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It’s 8 years on now and it’s a traceable moment to 52 percent of the country voting to throw the country in the bin, for reasons they didn’t understand. I went to bed that night being sure common sense would prevail, and I remember getting the train to work in the morning feeling utterly devastated about it and what it was going to mean. The sooner we can reverse as much as this farce as possible the better

Think the ‘was hitler right’ is an unhelpful distraction from the original conversation. Of course not and no right minded person would actually think that.

In the same way that no right minded person would use a religion, Judaism, as a cover for what Zionism is which is Neo colonialism based on perceived supremacy over another people. All under the cover of ‘anti-semitism’ if called out on this behaviour.

Israel and Zionism does not equal the Jewish cause and thankfully there are lots of non brainwashed Jewish people who recognise the obvious distinction. Rachel Riley isn’t one of them, and clearly neither are the defenders of her racist actions and intent on this forum.

To make clear if you support or defend words and behaviour like this, you are a racist and a bigot. It’s that simple.

And no amount of trying to deflect, or whataboutery will change that fact.

6 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

She didn't attribute anyting to Islamic extremism, she didn't conflate anything with peaceful marches, and it is an absolute fact that some people have been calling for a global Intifada.

 

You're just making things up now.

You are aware that lying about something or not wanting it to be factual doesn’t mean it’s not true?

5 minutes ago, Strontium said:

"Her words speak for themselves... which is why I have to put a particular spin on them to make them fit my prejudices about her as a person"

it was ‘words, actions and behaviour's’.

Like, for example, using an event, attributing it to ‘Islamic extremism’ and falsely, and dangerously, trying to conflate that event with the peaceful marches attended by hundreds of thousands if not millions of people from all faiths religions and background with false quotes about a ‘call for global intifada’, as a false forewarning about the dangers of these peaceful marches.

Horrible, dangerous racist.

17 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

But that's not what she said is it, that's the spin you're putting on it. At no point did she attribute the attack in Sydney to any Muslim. 

 

If you look at her actual words, rather than the ones you've imagined her saying, what she said was that the stabbing attack in Sydney is what "Globalising the Intifada" - a chant heard regularly on our streets recently - would look like.

 

I find it hard to believe that I need to explain basic English to anyone, but if I said that X looks like what Y would look like, then that's not the same as saying that X and Y are identical, or that X is an example of Y.

 

I've already said that it was clumsily expressed, ironically because it was the exact opposite of the "unambiguous" you think it was, but her later clarification leaves no room whatsoever for doubt as to her original intent, and anyone continuing to stick the knife in even after she has explained what she meant evidently has their own agenda.

This is nonsensical. Verbal gymnastics to justify the unjustifiable 

I don’t think there’s an ‘anti Rachel Riley’ agenda. Her words actions and behaviours speak for themselves. Shes a massive, hypocritical racist who used an event to fit her agenda. ‘This is what global intifada which is called for on our streets’ looks like. Bullshit. Scaremongering.

She’s a nasty nasty piece of work

Bajcetic on the bench is good to see, and Trent! 

Arsenal will at least draw a game. It’s still in our hands

Im pretty depressed about the description of Amorims tactics. Pressing has been this teams identity and will be shit to see us not doing that, not to mention hard for this group of players to have to completely relearn tactically. 
 

Salahs starting on Sunday don’t worry about that

4 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

https://thirdmanruns.wordpress.com/2024/04/01/evaluating-ruben-amorims-game-model-at-sporting-cp-part-1/

 

https://thirdmanruns.wordpress.com/2024/04/01/evaluating-ruben-amorims-game-model-can-he-make-the-jump-part-2/

 

 

That’s quite a depressing read

That’s fucking onside

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

Irony eh 

I honestly wouldn’t usually care that much as it’s an internet forum but it’s been such a sustained pattern of pathetic, cowardly behaviour over a period of several months, without uttering a word about a valid debate.

Comes across as a pathetic coward firstly. But worse, one that supports through little likes and negs on a Liverpool forum on the internet, the systematic murder of innocent people primarily women and children. Without having a word to say for themselves. Imagine being that pathetic.

You’re a disgrace

Don’t get why Nunez and endo are starting. Hopefully off early and healthy

Mo and VVD should be given new contracts and if Edward’s has any hand in that not happening he’s a fucking idiot

Absolutely wild take that given konate holds down the entire right side of the pitch on his own, his game intelligence is excellent and he makes top players look like little u16s with his size pace and strength

I mean steady on, a fit konate is world class but who knows what quansahs ceiling is and their job share rotation is fine with me. 
 

Southgate should pick him for England but he won’t 

He’s not Konate or vvd but almost nooone else in world football is. But don’t worry for a second when he’s on the team sheet even against Man City 

I hope they both play for us for many many years

20 minutes ago, piphomer said:

 

That Amorim guy at Porto is definitely worth considering, I would say. 

I don’t remember an Amorim from Porto. I know an Amorim from Sporting Lisbon

Rest as many as we can for Sunday.

You just hope we’re doing something about this right now.

All the talk about waiting for a sporting director is worrying, makes us look rudderless. Hopefully a red herring?

I hadn’t realised the Edward’s rumours were that strong and hadn’t considered the potential impact on our current squad, does all sound very concerning. We just need someone to come along and keep the culture of what Klopp has built going (Xabi) not have someone come in with a huge ego and try to change everything 

That’s really poor