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Shaqiri as the wide forward wouldn't be worst idea IMHO. But for my money absolutely no to Origi or Sturrudge for that matter - i'd rather change the formation than shoehorn either of them into a 3.

Assuming no Firmino, who makes up the 3 in his place?

They are starting to get giddy - one win v total shite and the power shift is back on

Good result for tonight - always nice when they come into derby full of themselves.

Could have legs that!

Its like the old higsonians beer mat collectors club in here!

Have they actually rested players tonight and brought in players who have not played in months? After a 17 day rest since last game....all to save players for Sunday....? Small time twats.

To be fair to the bizzies they did leave them their anti-depressants for the journey home.

It is a big European away for them....understandable that they have got a bit over excited - especially with their cup final at weekend as well.

For my money using Salah and Mane as a two has to be much better than trying to shoehorn Origi, Sturridge or fucking Lallana into a 3. Play an extra midfielder behind them.

He could just as easily be out until April given Klopp's usual form when making these kind of statements.

Remind me of the formation that evening?

This is a real test of Klopp tactically now. If he just sticks Origi or Sturridge or even fucking Lallana in and ask the front 3 to play as 'usual' then we are likely in trouble. For me it needs a formation tweak to manage without Firmino.

It was OK, not great IMO. The scene discussing gambling was pretty good

Gonna be stuck out in Africa most of this summer to with that AFCON shite as is Mane. Disrupted pre seasons - extra games in dead hot conditions...not good.

He really is - enjoying his stuff. Problem is there is a whole generation who have grown up now knowing no different to the shite that the game has become and even worse who don't care that TV is ruining things/don't care that players earn millions a year. Our game away at Southampton being moved to a Friday night for example when nobody can get back at a decent hour/if at all....have to have a day off work to go etc.....as long as they can stand in pub and watch it, or watch at home they don't care. His voice is one that sadly won't resonate with the sky generation

We seem to be at crossed purposes. We all know the first choice forwards had a poor game yesterday anf have been a bit up and down lately.....nobody is really on it every single week (maybe Messi and that preening prick at Juventus aside) The problem is that when our first choice attackers are struggling or are out we have nothing in reserve, because the back up is always shite, because it adds nothing. It is totally incompatible to how we like to play, it is miles off the level we need and it lets us down time and time again. We know the front 3 will have poor games/be out at times/need a rest etc.....we should be able to expect something from their replacements - their replacements offer us nothing and have offered us nothing far too many times.

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Furry muff. Can't argue with that!

We need an upturn in form and soon. First 19 games we got 51 pts at an average of 2.68 per game. A totally unrealistic ask to keep going at that rate to be fair but in the 8 since we have gained 15 an average of 1.88 a game - some drop off, that. This under 2 pts a game form in 2nd half of season so far if we stay at or around this rate for the entire 2nd half of season would see us end up on about 87pts - nowhere near enough to hold off City.

I was talking generally, mate - based on what they do (or more to point don't do) when called upon. One of them may well start on Wednesday for example and that fact alone is cause for concern.

Almost certainly would have run as far if not further too.

I'm talking generally about our options to change in attack/cover injuries. It is miles away from what it needs to be and the options we call on simply can't be trusted to deliver at all....they are also hugely incompatible with how we play - we need to find another way of playing when we are forced to use them possibly, that is one for Klopp to decide on of course.

Yes Salah was poor today, but he has of course been brilliant largely for nearly two seasons. The duds on the bench have done fuck all for years - one is a total has been who can barely run, the other a never was who was cast aside for Solanke - and the fact that we still have to call on them and watch them add nothing over and over again all this time down the line is IMO just wrong. It is a real shame as Klopp is boss and has done a great job so far but he has for me a massive blindspot and has made a total clusterfuck of our attacking options outside the 3 starters.

Playing as badly in a game or two and being generally as bad as are two very different things. The gulf in ability and in particular the abililty to function in our side between the 3 starters in attack and the absolute shite on the bench to cover them is huge.