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The Gaul

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  1. Do you not think they've kind of stopped that now? Their signings this last year haven't been too bad. They've overpaid for some, but there's not the dross like they've been buying.
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    Thiago Alcantara

    Well he has all the choice he wants. He has a contract with Barca and if they don't want him to play, he can fuck off down the beach. There's loads of clubs all over Europe who'd benefit from coutinho who are miles and miles better than the Geordies. I can't see anyway he can't get a CL team or at least a decent club in the EL, there's no need to go to shit clubs like Newcastle and he'd be absolutely right to tell Barcelona to fuck off should they try to send him there.
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    Thiago Alcantara

    I'm not even counting Thursday as a match. Our players looked as pissed as me, it devalues any discussion even bringing it up. We've been to 2 CL finals running. We were knocked out this year because we weren't brave enough in the 1st leg and settled for the 1-0 - but that was the pace we chose. But we really twatted them at anfield and would have gone through with Alisson in goal. The only thing our midfield lacks is about maybe 8 more goals over the season between them and that's being really picky - it's got zero to do with ability to change the pace of the game, because we're wonderful at it. Our away form in Europe is exactly because we've been to two CL finals running. We're there to be beaten and the team we're playing it is probably their biggest game of the season, or one of their biggest games. We're more than happy to accept our fans can help raise our game at anfield then seem reluctant to accept others can do this. Our poor results on the road in Europe have mostly been in difficult volatile stadia with teams playing at 200%. We've also struggled at old Trafford and goodison and they're absolutely shit. You just can't win every game and sometimes there's another team - we're a team that is defined by our intensity and on occasion the other team is able to match us or even have the edge.
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    Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

    I reckon Willian is exactly the reason we've backed out of Werner. Wasn't Willian one of the 1st players edwards tried to bring to the club before getting beat by Chelsea? I like Willian, but he just doesn't have enough end product for me. But he's better than origi as the 1st off the bench.
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    Thiago Alcantara

