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thechap

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  1. I never said this was. I am confident that it's a great outcome. The non-disclosure of the details is, I believe, being used mischievously by the Remain camp and is a red-herring. Unless I've missed a Brexiteer (in the media) complaining about the announcement, no prominent Brexiteer has complained. The issue seems to be another anti-Brexit stick with which to beat the government with. As those complaining about not knowing the details know or should know, details of government conversations with industry are sometimes commercially sensitive. Given what negotiations are coming up in the next two years, those details quite likely are even more sensitive. To put it back to you, are you not happy that thousands of UK jobs have been secured as has many millions of pounds worth of exports? Why would anyone view such an announcement as not a success? (For the avoidance of doubt and preventing an argument, I am not saying YOU don't. I haven't trawled all your posts on the issue because I'm not that sad. You may well view it as a success, you may not - I don't know but I would like to know)
  2. I'd advise you to pause from eating crisps and picking your nose to take some deep breaths but as I realised years ago with you Stronty, you are well past saving. If there's one person on this whole forum who deserves no luck, it's you because you're an awful human being.
  3. What was 'landmark'? Neither Nissan or the Government have mentioned a deal. You can bet the the German, Italian, Spanish and French governments are talking to their car manufactures as well as ours has been, assuring them that their Governments want to protect their industry from unnecessary harm. And why wouldn't they? I can imagine why the government and Nissan might not want to disclose the details of the conversation and my first thought is that it might affect negotiations once Article 50 is invoked. Just a guess but probably a good one and as I am keen for the UK to secure the best possible deal, I couldn't give a toss that the details aren't disclosed. Rather I'm very happy at this huge and significant success story. Nissan have announced that Brexit hasn't stopped them from expanding their UK operation and hugely further investing in this country. You would think it would be good news to all. Not to all though - to some it's sinister. Weird priorities, some people. See? A pleasant conversation can be had when people don't abuse or sarcastically insult others.
  4. So you're saying you do give a fuck now? What happened mate? Why change your mind to a polar opposite view? You're very stressed and angry. So is SD. Anyone who responds to others' posts so angrily is stressed. Seriously mate, you need to take some deep breaths before you post. You'll feel better. Breathing technique can help with a lot of things. Try it.
  5. Very happy to answer this reasonably put response. Of course simply refunding tariffs would be illegal so could not be done. Not aimed at you mate but I should have put my point in more explanatory terms rather than expect people to think laterally, ie intelligently. Like a clever accountant who can make a company profit look like a loss and vice versa, there would be huge scope for a government to get the tariff charges back to exporters other than by illegally simply paying the equivalent amount of cash back. Government grants could easily be provided to exporters for anything from energy saving grants to training grants or apprenticeship grants to grants for infrastructure improvements that would benefit an exporter. The only limit on the ways to pay back, in the form of grants, tariffs paid out by a company is accountants' imagination. All legally done. I'm not saying it would be done overnight but with careful planning and execution, a hell of a lot of the costs to UK exporters of EU tariffs could be mitigated and the UK woukl still be in profit to the tune of a few billion from the tariffs we would charge on EU exports to us. I don't work for the government or civil service creating grant schemes so don't ask me to describe the detailed mechanics involved. Or the EU could decide that the imposing of tariffs would be bad for everyone and agree not to do it. Anyway, thanks for making your point in a civil tone.
  6. Ignoring the insult, why are you so vociferous on the subject when you don't give a fuck about it? You seem so stressed and angry about it that it can't be doing you any good. How angry do you get over issues you DO give a fuck about?
  7. No, please, finish the job. If by doing so you "sort my life out" I would be grateful. What "really stupid things" am I "stupid enough to encourage thick people to do"? You are obviously a lot smarter than I am so you'll be able to list at least some these "really stupid things" quite easily, I'm sure. Over to you.
  8. Thanks for clearing that up as your previous post was a bit ambiguous. Cheers.
  9. Wow. You are another SD. You are a horrible, truly horrible individual. Funny really, for someone who at the start of the thread they "couldn't give a fuck if the UK left the EU" you have a hell of a lot to say and abuse to throw around about Brexit, Brexit voters and the future of the UK after Brexit. Your constant vile abuse marks you out as being not very smart or nice. Good day.
  10. I hope all of them and I hope the government tells them that they will reimburse their tariffs from the money we make from tariffs against EU companies. We would still be a few billion better off doing nothing more than giving our firms government support that goes on elsewhere around the EU and around the world.
