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  1. Couldn't care less if we finish 9th


    Couldn't care less about the Memes and the Twitter nonsense


    Couldn't care less if Everton win something and they have one as well


    Couldn't care less if we didn't have the actual trophy


    I want a parade, I want the lads on a bus around Liverpool so I can take my kids, I want Lallana and Degsy on that bus, I want them wearing new balance gear. I want the sun to be shining and I want my fucking parade. 


    Do you want your parade?

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  2. 17 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

    Henderson was never the Gerrard replacement.


    He’s been praised now, and rightfully so, because of the part he’s played in the teams development and achievements over the last seasons.


    But I think you’d struggle to find a single person who, when Gerrard left, would say ‘yeah, Henderson is the Gerrard replacement’ 

    He definately wasn’t back then, and he isn’t now imo.


    In fact I find the whole ‘replacement’ logic a bit odd. Great players and poor players leave, and new ones come in. The manager and the coaching staff builds new teams based on the players available. And thankfully with our current setup they do so based on a long term plan. 

    We’ll need a new captain when Henderson leaves, or when he looses his place in the starting eleven maybe. That’ll be sorted. But we dont need to worry about replacements imo, and I dont think we do either.


    Having the right characters in the squad to build a long term winning culture is a different discussion. I think we need that, and I think we have it now in Henderson, Milner, Van Dijk and maybe a few others. In that respect maybe Milner was far more important than Henderson a few years back, in him we brought in a proven winner, something that was lacking in the squad at the time.

    You're right in part that's why I said 'replacement', Shelvey was planned as his replacement as was Emre Can.



  3. In all seriousness though, I am unsure how you even go about replacing Hendo. Hendo is everything, the power, the desire, the fact he's come through a tunnel of shit and smelling like roses. You can't buy the experience, and everything that has culminated to make Hendo the man he is today and the impact he has on this team.


    Every time we've lost a legend you can't just go out and get someone like that person because it doesn't work. Hendo was never Gerrard, he was something different to Gerrard and the team has to adapt.


    If we want another talismanic midfielder, I do think we should be molding Curtis Jones to be that guy, Hendo was always the Gerrard 'replacement' but Hendo's seems not at all obvious. 



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  4. 4 minutes ago, Red74 said:

    Problem Robbo’s facing is that he has to babysit Henderson and can’t get forward to support the attack. 

    There was a moment in the 1st half were Gini was holding the ball up in their half waiting for Robbo to bomb on but he was nowhere to be seen. 

    There was another passage of play in the first half were we got the ball back on our left side and Henderson started running up the pitch with the midfield and Robbo had to tell him to get back.


    We couldn’t afford to take the risk yesterday of leaving wide open spaces for them to isolate Henderson in and Robbo made sure that our left hand side was on Wuhan levels of lockdown 

    Less so yesterday but even when Robbo was supporting the attack - both him and Mane ran into brick walls - time and time again. Newcastle was horrific 

  5. 1 hour ago, Alex_K said:
    1. We conceded 16 goals in 8 league games prior to Gomez joining VVD as injured (11 goals in 4 games prior to VVD's injury; 7 admittedly in the Villa outlier);
    2. We have conceded 5 goals in 10 games since Gomez + VVD were injured, and we reverted to 1 or more midfielders in defence (combo from Fabinho / Henderson / Milner). Fixtures incl. United (1st), Leicester (3rd), Tottenham (5th), S'ton (8th). 2 conceded total in those games.

    2 possibilities:

    1. The total absence of centre backs has transformed us into a singularly better defensive unit than the presence of VVD/Gomez/Matip (variously). Unlikely.
    2. The entire system & structure of the team has been adapted to compensate. Likely.

    When this system changes it impacts everyone. It impacts the time taken to reach the box. It impacts the position of the wingers on the touchline. It impacts cut-backs from the byline. It impacts position of delivery of crosses. It impacts committment of players to set-pieces. Everything.


