Randy Marsh

He used the term "ghost goal". So what? Really. He has praised tge supporters Right the way through his time here and Was doing so throughout the interview. Im not his number 1 fan and plenty of what he has said has irked me at times, but comparisons with Hodgson are laughable.

Some seriously precious and sensitive little lambs on here to get upset over those comments. He is praising our supporters and the atmosphere created that night all the way through the interview, he says he believes the ball didn't cross the line but the goal was given because of how powerful the crowd were. Really don't see anything for people to be offended about, it's not like this was Lampard v Germany conclusive. Christ. Something I don't quite understand these days is the need for every single comment to be micro analysed to the thousandth degree, looking for hidden or subliminal messages in every quote.

Season defining match for us. Fancy us to score, but would be surprised to see us keep a clean sheet at the other end. 2 or 3-1 for me, really hope I'm proven wrong. Thoughts?

He really is fucking boss though. We take for granted how unbelievable the lad is in every sense. Nobody touches him for work rate, attitude and application too. The complete footballer. I wouldn't begrudge him a move if at the end of next season we are still out of the Champions League. He is far too good a player to not be playing at tht level.

Does he work for Munich in some capacity? With Suarez's agent being the brother of Pep Guardiola I think it's inevitable at some stage that a Pep managed team will come calling particularly if our absence from the champions league continues.

I was open minded at the start and I'd say I still am now. I like the feller, I think he is genuine and honest and I believe his intentions are good. Football wise there's plenty I've been happy with and encouraged by, but there's also issues such as the defence which haven't really been addressed all season. In summary he needs atleast two seasons before I think we can make a fair judgement. We need to snap out of this idea that six months is enough to make a judgement, exceptional Hodgson circumstances aside. The club cannot afford to sack him and neither should they. It's been incredibly frustrating at times this season but I don't think the man is a fool. If we as fans can clearly identify the issues with our team then I'd hope he can to. He needs the chance to rectify those problems and one season isn't enough to do that. He is also a young manger who at 40 in his first big job will be learning a lot as well. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt and I won't be making any overall judgements untila couple of seasons have passed.

We are not underdogs at home to West Brom, Aston Villa, Swansea City and the like. Away at the Emirates or Old Trafford fine. The point Bobby makes is spot on. To hear how magnificent the players are after they've been turned over at home AGAIN is insulting to the supporters and insulting to everything that the club has been built up on. This goes back years now. One off freak results happen, last night wasnt one of those.

Bobby I think you've nailed it mate. As a club we don't just tolerate relative mediocrity these days, we glorify it, make excuses for it. The only thing the club has done consistently well over the past few years is drastically lower fan base expectations. I'm speaking as someone who is probably more sympathetic of Rodgers than most. I'm aware of our circumstances and our standing. I'm not expecting a title challenge or miracles. But it's just gut wrenching to see a succession of managers making excuse after excuse for yet another failure from our amazingly well paid collection of so called top class footballers against absolute cannon fodder. Shite like that shouldn't be coming away from Anfield with one point never mind three. Yet last night is no longer seen as a surprise and barely makes headlines any more. It's expected now, I wasn't surprised last night walking out of Anfield. We've seen it too many times before in recent years. And while the players are given excuses to hide behind they'll get away with it and we are all fooled in to thinking a lessons been learned a a corner turned. Bollocks. It's about mentality. It's why a poor United side are running away with the league. They're winners. They don't suffer fools and don't tolerate failure.

Agger culpable for both last night, plays Milner onside then caught in no mans land when the ball is played over for Dzeko at City, and fails to make any kind of forceful attempt to challenge Giroud's header at the Emirates. It's him who is concerning me most at the moment.