  11. You'd rather they'd announced they were pulling out of the UK, wouldn't you.
  12. And on the flip-side of that coin, it's almost as it the Remainers are convinced that their vote has no downside and that there's no upside to a devalued pound. You people can't do enough to encourage it to go tits up just so you can be pleased with yourselves.
  13. Several million more people using public services does not put a strain on those public services? Wake up. It looks like the CETA deal is dead in the water thanks to a tiny region of the EU not agreeing to it, after years of negotiation. You've got to laugh at the EU! I'm damn certain there's a hell of a lot more goodwill around the world towards the UK than there is towards the EU. We will quickly develop mutually beneficial agreements with such countries (I'd be surprised if there weren't unofficial exploratory talks already going on) to more than make up for any increased costs of trade with the EU (which I will be very surprised to see considering the European car manufacturers don't want to suddenly find German or French cars become a lot more expensive in the UK than Japanese ones - not to mention the many other European industries who NEED a trade agreement with the UK) Fortunately, none of the doomsayers on here will form part of the negotiating process so there'll be no-one there on our side talking down our own chances of success. Like I said, fucking Losers. Literally.
  14. Jesus. What fucking gibberish. I made a post a while back about why you shouldn't engage the left in debate. They obfuscate the issue, twist what you say and shout over you rather than let you speak. This gibberish along with plenty of other nonsense posts in this thread prove my point correct. I am STILL laughing my tits off at your collective outrage at the Brexit vote. I'm laughing my tits off at how you collectively want the EU to fuck the UK up the arse. Fucking losers. Literally.
  15. Ah yes, back to that one. Immigrants generate more money than they cost. Ignoring for a moment that there are varying reports which, on average, say the cost balance is equitable, we're back to one of the main Remain arguments. The amount of money immigrants generate. A lot of people who voted Leave are people who have not benefited by a single penny from this extra money they've generated. Instead they have had to see their communities change massively, against their wishes. So, you carry on ignoring and berating the opinions of those who are affected most by mass immigration - you keep concentrating on the money. Which - oh look! - makes you a lot more tory than you would like to think you are.
  16. Good. That means I won't have to roll my eyes at having to respond to yet another knobhead comment from you. Saved me the bother - thanks.
  17. You're right, nobody actually says those words. However in the blind rush to demonstrate how humanitarian they are some idiots on here and elsewhere don't stop to consider that not everyone might be a genuine refugee, not everyone might be a child when they say they are, not everyone will have relatives in this country when they say they do have and that there might, just might, be a few of them we're welcoming in who, if we looked more closely at who they are, might make us wish we had turned them away. Or question why they haven't sought asylum in the many safe countries they've already passed through. Cameron had it right - take refugees from the camps already set up in the region, not those who have passed through safe country after safe country to try and get to the country with the weakest regime for sorting out the genuine refugees from the bogus ones.
  18. Nice. So you too think it doesn't matter if we let in the odd murderer, rapist or violent thug then? Or perhaps even the odd IS sleeper?
  19. Fucking hell Vlady - I despair for you sometimes. Let me explain what is the very simple point I was making: Whoever created and/or posted that list was clearly doing it from an anti-Brexit vote perspective. The thing is, the EU were nothing to do with anything* on the list. They were more to do with the incompetence of successive governments and industrial leaders. So, what I'm saying is that the creator and poster are resorting to any ANY old nonsense and shite to support their anti-Brexit stance, even to the point of spouting something that is actually neither pro- or anti-EU but has been bizarrely slanted to sound anti-Brexit, thereby weakening their overall position because they are showing how unreasoned their arguments are. Do you get it now? And for those who would say "Ah ha, the list shows that you can't trust this government with Brexit because look at all the incompetence on this list" I would say that the hand of Labour and it's incompetence is all over that list too. If you still insist that the list is a relevant point then by extension your argument is that we as a nation are unfit to govern ourselves. Which is what a lot of you seem to think anyway, bloody doomsayers. *I would certainly argue that the EU freedom of movement principle has very much contributed to the both the shortage of housing stock and the problems in our schools of lack of places.
  20. Delays my arse. Turn up a bit earlier and accept that security checks are necessary. And yes, the Frence ferry operators would implement the checks they are told to implement or they would face massive fines.
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