JustTosh

Just trying to make a point in my own clumsy way how silly it is to say we’ve had 25 incidents and then not give us the details. I can only guess the incidents are so minor it would’ve been embarrassing to mention them. Answer to your question: Not true.

What about the 25 incidents then? What have we done to be labelled the worst of the pack? I’ve heard rumours that a group of 8 fans was caught on the Subway in Barcelona. Not one of them had a valid ticket. There’s also two persons who ran away from their restaurant bill in Leverkusen. 3 men were caught urinating behind a bush in a park in Eindhoven. In a Sevilla restaurant where they didn’t speak English one man was arrested for abusive language, when he didn’t get the potatoes he ordered. He demanded they served him Putas. That’s four incidents. But the rest?

Got nothing against George. But Tom nicks the price for his Guy from UEFA comment. And Tom looks like he could empty a few, while George looks like he´ll need an hour to finish a Martini. George with a pint of bitter? Don´t make me laugh. He´d need all evening, and then come back the next day to finish it. Seriously though, they´ve both done well so far. I´m still waiting however to see if they´ll deliver.

So, Mr. Guy from UEFA, your boss is trying to be a good boy now, he´s not doing very well but he´s at least trying to taste his shit. Now it´s your turn. I command you little shitbag Guy from UEFA; START EATING! What you say? ..... NO you cannot wank while you eat!

Good post, yet again RoboRiise. This is why supporters of every club in Europe that might one day be in a final staged by UEFA must now demand changes. More Athens and we´ll have a disaster. Better to deal with it before it happens me thinks.

Didn´t want to get on Rick´s back so soon. And I´m entitled to change my mind am I not? I admit I love Hick´s no-bullshit approach. Can´t wait until the 25 incidents are revealed. UEFA´s been shitting where they shouldn´t have. Now let them eat it! I admit you probably were right from the start, as someone else said: Let´s fight fire with fire.

William Gaillard, sometmes referred to as Gaylord, has now been given a new name. From now on his name is: The Guy ftom UEFA. Well in Tom.

This UEFA comedy/tragedy shouldn’t be between Liverpool FC and UEFA. It concerns every fan of every club in Europe. If UEFA continues to neglect the lives and security of the football fans and repeatedly stage finals like in Athens, we will one day have a disaster. That disaster could involve us or any other club with a big fan base. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to contact the supporters of the other G14 clubs, and see if a joint protest could be made? One thing is the outrageous accusations now being made against us by UEFA, but the most important thing must be to ensure that the upcoming disaster never takes place. Anyone got the web-links to internet sites for supporters of the other big clubs in Europe?

I don’t agree with you David. This is not about words or adjectives. It’s all about sticking to the facts and not let this outrageous attack against us take the focus of the real issue; the incompetence shown by UEFA itself. Actually I think Rick’s first reaction is good. There’s nothing wrong in using a civilized language. Stay calm and point to the facts. Demand that the report is made public. Demand evidence for the accusations made. But don’t let UEFA get away with this. Don’t stop until the real truth is there for everyone to see. In short: Keep your foot on the pedal Rick! In a week or two we’ll se if Rick’s handled this well or not. IMHO his initial reaction looks promising.

Nice start Mr. Parry. Now remember to keep your foot on the pedal. UEFA`s gone too far this time. Let’s get the facts on the table. Let’s have an enquiry over all the incidents. Let’s be on their backs until their case falls apart for everybody to see. Whenever something goes wrong on a stadium the host is penalised by UEFA. Denmark will now suffer for whatever went wrong in Copenhagen. Norwegian FA was penalised for what visiting Bosnian fans did in Oslo. But when UEFA itself hosts a match they’re never to blame. These claims from UEFA is an outrage. We must not stop until the truth’s revealed.

They seem to love their UEFA hymn. It´s always going on live at TV. Next CL-match we could easily outsing that silly tune. Make up a good song. What about: We hate Michel Plaitini. We hate Bill Gaillard too. We hate the twats in UEFA. But Liverpool we love you.

They seem to love their UEFA hymn. It´s always going on live at TV. Next CL-match we could easily outsing that silly tune. Make up a good song. What about: We hat Michel Plaitini. We hate Bill Gaillard too. We hate the twats in UEFA. But Liverpool we love you.