Just watched a few highlights now, haven't seen them since getting home last night. BR's comments worry me. "It was just one of those games" "The lads were magnificent" "The second goal was just a result of us getting forward, great finish by the lad" I understand that he has to put a face on to the media, something he seemingly enjoys doing, however I'm more than a bit concerned if last night and the countless other matches were we've cocked up big time are put down to being " just one of them games". Agger's defending one on one with Lukaku is disgraceful regardless of whether we had men forward or not. There are serious flaws in the team and in our play that regardless of any "we'll learn our lesson" bollocks that they may want to peddle out , just haven't been ironed out since day 1. We make the same mistakes over and over again.

Still can't get my head around last night to be honest. Witnessed some shite at Anfield in recent years but few hurt as much as that. I'm absolutely disgusted to be honest, no one is solely to blame but everyone is culpable, the players and the manager. I can't blame his team selection as I had no qualms with it before kick off so being critical now would be a cheap dig. My only concern is Shelvey in this advanced role. Why he is deployed in this way ill never know or understand, it baffles me. May as well play with ten men as starting Shelvey as the furthest forward. We were below the standard set at City and Arsenal yet still created enough chances to win the game twice. The manager can only do so much. He doesn't make Gerrard miss a penalty. He doesn't make Borini put one wide from 4 yards out. He doesn't make the full backs fail to beat a man or hit a cross past the first man. The players let him down big time. There is a recurring theme. We are great when the pressure is off, but when there is an expectation on us we go to pieces. Even taking the promising Arsenal and City performances, once we took the lead and the expectation was on us to go and see the game out our arses went and we gifted the points away. Last nights the same. Villa was the same. Oldham was the same. I've said it before after matches and ill no doubt say it again. Too many shithouses. Not enough bottle. Right the way through the team. When the going gets tough we haven't got what it takes. Defensively we concede whenever under any kind of sustained pressure. We are a liability at set pieces and susceptible to counter attacks. Agger's defending once again last night was an embarrassment, yet Skrtel is scapegoated. The substitutions did nothing. Henderson and Downing offered work rate and structure to our play. Our solution was to bring on two midgets and a 12m striker who I'm sorry to say looks totally and utterly out of his depth and that's me being kind to him. Shelvey strolls around the pitch with a swagger befitting someone who's been there and done it at the highest level, and ambles off the pitch to be substitued half paced when we are chasing a vital victory with 20minutes to go. No urgency whatsoever. No we'll hear all the "we'll learn our lesson" crap being trotted out in the next few days. It's bullshit. We haven't learnt any lessons. The same weeknesses in our game are exposed week after week, and not all of it is footballing ability. We lack character and without that we'e found our level. Mid table.

A lot of sense in this post. Ferguson is a winner. His success and the aura which he holds commands the same from his players. He intimidates oppositions managers, he intimidates the media, he intimidates the referees and the authorities. It's a cumulative effect built up over many years which means that even today with a squad that isn't a patch on some of his sides of years gone by, they can still steamroll their way through the division swatting opposition and threats aside with what is a seriously floored team behind the forward players. I'm not even sure this will end when Ferguson eventually fucks off. Never mind all this bollocks about Moyes and so on, the Manc board will not take any chances with appointing his successor. For me I think it's Mourinho nailed on.

I was watching that absolute abortion of a channel Sky Sports News on deadline day, and Everton's 'interest' in Alvaro Negredo was being discussed. That tit Purslow was waxing lyrical about Kenwright and the amazing work Everton have done, and how their move for Negredo was such a shining example of that. However, as the day drew on and it became apparently clear that their was no chance in hell Negredo was going to be rocking up at Woodison any time soon, little was made of it other than the line "Everton have been unable to do a deal for...". There was no mention of why when they were supposedly in for a Spanish and Dutch international did they only end up with a teenage right back from Barnsley? It was classic deadline day stuff from Kenwright and Co, have the world believing you're going full out to sign top class talent then trot out the hard luck story when it doesn't happen. A lot of their fans cannot be fooled but unbelievably pretty much everyone outside the club and in the media buy all this shit.

