JermainePennant

I've gave my reasons why I have doubts about Klopp many times and can't be bothered going over them again.Ill openly admit it's too early to judge him, I'm just saying my gut feeling is his spell here is not going to get us what we want.I may be wrong and am not predicting what will happen, I have no idea what Klopp is trying to do so can't predict what will happen. I'm the nutcase though, Klopp apparently took over a sinking ship.Thank god he did he took us further away from the cl positions then we were when he took over and finished lower than Rodgers worst season.I see why you all love him and put Rodgers in the same category as Hodgson.

He's spot on apart from what he says about Rafa, his point about the football being a lot better under Rodgers is correct though. I don't get involved in debates about Rodgers anymore because the ones who don't like him can't accept facts and they are frankly deluded.People saying he deserves as much criticism as Hodgson makes me laugh, Hodgson nearly destroyed us while Rodgers gave us the best LFC team we have seen in the prem.

Aren't you Klopp fan boys embarrassed to take the piss out of Rodgers when your man couldn't better his worst season with a much stronger squad.Before anyone says no one would have thought we would get past the teams we did in the el, yes some did including me who said it before the games.Playing big teams is not a problem as the players need no motivation, the fans got us through against Dortmund and Villareal anyway.I said before the final that was the true test as we were favourites, Klopp failed miserably. More good news tonight, while we hope we can get Medel Everton are trying to sign William Carvalho the Liverpool fan who is much better than Medel and younger.

Agreed, average player but any dm who's decent defensively and has the energy to get around the pitch is a big upgrade on what we've got.

Klopp has lied to fans. Now covering his arse for 7m a yr. Not a yes man though obviously #lfc Got that of Twitter and that's what you basically said without critisicing Klopp.If anyone believes Klopp is signing the players he is because of FSG then he is a bigger yes man than Rodgers ever was.

Spot on, I haven't seen Dahoud but if he is as good as some say and is the kind of player who controls the midfield it would be worth breaking the bank for him as we badly need that kind of player. We've been getting bullied in midfield for the last few years, I don't see a number 10 playing in cm as the answer.

I saw the games, as I said I don't have a photographic memory but he didn't play certain games and Rafa was trying him in different positions.Ive known about Wijnaldum for years and always wondered why he spent so long in Holland, watching him last season fuck up at crucial moments I started to understand why it took so long and why he ended up at Newcastle. He is a decent player and has potential but we have several players who can do a better job as a cm or am.I think we need a different kind of player in the cm who will dictate the play, Coutinho would do a much better job than him as a cm or number 10.

When I see replies like this from certain posters I know I'm talking sense.I haven't had any replies from Russ Atmosphere in a while and I hope it's not because of my comments in the gimp thread.He is one of the best posters on here imo and I said those things because he pissed me off in the Rodgers thread.He asked a question about Rodgers, criticised me when I didn't reply and when I did said get over it like I was bringing up Rodgers myself. Now I feel I may have been too harsh and should have just took it as a joke, he has my blessing to take the piss out of my posts when he feels like it.

I saw most of the games under Rafa, like the rest of you my memory is not perfect.Thinking about it I do recall him starting quite a few of Rafas first few games, he was putting him in different positions trying to get him to perform but he didn't.When it came to the crunch games at the end he was dropped.

I don't get your joke but while your taking the piss you insulted Klopp more than I ever have a few pages back.You said you think he's been told he can only spend a certain amount or something like that, if that's true he's a bigger yes man than Rodgers ever was. The only time Rodgers had to spend what he received was last summer when the fans had took away his power.If Klopp has agreed to spend a small amount and signed a new contract while that's the case then he's a bigger yes man and a bigger problem.

If that's the case then he must be worse than I think as he was anonymous.Ive got to laugh at some trying to say In talking shit when there's a lot of fans in this thread saying the same things. Another bonus of getting Wijnaldum is we will see more of Firmino up front and less of Sturridge, our best player will be benched for a player who performs in one out of every 5-8 games.Also good to see Klopp is spending money on 30 year old backup cbs while he lets a top player and pro go for free in Kolo. He also apparently still wants another CB which means when the other 2-3 come back from injury we'll have about 6 or more.For someone who gets praised so much for saving money he seems to waste a lot.

Yes it was, the first couple of games he started under Rafa but he wasn't performing.He then would come on late on in games and fucked up several times when Newcastle were in good positions.

Thanks for your support and for not following the crowd and saying Im a troll.Your right Twitter is mainly for attention seekers, the fact I don't go on there saying stuff to get retweets shows I'm not an attention seeker.I use it as you can go on there and get the latest news immediately, as I've said before if I was looking for attention I'd be on there tweeting people at the club or journos.

Benteke had a decent record last season with his amount of goals, I wouldn't say he's the most composed player though. I know what I saw from him at the end of the season and he has a problem with a lack of composure or decision making.How many of his goals were things like headers aswell, when he has time to think he normally makes the wrong decision.

