FortressAnfield

The first time I went to Anfield I saw him score his last goal for Liverpool, a classic header past Jim Montgomery of Sunderland from a Peter Thompson cross. Only with us for just over a season, but did well. RIP. YNWA

I said in an earlier post, sell to anyone but Arsenal, Spurs, or any other teams likely to be chasing 4th spot. But, thinking about it, would selling to even them be so disastrous? He played for us last year, and we didn't get in the top 4. And he is banned for the start of the season, and could quite possibly/probably get another ban for something. And maybe we will re-invest the money wisely. (Yes, I know - a big 'if'!)

Does his contract say he has to play at all? Leave him out of the first team squad of 25 when it's named. Don't give him any football. Let him rot. Bye bye World Cup. No CL, because a) we're not in it b) he's not going anywhere. Tough. That's what I'd like us to do - it's about time a club made an example of one of these shits, even if it costs shedloads of cash. In the long term, it would be worth it for all football clubs. We won't though. The important thing is that if we get £40 it doesn't sit in the bank doing nothing between 1st September and 31st December. Getting £40m on 31st August, falling behind for 4 months, then buying a top class replacement on 1st January is not very sensible. If we won't destroy him, then sell now,and buy big now.

I haven't waded through 121 pages of posts on this matter - I've read many over the last few months of this soap opera, but nowhere near all - so apologies for repeating what may have already been stated. Firstly, would the poll figures be different if re-started. This has gone for so long, and Suarez has said more and more, that maybe a lot of people may have changed their mind. One poll option is "Keep him; he is nuts but he is world class and we do not sell world class players." Right - we should not sell world class players. But what if a world class player wants to leave? What if the world class player has dragged the club's reputation into the gutter? What if the world class player's tantrums and briefings to the press have now become a bigger story than the football? And what if his actions were a major contributing factor in the sacking of one of the greatest servant the club has ever had? I never want to see Suarez in a red shirt again. He doesn't deserve to wear it. Long ago, in the deep Dark Ages before 1992, a player would receive, I think, 5% of a transfer fee, unless he asked for a transfer. Obviously, long after the days of a player getting a cut of a massive £100,000 fee, Suarez is holding out for a share of a £50m fee. My hope now is that we sell Suarez for as much as we can get (unless to any of that group, which includes Arsenal, who we expect to challenge for the fourth CL spot, a spot we can reasonably also be hoping to challenge for). Sell him to City, United or Chelsea, if necessary: we may lose a few points to one of them as a result, but they are way out our league at the moment - it's irrelevant if Suarez' goals put them 40 points ahead of us in 4th place. Selling to Arsenal, for example, could gain them many extra points against other teams as well in the fight for fourth - we may get a £30 profit selling to them, but the loss of CL football will cost that - and leave us even further adrift from the top clubs. My hope is that until we sell him, he doesn't play, he doesn't train, and as far as legally possible, he doesn't go anywhere near the club. If he hasn't gone by 1st September, tough. We may lose some money before he goes in January, but someone has to send the message to scumbags like him. The average salary in this country is around £25,000 per year, and it costs around £50 to get a ticket for a match at Anfield (I don't know the exact figure - I stopped going 18 months ago, as I can no longer afford it). It's time WE stopped being exploited by THEM.

Phil Neville

Twat! Benitez' final season, and his time at Inter, were hardly impressive. Whining about a lost leader from a few years ago is idiotic. See what the position is at the end of the season eg is rebuilding underway, do we show promise, what was the position in the league etc. Bad result today on top of three straight wins. If, at the end of the season, change is needed (and changing managers every year will lead nowhere), then look forward, and see if anyone can do a better job. Or keep wittering 'Bring back Rafa' like a total halfwit.

Goodison December 1969. We won 3-0, and Sandy Brown scored a superb headed goal - Gordon West had no chance. Still remember it well. What made it so good was that he wore a blue shirt. Over 40 years later, and I still haven't stopped laughing. Best goal scored for Liverpool by a Red - Luis getting the winner in 2012. Ifithadntbeenfor that linesman... Best allowed goal scored by a Red - Gary Mac. Driving back down south that Sunday evening for another working week in darkest Norfolk when it happened - I nearly crashed the car.

Suarez Skrtel Allen

Being in the top 4 shows we are back in business, rather than jostling with Everton, etc. for a Europa League place. And it brings Champions League football with the greater prestige, more money and the ability to attract top-class players. Love to see us winning cups, but want more to see us winning the big trophies (League and EC, with the League easily the priority): getting to the top 4 really is a pre-requisite for that without a sudden and massive injection of cash.

The team that finished 8th in 1963 won the league the next season. It can be done. Not sure we'll do it this time, though. We can but dream.

Bellamy Skrtel Maxi

Don't think contact is the point. Reina was close to him, and moved his head towards him. Looked like an attempted head-butt. Red card.

This is a wind-up? No??? Well, Dirk tried when he came on. Shelvey looked OK. It would have been a lot better if Lucas was fit. Errr.. that's it.

Gerrard Suarez Spearing

Bellamy Lucas Suarez