Manny

Indeed. The cynic in me also thinks we'd not long previously had Mac Allister's red against Bournemouth overturned; the last thing they'd want is to be seen to be doing a team favours by overturning reds repeatedly (even if there's adequate justification).

I can't be the only one who reckons it's definitely a red? I mean look at the side by side above next to Curtis' at Spurs - both taken just before their foot reaches where the ball is (demonstrating the intent). Curtis is pretty clearly trying to get a toe on the ball: his foot is below the top of the ball, studs down - about the only thing he's doing which could remotely be deemed "reckless" is he's stretching quite a long way, increasing his chances of his foot ending up somewhere it shouldn't. It's pure bad luck which sees this escalate into a red card. Calvert-Lewin has got his foot above the top of the ball and his studs showing towards the opponent. He's also in that position comfortably before he's anywhere near the ball. Why the fuck has he got that foot so high? It's just asking for trouble. As an aside, the more I look at the Curtis freeze frame the angrier I am that he missed a month of league football because of it. A complete nonsense red card, in an absolute joke of a game.

Just popped into the thread to call Anthony Taylor a fucking manc cunt, and Joelinton a yard dog.

He was probably worse yeah, but I’m still seething with Tierney about the first disallowed goal. The commentators are like “oh he blew his whistle straight away” but he doesn’t does he? There’s the incident between Darwin and the Burnley defender, then the loose ball breaks to Gakpo, then Gakpo takes a touch inside the next defender, then takes a shot and only when the ball is crossing the line does he blow up. What’s he waiting for, if not to screw us over? A Burnley advantage while we’ve got the ball in their penalty area? I don’t think it’s a manc thing with him - at least not primarily anyway. I think he’s got beef with Klopp and he just enjoys flexing his muscles in front of him in a “what are you gonna do, I can screw you over good and proper and there’s not a thing you can do to stop me” power trip way. He’s the worst cunt I’ve seen refereeing at any level anywhere in 30+ years watching football. In it for all the wrong reasons but the leadership of refereeing is so weak at the moment that he’s actively rewarded for his self-indulgent behaviour.

Absolutely furious here. This cunt should never be allowed within 1,000 miles of our games. He’s either bent or he just hates Klopp, but what more do you need to fucking see? Fucking cheating bald cunt nonce.

Fucking Tierney, game spoiling nonce

Not really, disagreeing with someone’s whose opinion I have zero respect for doesn’t really bother me in the slightest.

What does it matter to you if they "rock up and get parity" - how the fuck does it make your life any worse in any way? Is it taking anything away from the men's game? It's just a nonsense attitude - and don't try and compare it with experience in the workplace, because you're comparing individual career paths with an entire sociocultural phenomenon, It's apples and oranges. And yeah those pundits never made the grade - which is exactly my point. Nobody cares that Leon Osman (career trophies 0, career highlight scoring against the redshite) is commenting about Liverpool vs Arsenal, a game played a level well above his. So why is it a problem that a woman who never played at that high level is commenting about it? None of them are "actual experts" - they're just people with opinions. Sometimes they're informed on their own experience of playing the game, sometimes on their interpretation of events having watched a lot of football. Sometimes you'll agree and sometimes you won't - what's the big deal and why is it so offensive to you?

Why is it so terrible if it's given parity with the men's game? The men's game is absolutely everywhere, there are TV channels and websites and podcasts and YouTube channels chock full of it - tons of media covering it. You're never going to want for content on the men's game so why is it genuinely so terrible if it's given some sort of parity - especially when, as pointed out above, it was given precisely zero coverage for decades, and actively suppressed for decades before that? I just find it difficult to care. And on pundits - why's that a problem? You've named a few players there who did play at the top of the game - but what about all the others? Micah Richards, Leon Osman, Jermaine Jenas, Glenn Murray - all these players who played to a high level but they can't offer their lived experience of playing in the biggest games because they didn't, they played a level below that absolute top one. So we're splitting hairs really about how close they played to that level. Again, there's tons of football content out there. I don't tend to watch Sky Sports punditry or MoTD punditry because I just don't really care for it - I'd rather consume a different football media that's presented in a style and manner that I like and whose opinions I find interesting and entertainingly discussed. None of this matters, I just don't get why it's so annoying or what people are afraid of when it comes to seeing more womens footy on the TV, or headlines on websites about it, or pundits on the sofa. I find it far more offensive that Sky and other football media are forcing fucking gambling down our throats constantly than women's football.