Find that quote on Twitter and you will see most of the replies say why did he drop him then, funny these comments come out when Newcastle are looking for 27m aswell. He plays in the centre for the shittest Holland team I have seen in my lifetime, his defensive side is non existent and we need someone a lot better than him in the centre imo.We need someone who can dictate the play, we have plenty of players who make runs in to the box already.

He may have started 95% of the games under McClaren but he certainly didn't under Rafa, I watched most of their games at the end of the season.I know who's opinion on a player I trust more out of the two. I like Wijnaldum and if we didn't already have a few number 10s who are better than him I wouldn't mind him for 10m.We do have players who are better though so it's a pointless signing, he's a good technical player but when it comes to the last pass or taking a shot he lacks composure.

I've always said Rafa was my favourite manager and the reason I did not want Rodgers sacked is because of what happened after Rafa was sacked. I would still take Rodgers back but because of the lack of patience among our fanbase I don't think it would work out with the work that has to be done.Rafa would sort the team out easily with the money available so that's why I want him back. I said myself I know it's too early to make judgements about Klopp and I was holding back with my opinions, seeing as everyone was deciding Rodgers is fucked at Celtic after one month and one game I assumed it was fair to talk about Klopp. I'm not bothered if anyone replies but calling people stupid makes you look like you are if you think I'm a troll based on what I've said on this site.If we were signing Reus, Gundogan and Hummels and I was complaining you'd have a point.The fact is we are targeting players who didn't start for a team which was relegated. Also you say I haven't been getting bites talking about Rodgers, maybe that's because I haven't been talking about him.If I wanted to I could point out some home truths about things Rodgers has done better than Klopp but I feel my point has been proven long ago.

Im thinking we will sign poorer players then we did under the last manager based on the players we are signing now.Im thinking Klopps time here may not be successful because of him looking shaky tactically last season, his style of play and the signings he is making. I'm not saying we are fucked if we have any manager that's not Rafa, I do think the future doesn't look great under Klopp though and when his time is up I don't want the club to take anymore risks so Rafa should be the next manager.

Spot on, another baffling signing.

The poaition we are in now is the same as what happened after Rafa left, we had a manager who was doing a very good job but after one bad season he gets sacked.After that the new manager comes in and the bad season the manager was sacked for then becomes the norm, we also start buying players who are not at the same level as we were buying before. I may be proved wrong and I know it's too early to judge Klopp, part of me feels we may scrape a place in the cl due to not being in Europe.My head is telling me this is going to be a waste of time under Klopp and that things will go the same way as after Rafa left. Give Klopp his two seasons or whatever but if he fucks up its time all the fans to realise we need Rafa back.When that time comes they need to push for Rafa like they did with Klopp, Rafa would easily sort us out right now with the low expectations and big money.

We've needed a dm since Masch left and could also do with someone who could do Xabis role, everyone knows I was a big fan of BR but even I said it was unforgivable that he didn't sign a dm and left us with only Lucas.Klopp is going one better and is getting rid of Lucas and leaving us with none. The whole team would improve with quality in the cm positions even Moreno, his main problem is he gets caught out when he goes forward.I remember when we actually had dms that when the fbs went forward the dms moved across to cover them, everyone in the defence would look better with protection in front of them.

You must have missed all the posts I've made the last few days as I've been saying the same thing, good to see a few more are admitting Klopp may not be making the right decisions.The money's there but for some reason Klopp wants to carry on buying potential even when he has to pay big money. Klopp is human. He's made mistakes. He's made terrible signings. He's failed numerous times before. Stop pretending he'll turn a turd gold. Having blind faith doesn't make you a better fan than anyone, it makes you a moron. Same for the overly negative dicks who slate everything. Took those two paragraphs from Twitter, it sums up how I'm feeling at the moment.I can't see a shit player sign for the club and think it's ok because Klopp is choosing him, he like every other manager will fuck up in the market.Also so what if he used a similar strategy at Dortmund, it's not the best strategy is it and most of the top clubs do not get success with that strategy.Arsenal are excellent at what they do but haven't won a title in years, we are a poor mans Arsenal right now.

You keep bringing that up like I said something that was wrong, I said Barca wouldn't sign him but if he had come through their youth team he would have played for them.Allen likes to play the kind of football Barca play, put him in that midfield with Busquets and Inistea and he'd have no problem.When he makes his run forwards and try's to play one twos he would actually get the ball back and his team mates would be able to keep possession.

What is the point of buying players who have potential when you are paying the sums that will get a player who has already proved himself.If Klopp was signing players for 10m I'd have no problem but he's paying top money for players who are not proven. I'm sick of hearing Klopp doesn't buy stars like that's supposed to be a positive, if he wants players who he can develop sign them when they are cheap instead of paying money that could get us a world class player.

I thought he was on loan at Empoli last season, my mistake but it doesn't mean my other points aren't valid.The point is we need top players brought in for the cm position and we are signing more players with potential, I bet Milner is a better player than him and we need someone better than Milner in the cm position.