I think this season and last sum up United under Ferguson. Last season they lost the league on goal difference to their nearest rivals. Ferguson goes out and buys the top striker in the league and ensures that no one will score more goals than his team. This season they have been relatively poor in a lot of games but it doesn't matter because they'll still score goals and win matches more often than not. I wouldn't have their keeper, I wouldn't have their full backs and I wouldn't have their centre halfs. Barring maybe Valencia I wouldn't even be arsed about any of their midfielders. But none of it matters because their attack is lethal and I think that's the top and bottom of it. Man for man the rest of the team are good without being outstanding, but they are well drilled and have the arrogance and winning mentality drilled in to them by that old bastard and that's enough to ensure that if the front men are firing they'll have enough to beat most teams. The general standard in quality of premier league opposition helps too. I think that's Ferguson in a nut shell really. It's nothing over complicated or extravagant. He has always had boss attacking options who score a lot of goals, and a competent enough unit around those players.

I've got to be honest I've been a bit disappointed with Kelly and I don't think he's really kicked on from his early promise. I know he has suffered with injuries and I appreciate the toll that's taken on his progression but I certainly still think that when he is fit again and playing regularly he needs to up his game and push on to the next level.

@mrdanwalker: David Moyes has been in charge of 42 PL away games at traditional 'top 4' clubs & won none of them. 26 draws, 16 defeats #EFC #stat Everton aren't we

I can see Carra playing out much of the rest of the season, and Skrtel leaving this summer along with Coates.

Peter McDowall and Chris Bascombe have said he's had offers from the club but wants to take some time out first, aswell as a swarm of media offers. I'm sure when it comes to it and he makes his choice about the path he wants to take next there'll be a door at the club open for him. Supposedly he has no inclination currently to go in to coaching at this point.

Because that's what he is doing?

It will be a sad day when Carra hangs up his boots for the last time. I'm 25 and had a season ticket since 95, so I'm lucky enough to have followed his career right the way through. I was at his first game against Villa, and I'd highly doubt that after Stevie follows him whenever that day may come, we as supporters will ever witness another one club scouser who'll contribute as much to the club throughout their career as these two have. He is up there with the greats, and his Istanbul heroics will forever be in club folklore. From the 2004-2009 period he was truly world class, imperious. An absolute legend, and I just hope we can give him one more fairytail end to a season to give him the send off he deserves. Maybe he'll have a trophy to lift in Amsterdam in May.

Headline back of the Mirror today: Suarez: Top 4 or else.. According to Maddock he "admits he may quit if they fail to qualify for CL this season" The actual quotes: "We will see at the end of the season what our position is - we are not the Liverpool of old. This is a transition period with a new gaffer and new philosophy, but we would like to qualify for the CL" He then says how happy his family are, how he is "living a dream", and how in the next 18months he'd like to discuss a new contract. Words fail me to be honest. David Maddock you clueless shit-stirring incompetent twat.

Can't stand the ugly cunt so any attempts to publicly hammer him are welcomed.

I know a blue who knows more about our transfer dealings over the past 20years than Ian Ayre and Rick Parry combined. He absolutely despised Rafa, and on one occasion during one of his many rants he was laying in to him for keeping Heskey on the pitch during a match even though the whole ground was booing him and screaming for him to be subbed. I informed him that Heskey left the club a month before Rafa became manager but that was like pouring petrol on the fire as it just set him off even more. He was adamant to the point of shouting that he seen it with his own eyes. He once listed "all the shite" we've bought and quoted some ridiculously overpriced figure like 30m for Torres. When I told him we actually paid 20m he went off again, and boasted to having the paper cutting listing all our transfer dealings in his works van.

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that a clause exists which basically gives Uefa the chance to absolve clubs from the biggest media nations from any potential exclusion for breaching laws. If that's the case then the whole thing is a mockery and all you'll see is lesser clubs like Malaga being made an example out of every few years as a token gesture.

Just knew we'd be implicated in this. I know we're not in any way responsible or complicit, but it's just fucking Sod's law that we always seem to attract unwanted headlines like this.