    Against City, Wolves, Palace in recent months we've played as scintiliatingly as any games in a long time. Salah remains top scorer. LFC remain top scorers. Despite being top scorers, when 2 midfielders and/or Williams/Philipps have played in defence in league games we have struggled to fashion chances. These are the facts.


    The system (and Klopp football is nothing without its systems) is hamstrung at the moment. The mind-numbing levels of short term thinking posted across this forum this week is embarassing frankly. Everything from barbs at Klopp, Wijnaldum to the whole front 3 needing to be broken up to the entire team needing a rebuild. Just completely inane dribble. You'd hope the quantatively strongest LFC squad in history would allow for a more nuanced discussion. Apparently not. Maybe some are not capable of more than happy-clapping when we win and booing when we don't. At least their mentality is understood now. To note - we were odds on favourites to win the title 4 league fixtures ago.


    Not a direct strike at this thread - it at least posits options. More at the pessimists & idiots who really, really don't deserve what this squad has crafted over the past 3 years given the circumstances right now.




    I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but as I said this run of form isn't just limited to this season. Since January we've not been that good, now the intensity, pandemic, and the fact we won the league in the period does mean that the intensity levels had been bound to drop.


    When I watch them, they look devoid of any novel ideas. Yesterday was slightly different in that Thiago was picking passes that others previously hadn't seen, but that Mane and Robertson link up has produced very little recently, Bobby is effectively a passenger when we need someone to step up, and well Salah has been Salah.


    I'm probably just venting and i love them all to bits but the pattern of play is now becoming too consistent, and not in a good way.


    I think we could be entering a period of transition and if we persist with something that may have ran its course then we will suffer for longer.



  6. The poor form of the front three can be roughly down to three things in my view


    1. Firmino simply not being effective

    2. Putting Fabinho and Hendo in defence and losing the impact in midfield

    3. Opposition teams being more effective against us


    We've seen this a fair bit since even before the pandemic, and i don't want to be overly critical of anyone but is this just the start of a natural progression by which we need a new system and new players injected into the front three? Very rarely do you see partnerships last 2-3 seasons and perform at such intensity week in week out so maybe this is it? I'm not saying they'll never score again, have a good game, but will they ever hit the heights needed as a collective again?


    I know the defence has had a knock on effect on the team but the poor quality and decision making by the front three in recent weeks I think is actually a systemic problem for us now.



  7. 4 hours ago, Jairzinho said:



     I think a party that offers centre left economics and just shuts the fuck up about the queen, nukes, foreign policy, recycling, and transexuals wins an election. Liberals will either vote for them or vote Green or Lib Dem. They're less likely to vote Tory than white van man will if you offer the opposite.


    That's probably correct


  8. 1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

    I honestly just think they didn't know what to do. They had to fight a battle against the opposition, 95% of the media, and lots of their own MPs, and they predictably weren't sure how to deal with it. 


    In 2017 it nearly worked. Brexit and, frankly, a worse campaign, ensured it couldn't in 2019. 


    It's been said on here that Corbyn's supporters often see Corbyn as socialism. Like it hasn't existed before, doesn't now, or indeed didn't exist during his time as leader away from him. It's true obviously, but it's also true that he represented the first chance for a generation for it to be a reality. It is the reason that much bitterness still exists. It's the reason people don't have much time for politicians or media figures now saying "get behind the manager" etc. Because the people saying it are the people that did their utmost to prevent that once in a generation chance. 



    Socialism in its purest form is rejected time and time again by a large majority of the electorate, I think that is what living in a political bubble like Liverpool can really hide. Just 10 minutes down the road in either direction of the city the politics are completely different, I'm not saying this is right I'm just saying we can live in our own echo chambers. Again Tony Blair who when you listen to his autobiography could be David Cameron was the last elected Labour lead in what 40-50 years?


