William Morris

Did I dream it or did he actually captain the under 18s when he was still only 15? Seem to recall he did.

I'm not sure it was just on the break that they caused us problems last season, unlike the previous one where the scoreline flattered them slightly I thought, not that we played well like. They certainly did have a reputation for counter attacking and it did/does suit their style - they'd recently won 1-0 at Southampton with 29% of the play. I thought they took the game to us and it may even have taken us by surprise and, I don't think we could have argued if they'd been about 4-1 up at HT. Just after they went 2-0 up the stats showed they'd had over 60% of the possession at that stage. It's hard to see how a team can be described as 'counter attacking' if it has over 60% of the possession. I suspect counter attack will be their policy today though and, as Dave says, it's important that we score first. Then they will have to worry about OUR counter attacks.

Speaking as someone who is old enough to remember the height of the rivalry between the 2 clubs, which was pretty much as big as it is with Man U now and, temporarily at least, bigger than it was with Everton after they went downhill post 1970 title winning team, I have to say I quite like Leeds and hope they get back in the Prem some time soon. I hated them at the time like but, there have been some strange, irritating little teams in the Prem in recent years and I'd rather see the likes of Leeds in it than them. The dirty Leeds thing was deffo true, but less true against Liverpool than everyone else (there was often absolute bedlam when they played Everton.) The respect between Revie and Shankly was so huge that the same respect filtered down to the players and although they weren't exactly gentlemen when they played us, it never got too bad. Well not until that Charity Shield game anyway by which time Revie was gone and Shankly was on his way. Fucked if I'm gonna waste any hatred on a team who aren't in our division at the moment while such a vile club as Chelsea exist, not to mention the other usual suspects.

Canos was very poor I thought for most of last season though he showed some improvement towards the end. He has now shown a massive improvement and, played a big part in taking the game to them in the 2nd half before being subbed due to playing last night too. I thought we were overpowered as much as anything in the 1st half and it almost looked like they were from an older ager group. Quite a brave, well earned point in the end I thought.

You fucking look for it then. I'd have been more than negged if I'd have started looking for semi pornographic music videos at the moment. Besides, I don't care cos I've already seen it. ;)

There is a far FAR raunchier version of this video out there somewhere.

Although past Liverpool teams in general don't get enough credit from the media post premiership and Sky era, I actually DO think the 88 team in particular, gets plenty of credit from Liverpool fans. I'd say most regard it as being our best ever side, even though, as if to defeat my own argument, I personally would still regard the 79 team as our best ever. It's a shame though, that the whole of Europe were denied the chance to see our late 80s team take on that fantastic Milan side.

Once upon a time, the rag and bone man really did used to collect bones as well as rags! I've no idea why, what did he do with them? All seems a bit sinister to me.

I've lost count of the number of times over the years, so it's far from being a recent problem, where we have a player injured but who we are told has "a chance" of being fit for whatever the next game is. Said player then fails to play in the next game. Or the one after and, sometimes not for quite a few weeks. I'm not criticising anyone, I just think it's a bit weird tbh and, VERY frustrating for us as fans who then get our hopes up for fuck all.

We were on a fantastic run at the time and continued it almost until the end of the season. But we lost the penultimate game at title winning Derby. Yet as it turned out, if we'd won our final game at Arsenal we'd still have been champions due to favourites Leeds losing (or was it drawing?) at Wolves I think. These 2 games were taking place on the same night and I was glued to the radio, knowing that Leeds were in the process of blowing it. So all we needed to do was get a goal at Arsenal. Then with about 2 mins to go, we did get one. For the first time in his life, a young William Morris touched the ceiling, so high did he manage to leap. By the time I'd landed, referee Roger Kirkpatrick had disallowed it and the dream was over as it finished 0-0. They say you have to lose one before you can win one, something which I hope at the present time isn't true. But I think we all knew then that it was only a matter of time. And so it turned out.

I suppose it wasn't the end of the world for him but, it was a fucking nuisance the way, as Dave describes, his goals in both League Cup and UEFA cup finals weren't match winners when they really should have been. If I'm remembering this right, in his last game for us second time round we were playing Charlton at home and struggling and trailing to them. He was subbed near the end and we promptly got a pen which he would almost certainly have taken. Thus depriving him of a final farewell goal in front of The Kop. As I say, not the end of the world but all just a bit irritating and disappointing for him and us.

Regarding one of the comments below the article....Paul Walsh didn't get brought down for the pen btw. An almost inexplicable hand ball near the edge of the box, possibly by Moran was the reason it was awarded. Brilliant though the other goal was, it was deffo even better in my memory. For a start it began with him virtually putting Whiteside in row Z when he won the ball. He also ran further, beat more men and shot from further out. Should have kept it a secret Jan.

I can also remember the Everton supporters in the Anny that didn't vanish, celebrating like loons when we then missed the penalty. Which was in about the 92nd minute while they were losing 1-0. Must have been a great moment for them.

When the team is as cynical as one of Mourinho's, even the player assigned to make the challenge might well be pre selected. OK fair enough, those stats suggest it would have made no difference anyway but, if one of their hatchet men had made that challenge, a normal ref might have seen it differently. When it's an attacker who everyone just assumes can't defend so it's not really his fault, he is more likely to be given the benefit of the doubt. Something someone like Mourinho will be well aware of.