    I don't think that's true at all. We used to have one way to play, but for 2 seasons our ability to control the pace of games has been second to none. In fact I would say tactically we've evolved year on year since klopp has arrived, that was our big leap forward after kiev. Hahaha. I can't see coutinho going there unless they're making him the best paid player in the league.
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    City and psgs owners are 100% here for the money, it's just indirect as it's the cheapest way they can make their abhorrent states appear acceptable to the west and get people flocking there. As for fsg, I'm under no illusions we're stuck with them until they choose not to be here. However that doesn't mean we should give them an easy ride. We absolutely shouldn't. We should make it as difficult as possible for them to take the piss. They spend a lot of marketing money on the back of the 12th man at the stadium and how as a club and fanbase we're somehow different to everyone else, how we some how have a different emotional attachment than fans of other clubs. Well if they want to trade on that, we should at least make them make some sort of an effort to adhere to these supposed values. I start getting involved on this thread over the last few pages because someone posted about the fans who are calling for "fsg out". I personally don't believe those fans exist, not anyone I've seen on here, I've certainly not hear any in the ground. It doesn't mean though while they're here we can't expect them.to try and be the best possible owners we could have. We should expect that and it would be still true if we were bought out by whoever is jammy enough to have a couple of billion down the back of the sofa. There's an area that between black and white and I genuinely find it astonishing anyone occupies the white ground and feels the need to be a fan boy of a bunch of hedgefunders. I'm not coming across anyone who occupies what black ground and believes we need to be rid of them at all costs, because we simply don't and any commonsense says we could easily end up with worse as Newcastle might be about to find out.
  7. I hate to say it, but I think greenwood looks a real talent. But the wanking over them today is mental. They conceded 2 goals against a team that had 8 goals this season shared by their entire starting line up before today's game. I'd like them to miss out on CL football as it's meant to be really thought for them financially. But they're fucking crap and if it keeps ole at the wheel, I'm in.
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    Well I'm not sure it's been quite the success the club wanted, they certainly hadn't booked all this summers slots for concerts etc before covid arrived. However, from a personal perspective I have no issue with it, but I live 2.5 miles from the stadium, so I think that's a matter for the club to be able to negotiate with the local residents. But if approached properly (like the 2nd effort on going multi use) I think the locals can be brought on board as the stadium is the biggest asset north Liverpool has. The more that's done in the stadium, the more you can bring people in from outside. The main stand could certainly be used for conferencing, although I imagine that's tough to do around a fixture calendar that is not always set in stone. If that could trigger investment as was considered some years ago getting office space as well as hotel in anfield, I don't think it can be bad for either the club or the area.
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    I don't dispute they're running the business efficiently for the balance sheet. But they're made some pretty big PR mis-steps in doing so (for relatively small amounts of money) which they've had to roll back from, furlough and ticket prices spring to mind, but I'm sure there's been another couple of things I just can't quite think in my semi hungover state. They do this stuff because they don't give a fuck and want to get away with whatever they can. They do however see the value in not becoming Mike Ashley and completely alienating the fan base, so on occasion they've back tracked because of the bad PR. As for they don't make money till they sell, well that's their business model and a perfectly legitimate one. I don't see there's any credit to be given for that, it's literally the path they choose to make money. They don't have to sell 100% either to recover their money, they could sell 10% today and have their original investment back. And as for not putting in additional funds - actually I think they should have done that at the start. The bought a business in distress, I don't think it would have been unreasonable for them to put something in to turn around the fortunes. However, I'd have settled for them doing the 1 thing they promised when they walked through the door, which is to deliver a 60k stadium. I'm happy they've chosen not to leave anfield, but that doesn't mean the only real beneficiaries should be hospitality brigade. It's taken them 10 years to get half way to the 60k from where they were and now things are on pause again because of corona. Now that's feels ok if it didn't take us 10 years to just get some pictures of the Annie road. Even that tight cunt down at spurs has identified a location and built a brand new stadium in that time. There's just no excuse for it. It's not like we're talking about billions here, it's the transfer fee and not even the wages of a decent footballer. I might even be more forgiving if we bought players without selling, but they don't do that either. Increased capacity pays for itself. Not as quickly as fsg want in the case of the road end (17 years according to the club, but then we've gone nowhere with that stand in 10 years, we could be half way done by now), but it does pay for itself. I just don't think the lethargic approach is about anything other than they just don't want to do it. When they came in they promised to sort the stadium, to under promise and over deliver. It seems they made 1 promise and never delivered. I don't think it's unreasonable to have expected them to put in some investment to move the stadium forward in a more timely manner. And I don't moan about the stadium because of my own self interest. I have a season ticket and access to almost as much hospitality as I want. But I want the most reds possible to watch their team. That was the promise.
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    I completely agree now we are where we are, it's very difficult to roll the clock back. It doesn't mean where we are is right or I have to be happy about it. Equally, I wasn't arsed what fsg did regarding furloughing. I thought it was bad PR, but I didn't get the shock around it. They've tried to milk every single cent since they've got here, why would that be any different. They're herefor the money, so they're going to try and make as much as they can. Juve are listed for sure, but I think the agnelli family have a controlling stake and don't trade their shares in the club.
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    I am not missing the point at all. You claimed no top sides were run by people with emotional attachments, when clearly there is, they just have a different way to operate other than being a limited company. I can add juventus with the agnelli family, although I honestly don't know how much of fiat Chrysler they own, but as far as I'm aware they run both fiat and juve.
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    Thiago Alcantara

    Perhaps he's shaqs replacement? He was linked with Geordie Arabia a little while back. If we can get maybe 20m for him, plus lallana's wages off the payroll, the deal probably doesn't cost too much.
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    I'm not saying having Adidas, Audi or allianz doesn't help. In fact it proves my point. They're there for guidance and not influential enough to make business only decisions. In fact back in the day Rick Parry was on the right lines when he brought Granada in, he just backed the wrong horse. And while real and Barca may be a bunch of arrogant cunts, you asked which major clubs globally are run by people emotionally attached. They are and are successful. Their balance sheets are shite, but their trophy cabinets are loaded and have been for a long time using that model.
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    Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

