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11 hours ago, Ne Moe Imya said:
How, precisely, do you propose that we 'stop more innocents losing their lives?'
Maybe you missed this, but the world tried the "give Putin the portion of Ukraine he's already conquered in order to make peace" thing in Minsk in 2014.
The deal was this - Putin, you (and your proxies) get to keep Crimea and a portion of the Donbass. In exchange, both parties agree to stop shelling each other. Sounds like they "faced facts to stop more innocents from losing their lives," right?
It lasted 7 months. Just enough time for Putin to reconstitute his army and launch another offensive in January 2015. Putin captured some more territory and Ukraine, desperate to "stop more innocents losing their lives," agreed to peace AGAIN. This was known as "Minsk 2," and was ratified by both parties in February 2015.
Putin's proxies then declared that "the peace agreement doesn't apply to this particular piece of the frontline" and went on an assault again. Ukraine responded, not with military action but by passing a law that gave the Donbass special political status with more independence, as Putin claimed he had wanted.
So Russia responded by moving in more heavy artillery and killing 430 Ukrainian soldiers. And then in March 2016 the Russian Foreign Minister announced that Russia was "not a party to the Minsk 2 agreement" and then a few years later, after a massive Russian campaign to build loyalty in Ukraine and a huge military buildup, they carried out the full-scale invasion of Feb 2022.
I am utterly mystified by anyone whose response to the above facts (which no one, including the Russians, dispute) is "you know what we should do? Give Putin what he wants to 'stop innocents losing their lives.'"
Giving Putin what he wants (a negotiated settlement that allows him to keep control of the Ukrainian territory he has invaded) is precisely what will lead to more innocents losing their lives, you absolute cretin.
Shoe me where anyone has suggested "give Putin what he wants?
Why do you tell lies?
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3 minutes ago, Arniepie said:
"But exiting the EU has left the UK with several additional problems - products no longer flow as smoothly across the borders with the EU, and in the long term our struggles to approve as many medicines might mean we have fewer alternatives available."
'They don't flow as smoothly" oh well....Thankfully no deaths, a lot of inconvenience for certain drugs for certain ailments. Mainly ADHD.
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7 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:
Twas a news report and unfrotunately the "disproving" of it seems to have disappeared.
Here is another news report:
An Israeli response, however, would test the durability of an informal coalition of awkward bedfellows, including Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, whose recent cooperation against Iran has the potential to be damaging on the home front, analysts say.
“Those Arab countries are in a very critical situation,” said Oraib Al Rantawi, director of the Al Quds Center for Political Studies, a think tank based in Jordan’s capital, Amman. “There is no easy position to take for all of them, especially Jordan, which for geopolitical reasons has found itself trapped between two troublemakers — Iran and Israel.”
Not sure why it would be news in India, but it is:
Er OK. If that source makes you feel better then you believe it. I'd say this is both process and source with you, so by your own mark you've hit a double. Well done.
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41 minutes ago, M_B said:
Russia will win by pausing the war to considate its gains in eastern Ukraine and rebuild its armed forces. Then in 3 to 5 years time Putin will attempt to grab some more land in Ukraine and more innocents will die.
If peace includes Ukraine joining NATO then fine - I suspect Ukraine would accept that at this point - but the Russians won't allow that because their intention is to annex the entire country.
The fact you need to face is Putin wants to end Ukraine's existance and will kill a lot of innocents to achieve it.
Ok, a lot of guesswork there. Not saying you're wrong but I'm not so sure Putin or the Russians would welcome another disaster such as this anytime soon.
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11 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:
It could also be your process.
Either sources or process.
OK ta.
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10 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:
That you were not right unfortunately. Or the source you use is incorrect. Again.
In 2022 Russian oil and gas accounted for approximately 40% of total revenue, today that figure is approx 24%
It is fairly easy to find this stuff - it takes about 30 seconds. I think it might be your sources.
Er OK mate cheers for that ta. Game of catch is it? Can I have a go? You the numbskull trying to spread fake news again over the Israeli thread on the Saudis the other day?
Shame you didn't spend 10 minutes on that one eh?
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51 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:
I think Germany easily lost most as they were heavily reliant on the Ruskies for energy.
It takes a village:
Q4 2023 Reuters-
High levels of gas storage, lower energy prices and new sources of fuel mean Europe is heading into a second winter with scarce Russian gas in a more comfortable position than a year ago.After decades of relying on Russia to supply cheap gas, resuming that dependency became more unlikely than ever following the explosions a year ago today that hit the Nord Stream pipelines running under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany.Before Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the Nord Stream 1 pipeline had accounted for 15% of Europe's gas imports in 2021, according to the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies.Now prices are much lower. European gas benchmark the front month contract on the Dutch Title Transfer Facility is trading at around 40 euros compared with 180 euros a year ago."Our biggest risk was that Russia can manipulate our energy markets," EU Energy Commissioner Kadri Simson told Reuters. "They don't have this leverage any more."Germany:Germany imported 55% of its gas from Russia at the time, and many argued that the embargo would crush Germany’s economy. Before Germany could act, Russian began cutting the flow of gas to Germany, eventually halting it entirely. A new BPEA paper studied the effects of this abrupt change and found that the consequences were not as dire as many experts feared it would be.Your point being?
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Global manufacturing, covid, war in Ukraine has led to a global shortage. Plus increasing inflation hasn't helped, nor have our governments lack of contingency plans. The main shortage in this country are drugs to treat ADHD.
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7 minutes ago, SasaS said:
Your grannys face with the rifle up her arse.
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9 minutes ago, SasaS said:
Since you ask, it wasn't, I didn't think you would know.
And speaking of old tired jibes etc., you should get a license for this complete lack of self-awareness, because it's really a lethal weapon.
