AdamD

Watched a game on Amazon at end of last season with crowd noise but no commentary or so called expert analysis. It was bliss to be able to watch the game with atmosphere but not have to listen to the inane drivel of the commentator and pundit.

100% this

FSG won’t withdraw if it costs them money

It was a response to Hendos tweet

Be interesting to see what punishments, if any, UEFA or PL dish out

Yup. Saw that last night. He was doing some back tracking on what he said on Sunday.

Got trapped down a back alley at Villa in 1984. Thought we were done for. Them at the last minute police came round the corner. Was relieved I don’t mind admitting

This has turned in to a bit of brain dump but fundamentally the ESL stinks but so does lots of other aspects of football. The ESL has been a long time coming and in my opinion is the latest evolution which can trace itself back to Hillsborough and Gazza’s tears at Italia ’90. For those curmudgeonly old gits like myself football will never be as good as the 70s or 80s due to a mixture of our unparalleled success and exhilaration being on the Kop swaying, singing and going crazy after each goal. However I am not that naïve to say that football didn’t need to change. Standing at football was dangerous at times, the toilets (I use the term loosely) were no better than ones in Victorian slum housing long since pulled down and getting legged at away games wasn’t really much fun. So I personally was in favour of all seater stadia, Sky paid the clubs decent money and teams have played better football as players have got fitter, faster and we have attracted better players from around the world. In Europe the Champions League isn’t really for Champions but I don’t think many could argue that it isn’t a good competition with some great games, once you get past the first group stage. Therefore I am in the camp that by and large the Premier League and Champions League have moved football forwards and like society I don’t agree with all of the outcomes but we have to accept it is where we are. I hate the idea of the ESL and for me it will be a step too far and possibly the straw that breaks the camels back. But I don’t for one minute accept all this collective anger and shaking of heads by the football establishment. Sky – fuck off with your holier than thou approach, you have tried to airbrush football pre 1992 from history. You have steadily increased subscription costs, changed kick off times all to suit you, the broadcaster, not the fan. Pundits – fuck off – if the so called “big 6” leave the remaining competitions are devalued, broadcast rights are worth less and this could flow down and mean you get paid less to spout the bleeding obvious shite that you pass off as insight. Neville / Carra, you kept quiet about the Glazers and Hick and Gillett when you were pro’s and Millie post-match interview against Leeds said more than you two ever did. UEFA / FIFA – fuck off – you have had your hand in the till for years as evidenced by Blatter and Platini. Your lenient approach to racism is a joke and handing down small fines to clubs is an insult to our intelligence. You have handed out World Cups to regimes with questionable human rights records and countries which think it is ok to poison the citizens of other countries. All clubs – fuck off - you have priced the ordinary fan out if going to the game and at the same time increased the salaries of players and staff way out of kilter with the rest of society on the back of tv money which the ordinary person has funded. 14 clubs / smaller clubs – fuck off – without the so called “big 6” you will have a less valuable commodity so perhaps you will have to face facts and accept that that the distribution of TV money may not be as equitable in the future. You too can fuck off with your sanctimonious hand wringing as you always do what is best for you - 3 subs, null and void - just fuck off you equally as arrogant twats. European Union – Your intention was honourable but making the Premier League put batches of games out to tender ended up costing the armchair fan so fuck you too. IFAB / PGMOL – Being honest I was in favour of VAR as I thought it would eradicate mistakes when all it has done has taken away the enjoyment and shown that the officials at best are compounding their errors or worst covering their arses or for their mates. You have taken the joy from the game. UEFA (again) – fuck off – you had a chance with FFP and you cocked it up which I think has led to some owners, possibly FSG, thinking they have to increase their income because the cost base will continue to spiral as Citeh, United and Chelsea will just throw endless money at it. Not an excuse for FSG by any stretch of the imagination. Agents – the like of Raiola swanning round Europe (what lockdown?) pimping his player is just another example of the depths to which football has plummeted. What exactly do these people add to football compared to the millions they take out of it! The Tories – fuck off – don’t talk about greed! That is as breathtaking as the 6 clubs arrogance. So what’s my point, the 6 clubs are totally and utterly bang out of order but the vested interests i.e. all of the above organisations / individuals cannot be allowed to let football go back to way the it was on Saturday night because they all win and the fans lose by having to pay more and more for a game that is being corrupted and having its enjoyment spoiled at each turn. So, all of those people above that vented their anger and have spoken up, good on you, but do not think that your actions are not part of the problem and therefore you have a duty to solve issues that need to be fixed.

Tyler and Neville commentary so it’s the mute button in action straight from the off

He needs to do some serious fitness work next Pre season

To be fair so far Craig Pawson has reffed this one pretty fairly

String three passes together and we fucking score. It is a simple game

If we string together a decent spell of pressure and passes we will win this

Turned off the sound already

Forget us for a second Chelsea have worked seriously hard in this game. A bit like we used to do. We just look leggy all the time

Turned down the sound

I finished with him when he gobbled on that young girl

Not even booked Gomez. What a joke

I have turned the sound off. Carra is almost as bad as Tyler

Crackle will be smug beyond belief at the end of this

Martin Skrtel

One of my all time fave non LFC games

Since he came back from calf injury he has been very very poor. Over confident and too cocky

Don’t forget Europa League for them will also be a factor

That was the type of game where Coutinho is missed.