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that book actually exists i saw it in Birkenhead library today..well 'Alzheimers for dummies'. made me laugh anyway.

that makes sence because george played the lennon version at the end which made me think it was a recent chant. but i guess its been around for a while but now has a new tweak.

cheers for the info. not sure about the inter forum politics so you'll have to explain the Rawk referance to me.

went the game for the first time in a few years on saturday in the centenery. just need a bit of help with a few of the chants. can anyone post the words to the suarez- just cant get enough And what are the words being sung to the give 'peace a chance' (which was plyed at the end over the PA as well!!) cheers

modern politics at work. both this and the osborne video. just repeat the same answer, no matter what the question, until the answer becomes a soundbite that can be used on the 10 o'clock news later. the travisty in this is: where are the journalists to pull these career polititians up on it, no mention of it on that bbc page.

yesterday showed what a lame duck milliband is. a decent opposition leader would have used yesterdays multi union strike to hammer the govt. but, because he cant be seen as being 'cosy' with the unions he condemed them. leaving him with a bi election win in a labour safe seat in scotland as his only weapon against the govt. we need a decent opposition, and we need it now. milliband is not the man for the job.

I voted top four. but equally fifth with a FA cup win has to be classed as success in my opinion. As someone said above, it is sad that qualification for the champions league has become top priority but with two years out already, we really need to be back in next year in order to kick on from there.

I personally have no problem with SOS (not a member myself through..). Although everything is rosy at the mo regarding the ownership / the clubs future in general, i'd still back SOS to fundamentally have more of our interest at heart than FSG, who ultimately are here for a profit. I'd also say they are better placed to hold FSG to account than the 'supporters forum' which have been set up by the owners.

Just out of interest; what are you refering to as the voice that we have if its not SOS. or do you mean literally we all have our own individual voices?

not their best effort but only the second time i've heard it and think it's a grower, as with the a most of the songs of the last album (crying lightening in particular) they are a massively different band now to 'what ever people say I am....' to say they haven't 'lived up' to the first album is complete bollocks

Kenny: "Just when I thought I was out...They pulled me back in".

anyone know who this guys is?? interesting article anyway. the bit about seeing the pass is interesting. also think he sums up football punditry quite well at the end. Pundits like Andy Gray? Why the players couldn't care less That many football pundits don't even try to scratch beneath the surface, despite knowing what it takes to win a match at this level, is deeply annoying What if Sky Sports offered me Andy Gray's job? Not a chance. Let me tell you something, football pundits are universally despised by players and not just because at some point in the past they would have been on the receiving end of criticism themselves. It doesn't matter what you've done in the game, where you've played, what you might have won or how much money you earned – pundits are held in the same regard by players as female assistant referees once were at Sky. And while on that subject, prepare to be disappointed. While I found the whole episode with Gray and Richard Keys at Molineux cringeworthy, inside the world of football nobody is particularly bothered. Don't interpret that as evidence that players are condoning Gray and Keys for their behaviour. It's more a case that most of my team-mates would have no interest in listening to anything pundits say in the first place. There's no obvious reason why those sat on the sofa are thought of in such low terms, but it may have something to do with a sense that they are going against the inner sanctum that we pretend we are a part of. Perhaps, subconsciously, it tugs at those still playing, who realise the ex-players know things about them that they probably wish they didn't. Their new position of influence over millions of people is a little uncomfortable for some, I'm sure, and their failure to go the extra mile when analysing matches can also grate. Switch to our world and the level of detail that goes into games still, to this day, amazes me. Every player has his own script, what to do, when to do it, information on the player he's up against, including weight, height, age, strengths, weaknesses, even what that opponent is likely to do when the ball comes to him in certain situations. We memorise every single set piece, where we have to stand, run and end up. We even memorise this for the other players so we know where everyone else will be at any given time. You know that pass when you say to yourself: "How did he spot that?" Often he didn't need to; he knew the player would be there because, the night before in the hotel, he read about the runs he would be making. It's exactly the same pass after which sometimes you might find yourself saying: "Who was that to?" The receiving player either forgot to be there or was taken out of the game by a tactical manoeuvre by his opposite number. Football at this level is very chess-like, maybe not to those outside of football but certainly to those inside. I sometimes wonder whether it's more enjoyable playing lower down the leagues. After all, who wants to play chess? With top-level football being so complex, it is very difficult to deconstruct a live game within a couple of minutes of it being over, and because of this the "analysis" is usually reduced to goals and individual performance. But the fact that many pundits don't even try to scratch beneath the surface, despite knowing what it takes to win a match at this level, annoys me. It's the trivialisation of what we do by people that we used to call our own and, more importantly, deprives the viewer of some very interesting tit-bits that would, I feel, add to the entertainment. Anyone can navigate a giant iPad, sliding faces of famous players around with their pinkie while throwing out phrases like "Third man run" and other such rubbish. What particularly riles me is when you hear a pundit or co-commentator say something like, "I can't understand, Martin, why Drogba is not on the post here. That header would have fallen to him and if I'm Petr Cech I'm saying: 'Go on son, clear that off the line for me!'" The fact is corners are routinely cleared by a man stationed on the six-yard line, exactly where Chelsea position Didier Drogba. If somebody scores inside that post it is for no other reason than a player having lost his man. That is the mistake. If there is a player on the post he will clear one, possibly two shots off the line a season. If that same player stands on the six-yard line he will probably clear 100 corners away over the course of the season. The worst thing, though, is when this dross gets into popular culture and my friends start saying stupid things to me like, "We should have a man on the post, our manager doesn't know what he's doing", just because it sounds like the right thing to say. It's such an easy way of analysing that it infuriates me. It's lazy and it takes you, the viewer, for a fool. But, then again, Sky is an expert in creating a villain. Pundits like Andy Gray? Why the players couldn't care less | Football | The Guardian

From Holloway's press conference I took it as Adams' agent had gone to the press about the transfer request not Liverpool or Blackpool. for what it's worth i see nothing wrong with holloway's stance, the player has 18months left on his contract and is fairly instrumental to them.

R.I.P YNWA

Think I read an interview with Chris bascombe once, might have been on here actually, was a while ago before he went to NOTW. He said one of his biggest regrets was the part he felt he played in Fowler going. He said he was fed stories about robbie by Ged (or sources close to the club) about robbie not giving 100% in training etc and that looking back he felt he was used just to soffen us up to allow Robbie to leave. Ged did his fair share of politicking. Radio5 seem to have bought Houllier's bollocks of him claiming credit for istanbul on that shite 'monday night club' they have. "Of course, we were discussing this with regard to benitez weren't we, it was pretty much houillier's team who won the cup in 2005". Anyone who get a european cup winners medal for Traore, biscan and smicer deserves a sainthood.