didnt harry wank \ winks or whatever get a call up? How many times has he played in the PL?

How anyone can say Salah is massively wasteful in front of goal, is without parody.

Bayern set to announce 72 year old Jupp Heynckes as manager according to Bild. Looks like an interim appointment to the end of the season reading between the lines as you wouldnt really expect a 72 year old to want to return to front line management for the next 2 or 3 years.

Did you make your mind up from all his two starts for liverpool ? 

Well, you seem to make your mind up before a player has even appeared for Liverpool so, what's your point?

Serie A is a 'slower,' less physical game than the PL. Luis Alberto looked out of his depth in the PL. Aspas was pretty woeful for us as well but is flourishing back in La Liga.

Inter didnt rate Coutinho. It happens, some players are shit at one club and come good at another.

Well Jimmy we should see what it's all about in the near future hopefully. Rightly or wrongly he will need to win the fans over seemingly more than other payers had to, that is because of the distinct lack of desire in signing him from a lot of our fans. Me included. I truly hope he proves me wrong, genuinely.

Yeah I can understand that. I frequently used to go "why has benitez signed him?" The way I look at it is this: We had played 3 PL games before we signed him. We've now played 7. That means we've played PL 4 games and he's made a couple of cameo appearances in some of them.

I just think it's too early to be saying why isnt he in the team but that's just my point of view.

It's fucking insane Jimmy, Makes you wonder how much Suarez, a young Torres and King Kenny would be worth nowadays

Totally agree. I can remember when a £60,000 transfer fee was considered massive. Now even squad players in the PL can earn that and more in a week!

He needs to be given a chance in the position he must have sought when he signed, surely we never bought him as a Jack of all trades and surely he never agreed to be one. I don't know what Klopp wants do with him like yourself but I would imagine he was given assurances he seemingly wasn't given by Chelsea.

Well, that's where I disagree. No player needs to be given a chance to play in LFC's first team. They have to earn that position. Yes, it may be that so far he hasnt earnt that position but I dont see 5 games since we signed him as being a major issue.

To be honest Jimmy taking into account his cost compared to how long he had on his contract, his PL experience and international status I think people might expect him to be straight in the team.

Even those who never wanted him might expect that.

He isn't a kid, he will probably start for England.

Fair comment although the way transfer fees had gone by the time we did buy him (and we paid the price arsenal had agreed with chelsea), I wouldnt say £35m was a massive amount.

But it's clear from Klopp's comments he wanted him. Im not party to Klopp's thoughts but Im guess the fact Ox Chambers didnt go through our pre season conditioning regime and the fact the team is kind of struggling right now, he maybe considers it is not the best time to chuck him in.

I still dont see the panic just because he's only made a couple of sub appearances so far. I mean it's not like Benitez regularly played Keane when we bought him for a similarly (then) large fee.

Its just fucking willy waving, isnt it? Madrid wanting to show they can spend stupid amounts of money while barcelona had to sell a player for an equally stupid amount. No doubt psg will be along in a minute to show they can spend a similarly big amount despite threats of UEFA sanctions.

Was he trying out his stage name for when he started, er, acting!?