Was concerned about this in the back of my mind all week, because after the last couple of weeks and the game last season, the expectation level at both clubs has shifted an extraordinary amount to the point where ten Hag knew he could be smelling himself about getting out of dodge with a 1-0 win, and our boys probably felt like they needed to put on a show and win 3-0 (at least) to feel like they'd lived up to expectations. The mancs just had to not shit down their leg to get a "well done"; we'd have to pummel them in a way we, historically, seldom do. I reckon it cabbaged a few heads that are already a bit cabbaged anyway. It feels like we've gone off the boil a bit - it's not a full blown slump in form, but we've steadily dropped off our best. I'd hoped this was the kind of game to reverse that but with hindsight due to the reasons above, it was probably exactly the wrong sort of game. Onwards, I suppose.

“We anticipate no issues with us willing this white elephant into existence”

Everton to stay at Goodison Park next season and move to new home in 2025 Really enjoyed this line: Not having the money to actually pay for the construction is a pretty big fucking construction issue. But then I’m a fan of Big Stand FC, lacking the imagination of your typical blue.

Spot on - and also to add, let's face it, a points deduction which will have an utterly minuscule effect on their season. Unfortunately.

I'm still not satisfied that they're dead enough, frankly.

Unbelievable. I mean, fuck these Saudi cunts but he’s a dangerous snide carthorse him and that’s a red all day long. They just make it up as they go along don’t they?

Sancho costs them £15.5m per year in wages and £17m in book costs. If they sold him to West Ham in January they'd need £42.5m to break even, but a much bigger problem is West Ham being unlikely to pay him anything like £16m a season. If they want rid, they'd likely need to pay up the difference between West Ham's wage offer - likely to be two thirds his current salary at absolute best - for the 2.5 years he's got left. And if you're West Ham, would you be offering him even £200k per week after his shitshow move? So I'd say they'd need a minimum of £50m to break even on Sancho, possibly even as much as £60m, due to the fact they chucked a stupid amount of cash at an unproven child as a basic salary. Incidentally, transfermarkt.com value him at EUR32m...

Absolutely hatstand. Absolutely, completely and utterly batshit hatstand.

Possibly my favourite Nunez moment that. Barely speaks a word of English but knows when there's shit going down that's too good not to be in on, and just wades straight in shouting. A man of action not words. Then he fucking buries the cunts and breaks Tindall's sunbed bronzed heart this season. Lovely stuff.

Everton booing as a form of protest is akin to us singing YNWA in E minor instead of C major or something. How anyone is supposed to notice, let alone grasp the significance, is beyond me. The pointlessness of doing it is proportional to its likelihood of success, I suppose.

His fucking premeditated “who, me, but I’m such a nice guy!?” schtick really fucking grates. Not sure which of these uppity twats I’d like to lose more mind.

Also - was just reading this: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/22/everton-points-deduction-will-be-additional-fuel-for-team-says-thelwell And fuck that club and everyone within it. It's been ran into the ground for half a decade and instead of realising that it's the club - it's owners, management and the fans who've clapped along like seals for most of that half decade 'winning transfer windows' and 'buying the Liver Building' - who the anger should be directed at, they're projecting it onto an entity that is simply enforcing a stated punishment for a proven rule breach. And does the club try and calm this down, pour water on it? Nah, they stir it up to hide their own worthless behinds and cover for their own utter failure. What should be happening is there should be a sense of relief that the punishment both could have been worse and could have come at a much worse time, and there should be a deep period of introspection about how they got where they got, and where they want to go in the future. Instead though there's just a typical tub-thumping, delusional rage at an external force whilst the real perpetrators stoke the flames and keep pointing them elsewhere. They're in absolute purgatory and heading towards oblivion, and quite frankly they deserve it. All of it.

Not only that, but at the time of the ESL row there was literally nothing written down about whether clubs should or shouldn't do that kind of thing - of course they knew it was morally wrong, but it wasn't expressly forbidden. As a result, when the PL came to 'punish' them, there was no set of rules governing what the punishment should be, so it just got made up (in fact from memory it was more or less written off as a levy or a donation rather than a fine). There is a set punishment now, but you can't go handing out draconian sentences for infringements that weren't even defined as such when they were committed. There's a whole section on what not to do with your finances in the PL rulebook, and a set punishment. They went ahead and did the shit you're not supposed to do, and the set punishment was followed. It's a complete non-sequitur.

Sheffield united wont even be in the fucking league next year but get a vote with long term consequences regardless, and fucking go the wrong way because of their grubby owners. And project big picture was a terrible idea.

Get in, you useless dirty chav cunts.