Jairzinho

It's much worse. Everton at least have a reason for their delusion, they don't win anything.

Yeah, I agree. Very strong top three, with Leverkusen and also Gladbach as well. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Wolfsburg and Frankfurt go far in the Europa league. It always seems the most balanced league between technical, physical and tactical aspects of the game. It helps that most of the clubs aren't complete basket cases. Certainly in comparison to clubs in other top leagues. Fucking Germans, organising things well.

Yep, I read that too quickly.

Yes, they have. And the team 10 and 12 points respectively behind them beat us last week. A team one point ahead of Getafe. Anyone that watched Bayern tear Chelsea limb from limb on Tuesday could presumably make similar comments about the Premier League. But basing stuff like this on one game would obviously be a bit stupid. What has happened with La Liga is actually quite similar to the Premier League. All the big teams are in transition (bar us) and some of the smaller teams have improved a bit (Getafe, Real Sociedad, Villarreal, Leicester, Wolves, Sheffield United - these aren't great teams by any stretch, but games against them are no longer a walk in the park for teams that should be above them). Who are the really good teams in any leagues? Us and...maybe Bayern. Although they're not exactly miles ahead of Leipizig and Dortmund in their own league. Lazio and Inter have improved to challenge Juventus, but neither are great sides. Ligue 1 is still poor bar PSG, which is part of the reason they fuck up in Europe every year. We seem to be at something of a general malaise in Europe's top leagues. Thankfully, we're the outlier. We're the one club doing everything right.

Every Real Madrid player, and the entire league, is terrible because they lost 2-1 to Manchester City. It's the Ardja way.

They won't win it, Tony.

Thought sticking Bale out of the left was an absolutely fantastic way of ensuring he did fuck all. Top stuff, Zinedine.

They're singing "Fuck UEFA" actually, "Fletch".

Quite impressive the speed and magnitude of Real Madrid's bed shitting.

Unlike Manchester City?

Yes, it's hard to describe how utterly stupid that was.

Bayern would batter them everywhere.

Get Bale on.

That 1%/2% differs enormously by age though, no? Lots of old people are going to die.

Villarreal have got Moreno at left back. It was inevitable their lead wouldn't last.

@ZonkoVille77 We're fuckin' shite.

They won 3-1.

It was a weak European Cup overall last season. Almost meaningless, like this year's league.

Yeah, I think they're probably the second best team in the world.

That the Brexit plan?

He's thick as shit as well, isn't he?

"Are you flexible enough to get your head in the sand? My suspicion would be no. I can, you can't."

Everton and United are two points behind us. As are Arsenal and Tottenham. We still have a third of the season left. What in the fuck?

Agreed, it's incredible. How in the fuck did we drop points against United?

That and skipping leg day for about 15 years.