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I didn’t mention top 4 and I don't have an opinion of him as a person (apart from his poor hairstyle choice). The title of the thread is "So who should be our next manager?" That is the only level for which I am critiquing De Zerbi. The most important thing I want to see from a manager is progression. Brighton have got worse under De Zerbi. He took over a team that had finished 9th the previous season, were (probably in a false position of) 4th when he took over, finished the season in 6th but his points total for his 31 games, was equal to 8th place Spurs and will finish 11th to 13th this season, while the form of the team is nosediving. He has also spoken out publicly about the club ownership. He should be nowhere near any discussions about becoming the Liverpool manager.

He plays 4321

No, not for Brighton but for a team managed by a prospective Liverpool manager, then yes, pretty fucking horrific.

They have 9 pts in their last 9 league games. Their form is getting worse, and they are sliding down the table. They will probably finish somewhere between 11th and 13th. Where did you think Brighton would finish at the start of the season? Do you think that is worthy of getting the Liverpool job? And the hair, fucking hell, the hair!

He isn’t exceeding expectationsHe is actually doing worse. For a manager to be successful at Liverpool currently, the coach will have to create a team performing better than the sum of its parts. De Zerbi isn't doing that. For the 8 months of last year, even with Sanchez, Caicedo, Mac Allister and a fit Mitoma, they got 49 points from 31 games. Good for Brighton, but worthy of the Liverpool job?

And the not winning games, of course. De Zerbi would be nowhere near the conversation except for the handover he got from Potter's Brighton last season. They had 13 points from the opening 6 games under Potter last season. De Zerbi's Brighton got 49 points from 31 points last season - that's a 60 point season, so they would have finished 8th level with Spurs. Since September of this season, Brighton have 29 points from their past 26 league games. That's similar form to Palace and Brentford. Since Christmas, Brighton have beaten Sheffield United twice, Stoke, Palace, Forest, and Roma (1-0 in a return leg after losing the first leg 4-0). De Zerbi is on a really poor run of form for 7 months and the good run for 12 months, wasn't that great.

Rumours of a few changes in today's line-up, including a benched Salah

Tremendous

Fergie left when he knew there was nothing left to squeeze out too. They are not daft. 4 of the 11 that started last night made their Liverpool league debut this season. Kelleher played 5 league games before this season. Nunez is here 20 months. Diaz is here just over 2 years. Elliott and Jones are 21 and 23 years old, respectively. Gakpo isn't here 18 months. Quansah is a child. FFS, where do these guys get off? Morons

Klopp very rarely plays Mo, Elliott, and Mac Allister at the same time. We are just too small at set pieces.

Aside from the 5-0 at the Emirates in October, and another 5-0 when they went down to 10 men v Burnley, their goal difference away from home is For 22, Against 12. They drew away to Brighton and Villa and usually only lose by one or two goals. We should win but it could be low scoring.

On the Mo one, if a forward pushes the ball past a defender, continues his run and then "runs into Dunk's (the defender's) legs, it's a foul.

Taylor and Brooks. A cuntfest

And finished more three times. 99, 97 and 92

I woke my wife when I burst out laughing at Dave comparing his modesty and humility to Jurgen Klopp. Never change man.

I was thinking while listening, of the 14 players that played today, only 3 have won the league with us. I know we feel like we have been here before and players like Diaz were around in 21/22, when we did enough to win most leagues, and we have finished every season well since 2019, we are playing inexperienced sides at the moment. We really could do with the injured players back to have a little more experience on the pitch over the next 9 games

Even if he goes to Madrid after next season, they have had 17 managers (including 5 interims) since Del Bosque was sacked in 2003. He wont be there long-term so it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that he spends some time as manager here during his career, if he fancies it, the timing is right and he is what we need when he is available.

I disagree. We were only ok in the 1st half v United in the cup. We dominated them in the 2nd half, until they threw the kitchen sink at it fot the final 5 minutes. It isn’t Klopp's fault that the players butchered numerous chances during that period. Extra time looked as if the tough schedule with lots unavailable just caught up with the players.

We all have Villa and Spurs. We play Villa away and Spurs home. Arsenal and City play Spurs away and Villa home. They both have Brighton away, we have Everton away. We and Arsenal have Man United away. Arsenal have a derby v Chelsea. City have the easist run-in IMO but they have 2 tough ones v Real Madrid in the Champions League

Needed to be said

We constantly hear that Man City just up the gears in the title run-in and take control. This is very true but I think it gets forgotten how well Liverpool have finished seasons since 18/19. Obviously, there are a couple of funny seasons, where covid interrupted our run, or the title has been won early, but: We have accumulated 124 points in our final 10 games across the last five seasons. Manchester City have also accumulated 124 points across those 50 games. We have won 38, drawn 10 and lost just 2, to City and Arsenal actually (both in the title winning season, during the summer, after the covid resumption). City have won 40, drawn 4 and lost 6. The 6 they lost however, were meaningless really. They lost 3 in 20/21 when the league was all but wrapped up, lost 2 when they were miles behind us in 19/20 and lost the final game last season when it was over and they were preparing for two finals. This shows that City can drop points in the run-in, but usually, when they need results, they are excellent. We are also excellent when we need to be though. Across 50 games, we only lost twice, when it didn’t matter, and even last season, we only drew our final two games when 4th was gone. Arsenal - haha

Kelleher Bradley Konate VVD Gomez Szoboszlai Endo Macca Salah Nunez Diaz Subs: Adrian Quansah Tsimikas McConnell Elliott Gravenberch Jones? Gakpo Danns

No fear of that with De Zerbi, he has failed to win 35 of his 60 league games with Brighton.

I have nothing against De Zerbi, except the stats and his hair. He took a side that came 9th the previous season, to 6th and now they are 8th and sliding. They got 13 points from the opening 6 games last season, before Potter left, and finished just 3 points ahead of 9th place Brentford, so last season De Zerbi wasn't all that either. If he was English, and the football wasn't so easy on the eye, he would be spoken about similar to David Moyes/Eddie Howe. I hope he goes to Bayern.

I agree that Brighton are rebuilding after the loss of Caicedo and Mac Allister but they are getting worse during the rebuild. Brighton will always be rebuilding. That is what they are. If they are getting worse during the rebuild then is the manager worthy of praise?