Good post Andy. But we should not forget either that UEFA year after year repeatedly neglects security issues. If UEFA doesn´t change their attitude towards these problems, we will have a catastrophy one day. That could be with Liverpool FC in it or not. The Athens situastion is probaly going to end with the world pointing their fingers at us. Nothing will change and one day .... may God forbid but it seems unlikekly they´ll do anything to avoid it. Just think what might have happend in Greece had Milan not beat ManU.

Wrong decision for the first goal or not. Handball or not. Bent ref or not. Better team than them or not. Bottom line is AC Milan 2 Liverpool FC 1. We got beat! So congratulations to AC Milan, Champions of Europe. Time to move on!

I voted "no". I don´t care about this not giving him a second chance. I´m worried he wouldn´t be good enough. His game has always been about speed, with the injuries he´s had and his age I´m worried he, like Robbie, would be a shadow of what he was, only never as good a finisher as Robbie still is. I´d prefer some fresh blood.

For those who´ve been lucky enough to get tickets, this is where we stay: CAT 1 = alongside pitch general public and limited tickets for both teams CAT 2 = corners for supporting teams CAT 3 = liverpool fans . neutral section block 32a or 4c - block 32,34,34,35 and 1,2,3,4 and 5 Seating Plan link: http://www.oaka.com.gr/seating_plan.asp

Think about it. There´s 9k neutral sone tx, and more than 20k tx for greeks and UEFA++. At an inflated price a huge amount of these (15-20k?) will find their way to the black market. Don´t be surprised if supply is higher than demand, thus lowering the prices. To be sure of a ticket you´d obviously have to pay over the odds, but I think prices will drop significantly as we´re getting closer to kick-off. So stay calm and positive and there´s every hope you´ll be sorted. There´s not going to be any competion from the Italians either as they haven´t sold out their original allocation. Those of you going without a ticket will be sorted me thinks. But please beware of forgeries. The way tickets are allocated is a tragic joke. They say theý want to fight touting, yet they do everthing possible to feed the black market.

I know it´s too late now, but for later occations this might be of interest. When applying through the UEFA ballot you´re asked to choose what cat. of tickets you want. Then you´re asked if you want a chance for another cat if you´re not lucky with the one you apllied for. This means most people apply for cat. 1 hoping that if they´re not lucky there they might have more luck with cat. 2 or cat.3, giving them three shots for a ticket. I´ve been told that´s not how it works. They split the application into three pots, cat 1-3. Then they make the draw from each cat. If you´re not lucky in the cat. 1 draw, you´ll only be in the cat.2 draw if there´s not enough applications for that cat., which of course it is. Most tickets in the UEFA ballot for the neutral section were in cat. 2 with fewer applications than cat. 1! I know personally 4 succesful applications in cat. 2, like mine. I don´t know this for a fact but it´s what I´ve been told. Looks like it´s the way to apply anyway. I was lucky last year and this year. Some of my mates were too. Seems to me like we had a 30% chance of winning. Advice is coming too late I know, but there´s allways going to be another ballot later.

I was lucky in the UEFA ballot and got myself a ticket for the final in the neutral section. I guess Liverpools 17k allocation is mostly behind a goal, which goal?

Probably better to drive all the way to Bari or Brindisi. Ferries going from both cities. Around 8 hour from Brindisi to Greece mainland if I think, and then 3-4 hours by train to Athens. Enjoy! Or you could gather 180 of your closest friends and book you own aircraft, that'll be quicker and probably cheaper too. Good luck anyway.

UEFA is a joke. They’re an accident waiting to happen. Security my arse. There’s a reason why supporters are kept away from each other at matches, it’s a sound security regulation. Yet UEFA sells 8000 tickets to what they call a neutral section for the CL-final. If we get to the final against the mancs, those tickets would sell at £1000 or more. The “neutral section” would be a section with 4000 Liverpool fans and 4000 ManU fans all mixed together. Interesting to say the least.

Is it possible to bet on ManU not playing in next years CL group stages (for what ever reason)? If so, what are the odds? Two possibilities; 1. Chelsea win the PL. Liverpool win the CL: ManU would then have to play a qualifier, wouldn’t they? 2. Banned

Why? Why is Chelsea starting from behind? These are words of a frightened man. When Maureen and his boys enter Anfield they’ll be vvvvery nnnnervous. Let us petrify them, let us give them this numb feeling of “Oh no, we’ll loose it, I just know we will, oh dear .. oh dear…”

Or we could just do as we're used to. Raise our right hand like this:

Let's make sure they shit themselves. Let's make sure we don't. We're Liverpool, we'll welcome them to Anfield. They'll be petrified. Can't wait either. Victory will be so sweet.