    The media point I think part of the problem is that our Left Wing Commentators are generally abysmal numerous examples of complete idiocy, Someone from Novara Media questioning why the brother of the Manchester bomber got the largest sentence given for such offences. Owen Jones being an absolute wet wipe. There isn't a predominant left wing news force other than perhaps channel 4 you could argue pushing a Left Wing agenda, not a socialist agenda but a left wing one. The labour voting areas that switched to Tory, they're not on twitter, facebook or consume media the way we do. They're reading the Daily Mail but they always have done - take my Grandad who passed away a few years ago.


    Voted Labour all his life, but read The Times and Daily Mail. Never voted Tory, wanted immigration controls, ex-serviceman, but voted Labour. The far left of the party think that view is incompatible with someone who votes Labour and what happened last election was the conservatives did a fantastic job of convincing the working class that Labour was the party of the elite.  Now do I think he would have voted Tory last time around, no I don't. But I understand how others in that position did.


    So yes the conservatives did a number on the media game, but that's because the far left of the party completely rejected the issues that those voters have been raising around Brexit, Immigration, patriotism and all the things associated with right wing politics, but still voted Labour. 


    I am truly passionate about all of this, because I feel that we're pissing in the wind with the Labour party in its current form. I don't apologise for being what people would call a centrist, but I genuinely hold socialist and left wing ideals, I just have a different view as to how you implement them - the first step being getting into power. The far left of the party are morally right I think, but the poor people can't live off £5 food vouchers whilst being self congratulatory and 'right'

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  9. 16 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

    Trouble is, any new party that espouses even moderately left wing social and fiscal policies would be hounded to the point of extinction by this country's overwhelmingly right wing media. In a blind test, the public found Labour's policies at the last election favourable - it was just Corbyn they didn't like. Why? Because apparently he was a terrorist sympathiser, Trot etc. And who told them that?


    I don't think that will change anytime soon.


    However, I'll vote for Starmer's Labour as it still represents a realistic, credible alternative to this shit show of a government.

    Fundamentally we live in a Conservative country, its in the blood of the country. It holds mostly centre-right views on immigration, taxes, patriotism and such likes. 


    Your stance on Starmer, is very much the stance I think Momentum took with the rest of the working class, but it took support for Corbyn for granted. Everyone said Corbyn did very badly on the door step for a variety of different reasons. Corbyn's message resonated with a demographic of society which was not representative of the challenges, issues and concerns of the traditional working class voter, so much so that we ended up in the situation we did the other year with a massive Tory majority. 






  10. 57 minutes ago, sir roger said:

    I think most Labour members / recently cancelled members will vote Labour in upcoming elections unless there are specific circumstances in the constituency , I certainly intend to at this point despite being underwhelmed with Starmer. The weird thing is that despite the more leftish Labour supporters always being blamed for fomenting disunity it is the centrist / right of the party who are more likely to pull a titty lip and look at alternatives if not in control of the party.

    I think the issue is that unless Momentum and those types split and create their own party, there is no vehicle to rally behind for a left wing socialist cause. 


    The whole thing just depresses me to be honest for a couple of reasons


    1. Doesn't matter what happens the government is getting elected again

    2. Jeremy Corbyn and his politics (for whatever reason) was rejected and to bang that particular drum again will not advance matters

    3. The last Labour leader to be elected was Tony Blair so what does that tell you about this country?


    I believe Starmer is playing the right cards, doing the right thing. I say this slightly through gritted teeth because I want him to be more aggressive, but if he does that, see point number one. 

  11. I'm ignorant to the challenges that Women's football is facing to be honest. I can only speak about my approach to it and also understanding the expectation that people have. 


    I only consume the 1st team, and maybe a little bit of the youth side of football. I don't watch anyone other than Liverpool unless there is a big game, and I have never really sat down to watch the women's game. Mainly because I care for it very little, in the same way I care for Cricket very little. I am not trying to be-little it, but the women's game really isn't on my radar and I don't think it will ever be.


    What is important however as a women's side is that we are well represented, well run and competitive, the challenge you've got is that the fact the side was relegated means very little to me. I'm just not bothered though even if the above is or isn't the case. I can't replicate he intensity I have for the 1st team for the women's side. 


