The Woolster
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You've repeated the "resting with the ball" bollocks enough times as well, thankfully it doesn't seem to be sticking...
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The thing is, just because he did that at Swansea, does not mean he will do it exactly the same here. Our attacking players are (in theory) better than Swansea's, we should be able to keep possession higher up the pitch (as we did last season) better, and whilst we may create less chances than we did before, they should hopefully be of better quality. But we won't really know until we have had a fair few more games.
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Can't go on Youtube at work, but at this stage I have to agree that he should be central. I also think Suarez would be more effective starting wider, and I hope they are swapped around.
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I guess I must be a fucking moron then! Unless of course I wasn't actually saying it was an achievement, but using it to show that we also kept possession pretty well too, irrespective of what the opposition did. Lets not discount the fact that Swansea had the majority of their possession in their own half either.
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Fabio Borini Statistically compared to Liverpool Strikers | Opta Stats The stats are taken from Whoscored I think, and to honest I am not sure how much I trust them as I think they use starting position rather than an average position, but apprantly he mainly started on the left of the attacking 3, which is also what Rodgers seems to think his best postion is.
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Thats more or less what I am saying (dunno if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me ot be honest, just had a couple of lunch time pints), I just think its not that massive a change and that we should be able to get to grips with it by mid season rather than towards the end. Like I said, its working on the training ground on the patterns of play. Its not a complete change in style, such as Big Sams direct football to Sammy Lee's pass and move, which what I was originally commenting on. The players we had were already very comfortable in possession. The keeper was already an acomplished sweeper keeper. The players we had were already some of the best in the league at winning the ball back. They have the the abillity and experience of doing these things, they are just being asked to do it slightly differently and in diffeent areas. Its a slight change in mentality that will come through practice and repitition.
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He was comparing Rodgers coming in after Kenny to Sammy Lee coming in at Bolton after Big Sam left! By the way, Swansea had 57.6% of possession last season, we had 55%, so there wasn't really much difference in the possession stakes. (so far this season we've had 53.3%, but only 3 games, so can't read much into it). I think its fair to say we also played possession football last season, we just played it a bit differently. The difference is a slight change in mentatlity rather than complete change of philosophy, and its one that the players should be able to adjust to relatively easy. I would hope it won't take more than a couple of months of hard work on the training ground to get used to his patterns of play. The skillset of the players is all there, they are not being asked to do anything they either can't do or never have done, they are basically just being asked to be more patient, be prepared to start again and to press higher up the pitch.
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Its not like we didn't pass the ball around before hand!
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I agree. I went the reserves game against Palace and he attempted a bicycle kick, it was a bit like one Crouchie's efforts, although he completely mised the ball. But, it was a sight to behold, and I want the chance to see it again.
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From the bits I saw of that tournament (admittedly limited), Spain seemed to be playing him in a kind of Modric role. I think as a young lad though, he was only ever going to come in on the right for us, too hard for him to come in and control the game from the middle at his age. I think he's been great there for the reserves.
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I found it a lot easier to hear the questions and responses on the Youtube versions rather than the TAW audio version.
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He only signed a 3 year contract, so think he only has a year left, as I doubt its been extended.
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I think I read that he beat up some young lad. Should probably have said that whilst the transfer fees might not be too different, M'Vila's wages would probably be higher I would have thought.
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I'm not on either side of this discussion, as I haven't really seen enough of either to have an opinion of who is the better of the two, but when it was reported that Arsenal were interested in M'Vila, the asking price was stated as 'only' £17-18m, which surprised me. Only press reports though, so don't know how true. I'm happy with either.
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There might not have been any (although there were probably some) who said lets buy Joe Allen, but there were plenty of us who said we need another midfielder with the attributes that Allen has who can both play alongside Lucas and replace him if he is out injured.
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Liverpool increase bid to £15m for Joe Allen of Swansea - Telegraph I don't think having no competition for a signing is telling when it comes to whether it is a good signing or not anyway. Different teams have different needs and requirements, different budgets, different targets or may just know that the particular player might not have any interest in joining them.
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Ex-fucking-zactly His 'market value' probably is around the £10-12m looking at similar players, for example Arteta went for £10m last season, who has a lot more experience, but has zero sell on value really, Meireles went for that price range twice, Henderson went for a bit more but was probably worth about that. And his value to us is probably a little more due to us having a new manager and he is an ex-player of his who knows exactly what the manager wants, there is clearly value in that, even if you can't really measure it. But for years we complained about the manager not always being backed to get his targets when he only needed a few million more, Simao and Dani Alves spring stright to mind, and I think the manager should be backed. That does not mean he should be free to spend what he wants, but if it means paying say 20-30% over the odds to get someone who he thinks we need rather than his 2nd choice, then so be it, as sometimes it has to be done.
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With a 2 year old and a pregnant wife, I don't have the time I'm afraid. But If you have gone back and watched a couple of Swansea games, then fair enough. By the way, I wasn't just going on average position, but also the heat maps showing all the touches which have Allen having the majority of his touches in his own half and Gower what looked about 60/40 in the attacking half. This is the opposite of when Britton played.
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You may well be right, but they are different types of players being asked to do different things.
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So you watched the full 90 minutes of both Swansea against Stoke and Spurs, which were both 3pm kick offs? I reckon these guys probably watched the games as well Joe Allen Statistics
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Thats not actually true. Even if it was, Britton played in 35 league games last season, so we are talking a sample of 3. I've checked out the average positions in 2 of those games on Soccernet, Home to Stoke and Home to Spurs. Gower is the player who came in for Britton in both those games, and his average position was slightly higher up the pitch than Allen.
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You shouldn't be looking to sell your best players, but every player has a price, and that should be higher than their 'value' if you really don't want to sell, especially if it is one of the big spenders. I'd say Agger's value is between £15-20m, so we shouldn't be selling for anything less than £20m, but probably closer to £25m. The important thing is, of course, who you get to replace them
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At the moment, Spurs can be an example for us because they have been finishing higher than us. If we can do in our transfer dealings similar to what they have, then we have a good chance of top 4, once we get into the top 4, we then have the higher spending power to spend how we traditionally have, with the intention of fighting for the league. Without a sugar daddy backing us, its one step at a time.
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Well, seeing as Spurs is being talked about in comparison to us at the moment, they picked up Vertonghen for a reported £10m without being in the Champions League, so its not so ridiculous.
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Having had a quick read, I would say this TPI still undervalues Shearer now. They have calculated the TPI using all the transfers in each season to get an average, so it is a good approximation to tell the difference between what an average player would have cost at different points (eg what Fletcher would have cost in Shearer's time). The 2 main issues are, without giving it too much thought, that there are more bosmans now than there were around Shearer's time, bringing the average down, but also the price at the top end of the market has increased quicker still than the average price. Torres, on the back of an injury plagued and somewhat lathargic 6 to 12 months and having only managed to score over 20 league goals in a season once = £50m. Shearer on the back of being top scorer at the Euros, and having scored over 30 league goals in each of the previous 3 seasons = a lot more than £50m.