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  1. Ill prob get negged to fuck for this and I get that the timing of the club doing this reeks of profiteering and its not like we're seeing any better football to go with any recent price rises, but isnt the price of a ticket just a market price? If it was too expensive there would be empty seats in Anfield? There's touts stood all along walton breck selling tickets for far more than the club propose, and people buy them week in and out. People are so desperate to see our team they'll pay for flights and taxis and hotels in order to do it. I know a tout with 15 season tickets, he packages them off to a supporters club in Norway with flights and accommodation and could live off of the proceeds. Why wouldnt the club want to make that money themselves? There is, as far as i know a phenomenon with our club where season tickets never get returned, they just get passed onto to a friend or family who wants to take it and is willing to pay, that wouldnt happen if they were asking too much for a ticket. These surely are the indicators the owners have to go off, and thats just how markets work. Liverpool FC dont really set the price of a ticket, the fans do, if its too much you dont pay it... I dont get why the club would make a £30 ticket that people are already willing pay well over a £100 for.
  2. i dont know that you can force it, as the football improves so will the atmosphere, if the city game had been played at anfield the place would have been rocking.
  3. There was defo some positives to ydays game, moreno looked really good on the wing and our play before the subs and their goals was pretty good, pressed and well moved the ball around well. Sakho looked decent at the back and I really liked how Ings played once he was on and Sturridge wasnt as rusty as i expected. The result aside it wasnt a bad afternoons football, just pity about the result...
  4. I thought the kop was looking at bit bare at the West Ham, does anyone know what issues are here? http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/liverpool-fc-keen-seek-swift-9986182 Liverpool FC keen to seek swift resolution to Kop flags dispute will open dialogue with a prominent supporters group as they look to resolve a row about flags at Anfield. The club is planning to sit down with members of the Spion Kop 1906 group in the next fortnight, to discuss potential improvements to the matchday process for flagbearers at Anfield. Last weekend’s game at West Ham was notable for the absence of a number of well-known Kop flags and banners, as Spion Kop members chose not to fly them in protest at what they later described as “needless issues and pointless obstacles” they say had been proposed by the club. In a further tweet yesterday, Spion Kop 1906 said LFC "have requested for us to sign a register and wear accreditation to wave our flags. We are disappointed with this and are hoping to meet with the club in the coming weeks to resolve. All we want to do is support the club like always. We hope the club see sense." The meeting between the club and Spion Kop members is expected to take place before the Reds’ next home game, against Norwich City on Sunday, September 20. A spokesman for Spion Kop 106 said today: "We welcome the chance to engage with the club on this issue and hope we reach a common sense agreement. "The match-going supporter already has enough obstacles to overcome without more being added so hopefully common sense will prevail." Liverpool have so far declined to comment on the issue, though the ECHO understands the club remain keen to encourage supporters to bring flags to Anfield, and are open to dialogue with any supporters or supporters’ groups who have issues.
  5. My story and claim to greatness is a tragic one, but ill share it here. My dad when he was about 19-20 was a very good footballer, he played up front for the school, local and county teams with his best mate, a lad called Terry Owen (that's Michaels Owen's dad), the 2 of them where the best players on the team, and my dad claims he was always a bit better than Terry (always calls him Owens). They were both massive blues and at the end of the season they where both given trails at Everton, which they both did well in and where offered professional contracts. Sadly though, my grandad stepped in and said no way was my dad taking that, there was no money to be made in football and he had to get a trade. My dad became a spark and Terry signed his contract with Everton. He said they still spoke occasionally but were leading very different lives and drifted apart. My dad grew pretty bitter I think about what had happened (he hated being a spark, and by the time i came along like 10 years latter he had joined the fire service), and turned his back on football. So for what had been a massive part of his life he never spoke of it or passed any of it on to me, matches werent watched, kick abouts in the garden werent had, he wouldnt even explain to me how it was decided which team took the throw in. And so i didnt understand an hated football. if anyone asked i said i was a red cos i liked the colour, but really i couldnt care less. Terry went on to have a pretty long, if not massively successful, career and then most importantly used his contacts to get Michael coached and then trails at Liverpool. Me as you do about the age of 14-15 i got some good mates, really good mates who were all good at footy, and that was all we did for like 3 years straight, day an night, was play cubbies, heads and vollies or 5 a side. By the time i was 20 i was playing well in a couple of teams, there was people watching me and I was top scorer in our league in the pits. But the pits was were it all went wrong, i nutmegged some big cunt one evening and he bit half my ear off. After a bit of surgery I thought sod this for a game of soldiers and became a software engineer. And there my tales finishes, but ill always wonder what if, what if my dad had followed the path Terry did and it had been me getting coached at 5, trails at the best academy.... I certainly wouldnt have been the crocked cunt Michael turned out to be.
