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Gomez winner. Imagine. 

In terms of impact it’s the equivalent of the linesman giving a throw the wrong way two minutes before a goal is scored at the other end of the pitch. 
 

It would be a delicious irony though if Kierney got demoted as a result. 

You really can’t beat an injury time winner. 

Chelsea have said farewell to 10 managers since Klopp was appointed. No wonder they get all the decisions. 

As a long time lurker and only occasional poster I wanted to give a shout out to Trumo for his match threads, they’ve been really good this season. 
 

2-1 to the mighty reds, from 1 nil down obviously. 

We’ve started the last couple of games really well, so hopefully we won’t see a repeat of the first 20 mins in the cup.
 

My guess is it’ll be Alison, Robertson, VVD, Konate, Trent, Mac Allister, Szoboszlai, Jones, Jota, Gakpo and Diaz. I’m hoping Núñez is fit enough to make the bench, he could make a huge difference coming on in the second half. 

10 hours ago, Moctezuma said:

Keep fetish proclivities to the GF, not sure we need it on the FF

Repped for proclivities. 

8 hours ago, an tha said:

Here we go again...

 

'Oh we got it wrong' ....too late after the event/s isn't it.

 

Useless twats

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66724505

Was there ever an apology for the Mac Allister red card? I’d be interested to see a transcript of the VAR discussion for that one. 

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

It's not a red card with any sort of logical outlook, but there's zero chance the ban will be overturned and the ref will be justified because the foot was high, studs were showing, etc.. 

I agree but 9 times out of 10 the ref gives a yellow in these situations and that allows VAR to change it to a red if there’s been a bad mistake. No idea why that didn’t happen here. 

Bringing Origi on in the 90th minute took me back about 10 years to the days when N’Gog was the only forward on the subs bench. Horrible feeling. 

23 minutes ago, Reckoner said:

Can someone please recommend a stream for watching the mancs go out tonight?

Did you find one? I’m still looking. 

"However, Premier League chief executive Richard Masters said earlier this year that VAR was delivering on the “principal reason” for its introduction in improving the accuracy of decision-making.

“In key match incidents we are up to 94% accuracy with officials, 97% with their assistants, so we are seeing an impact on results and a positive impact on the league table,” he said."

No, you idiot, the point is to make the game more enjoyable and in that it is failing spectacularly. 

I've told my wife that we are getting VAR installed in the bedroom. She says that it'll be off-putting having weird little men from Stockley Park drawing lines all over her fanny, but I've explained that it's important to improve the accuracy of our love-making. 

He’s been impermeable. Perfect for shoring up a leaky defence.

5 hours ago, dave u said:

See United have been charged for failing to control their players.

 

The more I think about that the more annoyed I am about how they acted. It was ALWAYS going to VAR so why are they harrassing the ref like that? There's no excuse for anyone getting in the ref's face like that anymore because VAR looks at anything contentious.

 

Also, anyone know who the VAR ref was who over-ruled Craig Pawson?

I think that their reaction indirectly put pressure on the VAR ref. No idea if it had an influence as these sorts of decisions are completely subjective (and therefore shouldn’t be subject to VAR in the first place).

Great report as ever. I agree with all of it except that for me the end of the game really was the moment I allowed myself to start to believe. There’s no logic to it but when you’ve spent the best part of 20 years - because it took about 10 to sink in - thinking that Liverpool would never again win the title in your lifetime, then the evidence has to be pretty overwhelming to change that. 

2 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

As I understand it, money injected or costs towards a stadium build or renovation is discounted for UEFA's FFP or the PL's own club spending limits. Money advanced, gifted or given as an option to be first in the queue for the right to purchase naming rights, is not directly stadium build related.

 

This is an artificial injection of cash not tied to any share issue or ownership. Are we going to see hordes of clubs now get cash injections amounting to tens of millions of pounds based solely on the premise that the money given to them is only an option to be first in the queue for the right to buy stadium naming rights?

 

It is also truely bizarre that everton claim the option for the right to be first in the queue to purchase naming rights is a bigger one off payment than the so called annual income for the naming rights itself and, that the naming rights contract has already been signed! Why do you need an option if the naming rights contract is already agreed and signed?

 

Im only amazed neither city nor chelsea's owners saw this wheeze first!

The value of an option to buy something at market value is zero as, by definition you are only getting the right to buy something for what you would have had to pay for it in the first place. Having a right of first refusal may have some minor value but paying 30 million quid In this instance is just an attempt to get round FFP. And a pretty obvious one at that.

1 hour ago, JohnnyH said:

Genuine question for the people saying we need to scrap it -

 

If it was scrapped in December, would you have been ok with what happened in the Wolves game with no VAR?  I.e. the initial decisions of our perfectly good goal being disallowed and the Wolves offside goal been given are allowed to stand and we lose?  You think us losing the game would have been better than having VAR?

I’m happy the handball was over turned in that game but so far I would say that the benefit of a small number of incidents being rightly corrected by VAR is hugely outweighted by all the negatives the process brings. So would I sacrifice the odd bad decision in a season for being able to celebrate goals properly again? Yes, absolutely.

1 hour ago, Jennings said:

Done.

 

Edit: Great lurking mate. 570 odd posts in ten years!!

Thanks a lot, great quiz. Must go and look for the backward toilet seat thread. By the way, where is Nunavut Patrick, he normally wins these things hands down. 

5 minutes ago, Jennings said:

 

I have set up a new challenge for those that missed it and want a go for fun.

 

PM'd you both the link.

Can you send it to me too please?  

I dreamt last night that Van Dijk did his hamstring from playing too many games and was out for six weeks, so Henderson at centre half is fine by me. 

Big game this after the Napoli result so I think it’s right we go full strength. Good to see AOC in midfield where he belongs, a chance for him to step up. 

Who says Mourinho’s teams don’t play entertaining football? 

I have seen absolutely nothing in the media or from the authorities explaining the whole handball thing. As far as I can tell:

Michael Oliver didn’t see the Silva handball and deemed the TAA handball accidental. VAR checked the TAA handball and agreed it was accidental. As a result, the Silva handball was irrelevant (not leading to a goal scoring opportunity), play was allowed to continue and we scored. If VAR had decided that the TAA handball was a penalty then they would have reviewed the Silva handball which lead to it and Liverpool would have got a free kick.

So Man City were never getting a penalty, even though the decision was debatable. And of course the whole VAR thing is complete bollocks; when Fabinho scores a worldie we should all be jumping up and down screaming, not scratching our chins about retrospective reinterpretations of shite regulations. 

Top, top notch. Been looking forward to this and it didn’t disappoint.

Great report, as always. Against Sheffield United Mané was fouled in the box and didn’t make anything of it. No penalty given. Funnily enough I haven’t heard anyone bring that up when discussing whether he dived. If officials (and fucking VAR) had the balls to give fouls in the first place then players wouldn’t feel the need to point them out by falling over. 

It looked like a clear penalty in real time. On review, it turned out to be a dive. This is exactly what VAR was introduced to sort out and if it can’t even get that right it should be fucked off.