    There has been some success with a women's football club down south which isn't affiliated with the mens side, and is competing at the highest level in women's football. That is not to say there shouldn't be mainstream support from the mens Football League, but I do wonder if to build the affinity for the women's game, actually trying to establish that out of existing mens sides is probably not the way to do it.


    I don't quite know where I am going with this but in short


    1. I don't watch women's football

    2. I didn't really care that they got relegated

    3. I think if we have a women's football side it should be well run, supported and competitive, but if it isn't and the men's side is successful then its a non issue for me

    4. Perhaps the City of Liverpool should establish a Womens Football Side with investments from Liverpool and Everton and grow the game that way - if indeed the ultimate ambition is to have women's football in the spotlight










  12. The thirst has been quenched, the dream has been fulfilled.  A generation of Liverpool fans (myself included) either not of age, or not even alive when Liverpool last won the league. Every year it has been the same, with a few false dawns in the interim.


    I feel incredibly look to have witnessed the club win absolutely everything in the 30 years, and now to have witnessed us win the one that kept us awake at night, and caused the biggest of heartaches in 13/14 it's a very fulfilling feeling. I don't think we will ever be able to replicate that intensity unless of course (God forbid) we go even 10 years without a league or CL win, but its done its completed.


    So what happens next? How do you feel? Where will be in 12 months time, and here is another one - What do we look like in 30 years? I have to admit my first point was to say, let go again, lets win it next year hopefully with some normality in society. I hope the players can hold onto that hunger for that reason. 






  13. I work for a telecoms provider and we used their kit in some of our services


    1. It performed better than Cisco and was easier to configure

    2. It was much much much more cost effective than buying Cisco

    2. There was no obvious signs of anything that could be deemed as malicious


    I think it's a proxy war for control over mission critical infrastructure between Chinese equipment and American. Might be being slightly ignorant but at worst what they probably (and I have no evidence to back this up) have in their is no more or no less than what Google or Apple are capturing in their devices. 


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  14. 17 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

    I see no problem in calling the massive political donors like the Koch brothers, Barclay brothers, big corporations the big media barons "puppet masters" or anybody you feel politicians try to please far more than they do the wider public. Saying politicians are in thrall to big money and act like puppets to their paymasters isn't about religion, race or culture. If you specifically only label Jewish donors as such then fair enough you have an agenda, there are people who do believe that conspiracy and it is harmful but their motivations would become apparent soon enough, you'd hope.


    The way I see it a cunts a cunt and should be called out as such. Peoples motivations are their own. There's a bloke I know who is gay and I can't stand him! he is a horrible person, I don't like him because he is a horrible person, there will be people who don't like him just because he is gay. We both don't like him, it doesn't mean our dislike comes from the same place. The difference is my dislike is retained for the individual and stays with the individual, he represents himself and nobody else. 


    I've gone round the world just to say I find it scary how people can try to destroy others lives by creating their own motivations behind what someone else has said. People can say things without fully taking on board the implications or historical meaning behind it or without even thinking how it could be twisted or framed, it shouldn't start a vendetta and an apology should sometimes be enough if it's needed. A white kid with dreadlocks isn't thinking about his hair once being a symbol of defiance for black people, the kid just likes dreadlocks even if he looks like a tit. Our every word shouldn't carry the baggage of history it should be taken in context with what we are saying and our character, who we are. We can't create a fear of dialogue because we haven't researched our every thought and played out the many ways it can be interpreted.


    Surely most people have the basic sense to see what a person means and whether what they are saying comes from a good place or not. Like Evertonians saying Justice for the 39, that doesn't come from a good place, it isn't said in genuine sympathy for those lives lost, it's a means to attack a rival. You can see through the veneer it's so thinly made. 


    So yeah. I just wish people would calm down take a step back and I don't know may be fuck off a little bit.




    We live in a society where judgement is instant, severe with very little understanding for nuance