    Fair enough. As I say, I genuinely don't recall it. Was it just one good season he had then and the rest were ordinary?
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. When there's no emotional attachment from the ownership, you're just heading to becoming any other entertainment company. Nothing is done for the benefit of the product and only for the quality of the balance sheet. You speak like major companies over the years have never failed because they were run by emotionless businessmen, except business is littered with far more failure than success. Just because someone isn't emotionally attached does not make their decisions in the best interests of the product. I'm not doubting fsg are good businessmen I just think they're more interested in the balance sheet than the team sheet. And because of sports unique ability to have unwavering loyalty regardless of the quality of the product, it allows the ownership not invest as any other brand would have to. If Samsung stopped making good phones, people would just buy another brand, just as they did with Nokia or Motorola. Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich are all owned by fans as far as I know, perhaps I'm wrong. In this country obviously the best "franchises" have been gobbled up by American businessmen because we didn't have the controls in place for that not to happen, in fact with allowing clubs to list on the stock exchange in the 80s and 90s we drove ourselves to this destination. The wealth in football is such now where it would feel impossible for a local guy to own it as it's out of the reach of virtually every British born person who lives in this country. These clubs are vehicles for making money for its shareholders just like Weetabix is. I'm not saying I don't realise clubs are out of the reach of fan ownership now. However it doesn't mean I don't wish for a different state of affairs. What's happening over at Wigan right now is another direct consequence of running sporting ventures for the benefit of those who have little or no interest in the product their company creates.
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    Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

    I remember Costa doing well. I was always underwhelmed with fabragas. Thought he was great at arsenal obviously.
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    Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

    Interesting, I read in one of the articles yesterday about him he'd managed just under 150 games in 7 years
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    Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

    Yeah, but he also said we'd not contacted them over it so he could just be creating a market. My mind must be playing tricks with me. I thought fabregas was bang average at Chelsea. Does anyone know who his agent is? With all the moment we spend on agents, I'm guessing we have some agents who are "ours" so to speak?
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    So nobody has said fsg out and you're choosing to read between the lines? Maybe I am misunderstanding some of the rest of your post, but are you saying because they haven't sold means they're not here for the money? All that means is nobody has met their asking price. They're not stupid, with options around streaming, maybe individual club rights rather than a single premier league solution and a possible European super League, there is lots and lots of options for growth and increasing the club's value. The owners have even said they're interested in selling a percentage of the club and I think Barclays investment bank is still working on it, which is actually the model they've employed with the Red Sox/NESV. Just follow the path the New York Times took with their investment in NESV. There's your model right there. They're an investment fund, they're not here for anything but money. LFC will have its price (either a few percent or the whole club) just like any player on the books does - that price will move an an almost daily basis, but there'll always be a price. I'd sooner they weren't our owners, because I would like owners who have an emotional investment in the club, I believe that's what sport is about - that doesn't mean just any random LFC fan, but a genuine responsible owner who cares. Once it's just a business, well it's just a business. It's like saying you support Fuller's and your mortal enemy is greene king. I love beer, but I don't feel the need to choose one over another other than its taste. Sport expects a completely different investment from its customers and as a consequence I'd like a different type of investment from the owners.
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    Other Football - 2019/20

    Fuck me, this Norwich Brighton game has been grim viewing.
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    Pubs Re-Opening

    Fuck me, if ever there was a picture that says stay at home, that's it.
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    Coronavirus

    Kitchen roll mate. With kids around, it's an essential! It's my green garden bin mate. My purple ones are out front!
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    Coronavirus

    Pretty quick reply to that https://mobile.twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1279318634012303360
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    Go fuck yourselves FSG

    Is any one actually saying fsg out? They're a bunch of cunts who's interest is money not football, but I can't recall one post on here that's said "fsg out". In fact I don't understand what "fsg out" even means, I've never understood why some football fans think they can get the owners sacked, that in itself is fucking nonsense. They're owners, not on the payroll. If anyone wants the owners out, they need to find some new ones. The only reason we have these current owners is because RBS decided it was best for their reputation and the debt h&g had piled on effectively made RBS owners and RBS didn't want to own a football club. As for this utter shit "look at what they've won us", by either design or good fortune they got they got klopp - so credit for that. But those trophies belong to the brilliance of klopp (and his team). If we had any other manager in charge we wouldn't have won those trophies.
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    Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

    I could see us replacing gini with him if we can't get him to sign a new contract. Similar age, although Gini isn't another permi-crock. If we're signing him, it's almost like we're trying to give the doctors and fitness team a challenge as lovren and lallana are on their way out.
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