Why did you ask then you pathetic little cunt? War expert? You should get a license for being totally wrong on almost everything on a regular basis. As you were once again in your last but one post It still doesn't stop you blowing smoke up your own arse. You're probably the most pompous prick to grace the internet. Probably with shares in the war machine. A coward who loves to talk a good game but happy to let others do the fighting. The closest you've ever got to seeing action was stumbling in to see the boys at army cadets ramming the butt end of a rifle up your granny's arse. A two bob cunt who thinks he's a dollar.
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40 minutes ago, TheSire said:
Who gives a fuck about their lives? Our bills have gone up!
The 650,000 plus Ukrainians who've ducked out of fighting? Do they give a fuck?
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23 minutes ago, SasaS said:
Our of curiosity, how much gas was UK importing from Russia through Nordstream? I seem to recall reading UK was among the countries least reliant on Russia imports overall.
If that's directed at me and you're not going to throw around the same old tired jibes because an article upsets I will reply. The answer to your question is I don't know. I think Germany easily lost most as they were heavily reliant on the Ruskies for energy. I haven't got the figures to hand as on phone. Its probably the reason the German economy is doing as badly as ours. Now try to park your pomposity at the gate.
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15 minutes ago, TheSire said:
Who gives a fuck about their lives? Our bills have gone up!
You might not be so flippant if it was a member of your family who died through hypothermia and/or the effects of the cost of living crisis. Of course it doesn't effect those who have the means to ride out the increased outlay.
It's perfectly reasonable for people who are now realising it was a mistake to get swept away in hyperbole who now ask sober questions on our strategy towards this war. It doesn't make them KGB agents. Unless you still think like a fourteen year old schoolkid. I hardly think the likes of such luminaries as the Pope are working for Russian intelligence. I think he's wrong on UKraine but it doesn't make him a spy. Although he'd be called worse than that if he shared his views on this thread.
Anyway I'm off out so Insert any glib stupid comments below.
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He's been a bit unlucky with bad people, they must follow him around.
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Salt of the earth.
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More high jinks. Here comes the mandatory dog.
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He got a good bit of form'. Rent boys and methadone.
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8 hours ago, TheSire said:
It's the war with Russia causing all of our problems!
It's by no means causing all our problems but it's a huge factor. The blowing up of Nordstream was particularly reckless.
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2 hours ago, Ne Moe Imya said:
How, precisely, do you propose that we 'stop more innocents losing their lives?'
Maybe you missed this, but the world tried the "give Putin the portion of Ukraine he's already conquered in order to make peace" thing in Minsk in 2014.
The deal was this - Putin, you (and your proxies) get to keep Crimea and a portion of the Donbass. In exchange, both parties agree to stop shelling each other. Sounds like they "faced facts to stop more innocents from losing their lives," right?
It lasted 7 months. Just enough time for Putin to reconstitute his army and launch another offensive in January 2015. Putin captured some more territory and Ukraine, desperate to "stop more innocents losing their lives," agreed to peace AGAIN. This was known as "Minsk 2," and was ratified by both parties in February 2015.
Putin's proxies then declared that "the peace agreement doesn't apply to this particular piece of the frontline" and went on an assault again. Ukraine responded, not with military action but by passing a law that gave the Donbass special political status with more independence, as Putin claimed he had wanted.
So Russia responded by moving in more heavy artillery and killing 430 Ukrainian soldiers. And then in March 2016 the Russian Foreign Minister announced that Russia was "not a party to the Minsk 2 agreement" and then a few years later, after a massive Russian campaign to build loyalty in Ukraine and a huge military buildup, they carried out the full-scale invasion of Feb 2022.
I am utterly mystified by anyone whose response to the above facts (which no one, including the Russians, dispute) is "you know what we should do? Give Putin what he wants to 'stop innocents losing their lives.'"
Giving Putin what he wants (a negotiated settlement that allows him to keep control of the Ukrainian territory he has invaded) is precisely what will lead to more innocents losing their lives, you absolute cretin.
You choose not read the words written but the words you want to read. You cannot reason in good faith. I gave up with your bullshit after the "your proxies" line.
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Another one!! Fucking hell.
Remember Lee Anderson describing those who worked for the BBC as a bunch of pervs, he was Conservative party chairman.
Can't read the full article as its paywall but the snippets are bad enough. What a fucking party, from tractor man watching porn in the commons to this. And a lot of rapes in-between
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In 2022 Russian oil and gas accounted for approximately 40% of total revenue, today that figure is approx 24%
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7 hours ago, M_B said:
Russia should have no trouble winning then with its booming economy and superior armed forces.
Russia is going to win jack shit. Unfortunately neither are Ukraine. Its time to face facts and stop more innocents losing their lives.
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1 hour ago, TheSire said:
Its practically all just the military industry though. They're producing a lot of weapons and ammo etc.
A lot of it is. A lot of it is we've made them become more self sufficient. We've pushed them into a corner which has brought them closer to China (again not very smart in the long term on our part) Brics is getting larger. More money is staying in local economy More home grown businesses have taken the place of the Western ones which have left. The people also have a history of resilience (as do the Ukrainians) the war effort is undoubtedly a factor but as the article says their economy is predicted to stay strong till the end of the decade.
In other economic news, for what it's worth, the IMF has put four countries on alert for overspending. America, Britain, Italy and China. China have spent billions on infrastructure and new rail networks so at least they've something to show for it. I thought Canada and Germany were also on that IMF list but it must've been a different article unless I'm mistaken. All four countries have their own currency so can print their own money and borrow off themselves bar Italy who are at a disadvantage as they are tied to the Euro.
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House at the centre of the Angela Rayner controversy.
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Israel - A Rant
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The far right supremacy nutjobs are only concerned if those being squatting have blue eyes and blond hair. Just look at the Ukrainian thread