  6. Counter piece from Dave Prentice. And i dont disagree with what he says, but it feels like the standard contract model is flat pay, if liverpool want players to sign for them on an incentived contract they need to be offering a player who can get £100k a week anywhere else £130k with the incentives, and we're arent doing that so its not really an incentive. Why Liverpool FC are right to give Martin Skrtel an incentive to play: artin Skrtel believes his new, heavily incentivised, contract offer from Liverpool is “unacceptable” and makes him “uneasy.” Two strong words. There’s a two word response the Reds could deliver. Joe Cole. Actually there’s another two: Fabio Borini. And how about two more? Milan Jovanovic. All three are examples of Liverpool’s previously flawed contract policy. All three were players who signed lucrative long-term deals at Anfield, not dependent on games played. And all three were players who spent long spells draining club coffers whilst making a minimal contribution to the club’s playing fortunes. Liverpool have tried hard to end that damaging model. Clearly exceptions are being made for sought after young talents like Raheem Sterling, but Liverpool are trying to reshape their policy so that players actually earn their money now. “Elements of performance in contracts is key; getting value is key,” said chief executive Ian Ayre in a recent interview. “Like any incentive it has to be achievable. There is no point setting goals that are just unrealistic. We pay good pay for our players; we pay fair pay. But we also like to give them the appetite to earn more which we know footballers like to do. As we all do. “That’s a far cry from deals where it is sort of nailed on and then it doesn’t matter whether they perform or do not perform.” All perfectly reasonable. Which begs the question, what is Martin Skrtel worried about? Since 2009/10, when a broken foot ended his season in late February, the Slovak has boasted a remarkable record of consistency. Last season he made 52 appearances for club and country, he played 42 the previous season, 38 the season before that, 48 the campaign before and 53 in 2010/11 when he achieved the unusual feat of playing every minute of every Premier League match. But he is now 30-years-old, so perhaps he fears the likelihood of more frequent injuries. It is understood that Skrtel has to play possibly as many as 80 per cent of Liverpool fixtures to qualify for his full salary – but that is something he hasn’t failed to do for almost five years. He has also been offered three years with the option of a further 12-months – fair for for a player of his age. Perhaps Skrtel should look at the example of Liverpool’s most recent recruit. James Milner has just turned down a greater contract offer from Manchester City to sign for Liverpool, because he fancies his chances of playing more football at Anfield than the Etihad. That’s the kind of hungry player you want in your squad. If Martin Skrtel has worries that he may not play in 80 per cent of Liverpool’s matches next season, Liverpool are absolutely right not to offer him 100 per cent of his salary up front.
  7. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/martin-skrtel-liverpool-fcs-contract-9387462 Martin Skrtel has reportedly told Slovakian press that Liverpool FC’s contract offer is “unacceptable”. The 30-year-old defender, who has just one year left on his current deal, has been in negotiations with the club over fresh terms. However he has slammed Liverpool’s offer as one for “older players or players with health problems.” He is said to have told Slovakian media outlets: “It’s unacceptable for me. “I think that contracts like this offered to players who are much older than me or the player who had some health problems. “The contract which has been offered to me is unacceptable, so I did not sign it. I have one year left and there has been some speculation about the interest from other clubs. We will see what happens.” Skrtel’s is the latest contract offer to drag on for Liverpool with Jordan Henderson, who has since signed a new deal, and Raheem Sterling both rejecting contract offers. The centre-back has been linked with moves to the likes of Wolfsburg and Inter Milan - but only last month he dismissed speculation about his future. “There is always talk about my position and my future,” said the defender. “Almost every single transfer window there is always talk about myself leaving Liverpool and interest from other clubs. “But as it stands, I still have a contract with Liverpool, I have an offer from Liverpool and we’ll see where we finish (with those talks). “I am fully committed to Liverpool.”
  8. "Vulnerable Liverpool are mediocre - and they know it" Tony Barrett Last updated at 10:53AM, May 19 2015 Not since buying Liverpool in October 2010 has Fenway Sports Group (FSG) endured such a chastening 72 hours. On Saturday, supporters at Anfield reacted with derision to the suggestion that the club are heading in the right direction. Then yesterday there was a vicious double whammy as Michel Platini confirmed that the Financial Fair Play rules which attracted John W. Henry to purchase the club are to be relaxed and Raheem Sterling’s camp made it known that the winger wishes to leave. Liverpool are vulnerable right now. They are mediocre and everyone knows it. The reality is that those at the top end of the football industry have known it for some time, hence senior scouts from Manchester City and Chelsea becoming Anfield regulars this season in the knowledge that Liverpool’s best players are there for the taking in a way that they haven’t been for half a century. For all the opprobrium – some of it just, some of it not – that will inevitably be showered on Sterling and his representative, Aidy Ward, following yesterday’s events, the reality is that it is Liverpool’s weakness that allows players and agents to act in the way that they are. One of the club’s first and most important responsibilities is to make it a place that players find difficult to leave and it would be absurd to claim that is the case. With no Champions League football to offer, only one trophy (the League Cup) won in the past nine seasons, just three title challenges since 1991, a transfer policy that prioritises the future over the present and an inability to compete for top players, Liverpool are failing to keep their end of the bargain in terms of how a big club are supposed to behave. Expectations have been lowered, almost dumbed down, and if the