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This is what I mean about arguing with the left. They come back with something that makes you go "What the fuck..???" It's why you can't win an argument with them and why it's usually best not to try to. When you're the only one trying to be reasoned, you're the only one going to get stressed about it.

To make a political point about nationalising train services, Corbyn broadcast that he had to sit on the floor because he couldn't get a seat KNOWING that that wasn't true because he'd just walked past plenty of empty seats. His story being easily proveable as lies doesn't discredit the policy of nationalising train services or distract from people's every day misery on the trains. It simply highlights what a cunt he's made of himself and how amateur and lacking in integrity his team are.

Corby and his team had just lied about seating availability on that service. Why wouldn't any company call him out on it and release CCTV proving they were lying?

Everyone knows that the train services in this country are shite, everyone thinks it's astronomically expensive, everyone would like someone to do something about - possibly even nationalise them. Everyone can also now see that lies, bullshit and spin are as much a part of Corbyn and his team's make-up as any other lying snake oil merchant politician. That's a fact. A lot of you may see him as some kind of Messiah but if he is, it turns out the Messiah can lie and spin just like the rest.

Yes, quite. Let's sweep this inconvenient story about Corbyn and his team's pathetic untruthful stunt under the carpet and remind ourselves that despite the obvious lies told by them all, Corbyn and his merry men are bringing us a new type of decent politics.

Still you ignore the CCTV. Still. You may as well be arguing that black is white because that would be just as logical. I'm laughing at you. Labour are fucked. If Corby wins they will have a leader blindly supported by most of the (new) membership but not by the wider electorate - electoral annhiliation. If Smith wins they will have a leader who wants to give an almighty 'fuck you' to the normally natural Labour voters who voted 'out' in the referendum - electoral annhiliation. I think it's great. Terrible for democracy but it's great that politics has recently been so entertaining, and not by design. It's because they're all pricks.

Chortle! The hard left really are the gift who keep on giving. Corby gets on train Walks past several obviously empty seats Finds another rammed carriage Sits on floor Makes political point about insufficient seats Isn't that what most people would call a lie? Clearly this 'new type of politics' doesn't bend as far as being truthful and honest. And yet you have the hard left coming up with various desperate rationale such as 'why did no-one tweet that he was making it up' to discredit the CCTV. You can't win an argument wih the hard left because you find yourself debating more and more outlandish irrelevant off-topic and downright stupid points that you could end up going mad. This thread evidences that. Yup, the gift that keeps on giving... Good day to you all.

Wow. Did you or anyone else on here hold that view about the EU referendum result? Or were those who voted out called everything under the sun?

Oh dear. You haven't really researched this well at all, have you? I can't be arsed posting links but even a cursory Google search of 'electoral fraud in Asian communities' shows how big, serious and endemic a problem the authorities consider it. Guess which area appears on the list? Okay, you don't need to guess. It's Oldham. So, it turns out it's not racist to say that members of certain Asian communities have been committing electoral fraud - it's true. And following the predictable leftie faux outrage , the Attorney General was made to apologise for highlighting the problem. Not that he was wrong, mind - he just shouldn't have mentioned it. A truly shocking example of how discussions of problems in minority communities get shut down under the banner of 'racism'. You have embarrassed yourself there, mate.

It was a hypothetical stake and you know it. If you're going to have a go at me don't make it over something so ridiculously trivial. I've always right from your first post thought better of you.

I have never defended Kelvin Mackenzie. If Farage is so obvious a racist you MUST be able to readily post obvious proof...

Mate - I responded to this in an earlier post.

Name me any large economy that does not grant temporary work visas. Name someone who refused to take up a temporary work visa because it made them feel like chattel.

You are so convinced he is a racist so it must be easy for you to be able to prove this. Tell you what, I'll make it easier for you. I won't even ask you to prove it to the standard where you would be satisfied of not losing your house at a libel case. Prove it to the level where, say, a book-reading club in an area that voted Leave would be convinced by your arguments.

That you don't see 52% as 'winning' an election/referendum and 48% as 'losing' said election/referendum is weird. What a truly bizarre thing you've said there...

What this whole discussion, and many more like it, prove is that you can never engage a leftie or a diehard liberal in reasoned discussion, but especially the lefties. They will shout at you, scream at you, abuse you, try to belittle you, insult you, move the goalposts, accuse you of any kind of -ism that suits their agenda, obfuscate the issue, change the subject, concentrate on any minor point you may make to distract from the major point, and best of all refuse to accept reality when it stares them in the face or bites them on the arse as it has with the referendum. If anyone wants to hold hard left views then fine, however try to discuss anything with them that goes against their doctrine and they turn rabid. It's really very, very funny.

There's that spurious allegation again. It surely has to be the most used word in these forums.

i) What is wrong with those shoes other than crimes against style? ii) Vladimir - prove Farage is a racist. (And THAT poster does not prove he is a racist despite how crass it was)

Don't then. We both know it's because you can't.

Troll? I've been on here a lot longer than you. I am simply taking a lot of pleasure from the howls and cries of 'foul' and about how democracy has failed, because it's worth laughing at the hard left who finally have their comeuppance. That they can't see they are to blame for this is doubly hilarious.

Okay, let's play this game. You make a list of the Remain supporting media outlets and I will do the same with Leave ones. Over to you... And, yes, you are disgusting.

IT IS THE POLICY OF THE EU FOR TURKEY TO JOIN THE EU. Assistance is being given to Turkey to prepare for entry. THEREFORE TURKEY WILL JOIN THE EU. Honestly, the bitter losing side in this just will not accept reality. And it's bloody brilliant! Still laughing at you... PS Anyone on the losing side who isn't bitter is welcome anytime for reasoned discussion - something completely absent here. Which, of course, only makes it funnier!

It's not a lie. Turkey will join the EU because the EU want it, the UK government wants it and Turkey wants it. If it's EU policy that means it's the policy of every country in the EU including Greece and Cyprus. To say there is no chance is an outright lie. Turkey will join the EU.

That is no lie. It is the policy of the EU and of our own government to get Turkey into the EU as soon as possible. Cameron's claim that we could veto it was meaningless when he himself has been a drum basher for Turkey joining. Veto, my arse.

It's not like this forum for people to make spurious allegations of racism against others, is it? Which is the point I was making and which you missed, unfortunately.