Graham Alcock? I think that was his name anyway. Remember when Paolo Di Canio pushed him? The way he went down in stages. Now THAT was theatrical.

I suppose it depends on your definition of corruption. If he is going in to Liverpool games with an agenda, the agenda being Suarez dives so he's getting fuck all, then he is automatically unfit to ref any game with Suarez in it. All decisions regarding all players have to be judged on their own individual merits, regardless of what's happened in the past. You'd think after doing it once at the Chelsea game, when he went home and seen it on telly and realised how wrong he was, he'd be determined to learn from his mistake. But no, not Howard, he does EXACTLY the same thing again. Whether that fits your definition of corruption or not is up to you, but it is enough to warrant people asking serious questions of him. If he has an opinion on what Suarez is like and refs accordingly, then he has more or less corrupted himself, the massive fucking bent shithouse twat!

Just responding to the bit where Dave points out the fact we've always played it out from the back. Yeah but not since the days when the keeper could pick up back passes have we done it from as deep as we do now and as often as we do now. Back then the goalie being able to pick it up was an easy way out if teams dared to press us, now we can't do that and the current goalie is nervous as fuck with the ball at his feet. I do want us to play football from the back but the players have got to be good enough to do it and, I'm not seeing any Hansen's or Lawrensons back there. It's even more frustrating in games like yesterdays when after arsing around at the back for a bit, thus shredding our nerves as we wait for something to go wrong, we then launch it and lose possession anyway. What was the point?

Johnson played really well against Man U early in the season. Obviously I know he then got injured but even so, he's been dreadful every time he's played since then. He was also awful for most of the back end of last season. Partly because we know what he is capable of, I'd say he is the player who annoys me more than anyone at the moment.

Judging by how mad the league has been up to now, I'd say we COULD finish 3rd - I'm convinced the big, talented squads of City and Chelsea will see them pull away, so the top 2 is very unlikely. But if 3rd is possible, so is 5th or even 6th, it really is that tight with a clutch of well matched teams all fighting for too few places. So I'd bite your hand off if offered 4th now.

There was one occasion when there was a little bit of open dissent from The Kop aimed at Kenny for not picking him. Nothing vitriolic or anything like that, this was Kenny Dalglish after all. Just that before one game for which he'd been dropped, a long and loud chant of "there's only one Paul Walsh" went up. A minor reminder to Kenny that we thought he deserved to be in the team at that time. Very good player, Luis Garcia reminded me a bit of him.

With Gerrard now presumably about to miss a game or two, it's more important than ever for us to be able to make use of the squad, so it was good to see some who either haven't played of late, or haven't played well, doing better. The weak squad that Rodgers has moaned about would actually look stronger if Suso and Coady were in it. I understand the need for them to be getting experience and actual game time but, I do wonder if loaning them out if the manager himself thinks the squad is weak, was wise. Also, instead of relying on back up players who tend to let us down, Moses in particular, wouldn't it be worth giving Teixeira go? He is impressive every time now for the 21s and, had possibly his best game yet against Villa last week when he made everything count instead of trying to do too much on his own like he often had in the past. He's nearly 21 apparently and hasn't been in the 1st team squad yet, so if he is to have any chance of making it here you'd imagine he is going to have to make some sort of breakthrough soon. I think McLaughlin is injured at the moment but he is another one who must be on the verge of being included in the squad, if nothing else his presence might provide a rocket up the arse of the massively inconsistent Johnson. I'm not calling for them all to be included at once and, I know it's probably not possible to get the loanees back anyway, but that's 4 players who would make our "weak" squad look better than it does at the moment. I suppose I've no idea if they'll actually solve any problems if/when they are included but, my point is, could they be any worse than players like Moses who as I said earlier, let us down every time they play?

Not for the 1st time I find myself wondering just where the ESPN website gets its readership from looking at some of the replies. Loved the one from the feller who helpfully pointed out that Big Sam didn't actually sign all our shite to do us a favour after all. Here's me thinking Dave was serious too until I read that.

Was highly amused when Shilton said he lost all respect for The Kop after he got slaughtered by us for his "Tina" indiscretions. As if he was in any position to talk about respect after what he did to his missus and family. I thought there wasn't much between Shilton and Clemence with Clem having the edge for the first half of their respective careers. Although that turns apiece thing for England was all a bit of a nonsense, they were so close you could maybe understand why it was hard to choose between them. But the press/media were so desperate to see Shilton made permanent number one I actually thought it affected Clemence and, he had a spell where he looked a nervous wreck at times playing for England. Then I also have to admit, there was a 2 year spell when Forest might as well have had a brick wall built across their goal for all the chance you had to get the ball past him - or so it seemed. I didn't like him at all, or the way he made relatively straightforward saves look harder than they were, hence we tended to call him a poser. But despite everything, he was fucking good.

Sorry for not being aws :D and I don't mean this as a criticism of Banks, but I thought Jennings was far better than him, with Shilton being better too and, Clem and Southall probably being his equal. Of course Banks was great but he was judged by many on that save from the Pele header alone, plus, he was for reasons I can't recall, massively popular with the Kop which might also affect Liverpool fans opinions of him favourably. I'd like to know how the Kop's love affair with him began as it was a bit more than the good reception's virtually all goalies got.

Think it was the year Crisp started running through treacle near the end of the race, allowing Red Rum to storm through. Jennings was the only goalie who regularly used to catch the ball one handed in circumstances where everybody else would punch.