supporters can recognise that so too can the players. Thus far, the strongest argument that Liverpool have been able to muster in their attempts to convince Sterling to remain at the club is that it is the best place for his development at this stage of his career; not that if he remains at Anfield he can fulfil his ambitions, that success is around the corner or that they will pay him as much as others are willing to. It is an argument rooted in weakness and lacking in conviction. It could also be argued that it is flawed given that Sterling, a creative player, has spent the past 12 months playing in a team without a forward. It is all well and good playing regular first-team football but doing so in a dysfunctional team that stymies your best qualities is hardly developmental. The reality is that Liverpool’s problems – their failure to finish in the top four, their struggle to hold on to their best players, the lack of supporters’ faith in the club’s direction and the pressure that is building on the Anfield hierarchy – are symptoms of the same cause: a flawed transfer strategy that it is causing untold damage. Signing potential rather than proven talent is undermining everything that Liverpool are supposed to stand for. It has reached the stage where one of their better young players is not prepared to hang around to see if their inferior young players will improve. For all the accusations that Sterling is going the wrong way about forcing a move (and many of these are wholly legitimate), Liverpool are at the mercy of the ambition of others because they are either unwilling or unable to match their rivals’ ambition. That situation is only likely to become more severe now that FFP is about to be watered down. As Henry himself conceded recently, without FFP it becomes “very difficult” for Liverpool to compete. The established football food chain, ordered according to owners’ wealth, leaves them exposed. Rival clubs, avaricious agents and even their own supporters know this only too well. FSG’s model is failing. Whether that is because it is fundamentally flawed or poorly executed is a moot point but what is not in question is that Liverpool’s entire football operation is in need of urgent evaluation. Until the things that are going wrong are put right, then Raheem Sterling won’t be the last to believe the grass is greener elsewhere, he’ll just be one of a number in an ever lengthening line who view Liverpool Football Club as a stepping stone rather than a final destination."
  9. I more annoyed with the clubs low balling of contract offers, Its cost us several times already signing players like Wililan and Eriksen. Looks like its going to cost us established players like sterling and henderson next. Ill always be annoyed with any player leaving liverpool for a different team and more money, but I doubt id do anything differently in there shoes.
  10. I dont think they are that differant to us, granted Wilshit is on £90k, but then Glen Johnson... Szczney £65k Mignlos £60k Mertesaker £70k Sakho £75k Flamini £65k Hedno £55k Cazorla £90k Sturridge £80k They pay a bit more but off set with living in London and i think it very comparable. Their top earner is Sanchez on £140k our is Gerrard on £140k http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/liverpool-s-2014-2015-squad-wages-leaked-online http://www.tsmplug.com/football/arsenal-players-salary-list-2014/ Then you get onto the massive list of world class players that have left arsenal to get paid Fabregas Nasri Van Persie Cashley Hleb Clichy I dont see any reason why the same thing wont happen to our best players, their agents can get more money from city or chelsea so they fuck off and we never kick on.
  11. It worries me the owners are so set on an Arsenal style wages/payment structure. Arsenal have watched the team being held back year after year as their best players left for more money. I dread that happening to us.
  12. Liverpool could face a fight on their hands to retain the services of Jordan Henderson – with former star Bruce Grobbelaar claiming a ‘big European club’ are keen to sign the 24-year-old. The Reds midfielder, who has 18 months left on his current contract, has reportedly rejected a £80,000-a-week deal to stay at Anfield and is believed to want closer to £100,000. The England star’s unrest has lead to speculation over his future, with Barcelona said to be interested in signing the 24-year-old on a free transfer in the summer of 2016. And ex-shot stopper Grobbelaar insists the Sunderland man could be on his way out of the club. “Jordan Henderson has grown massively as a player,” he told Extra Time. “I have heard through that he’s been tapped by one of the big Europeans clubs.” Read more at http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-liverpool-could-face-fight-keep-henderson-anfield-claims-former-red-150309139059#57IG3YFcwCibLL5t.99 http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-liverpool-could-face-fight-keep-henderson-anfield-claims-former-red-150309139059#xX1whGzbiRqMlciL.99
  13. Liverpool's Raheem Sterling will miss the game with the foot injury which forced him off against Everton. Lucas is ruled out after injuring his thigh, but Adam Lallana could return and Philippe Coutinho should be fit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31106342
  14. It seems to have cost us some decent signings as well.
  15. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/exclusive-liverpool-fc-part-company-8407848 Liverpool FC have parted company with first-team doctor Zaf Iqbal. The ECHO understands his four-and-a-half year spell with the Anfield club came to an end on Wednesday. Reds Academy doctor Andy Massey has taken on the additional duties on a temporary basis. The reasons for Dr Iqbal's exit are unclear. Melwood-based Dr Iqbal was responsible for the medical treatment of all players. He would put prospective new signings through their medicals and sit on the bench on matchdays. He also assisted the club's medical and sport science teams in devising daily fitness programmes for each player. He worked for Leyton Orient and England's youth teams before joining Tottenham where he was promoted to the role of first-team doctor in 2008. Dr Iqbal made the move to Liverpool in the summer of 2010. “I have supported Liverpool ever since the mid-1980s and the opportunity to work with the excellent medical team set up here was an opportunity just too good to turn down,” he said.
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