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Coote and Atwell on VAR might be an even worse shout than taking Oliver and Taylor. All they do is sit back and look for ways to say the on field ref got it right. Pair of fucking stooges. That being said, who would you send? They're all fucking useless.

Yeah but this is good old blighty, we don't go in for none of those shenanigans here. That's only a problem for bloody foreigners.

Not gonna lie, I always thought it was welch, not welsh.

That's a great post. I wish I could feel like that. I'm still annoyed as fuck by the last few weeks though!

Yeah the statement I saw this morning is exactly what they should have done after the game, not that childish, awfully worded tweet. Did themselves no favours in how they delivered the message, which undermined the actual message and made them look like the knobheads, instead of PGMOL.

Nah it's straight at him. I'd expect any top flight keeper to save that. Lovely strike though. Van Dijk celebrating before Gravenberch had even set himself to shoot was quite the thing though.

As distasteful as football has become, this plumbs new depths. Awful.

Some proper nerd shit going on in this thread!

Yeah, he used to be very good. He was by far the best ref, whereas now I don't even know who the best one is. Not him though, that's for damn sure.

U21s 2-1 down at Sunderland with 5 minutes left and they're lucky it's not much worse. Been shite since Koumas scored early to give us the lead. Mrozek is the only reason it's not 4 or 5. Danns has been subbed for Blair.

Yeah but Howard Webb won't be told what to do. The SYP runs deep in him.

Keith Hackett said today when he was head of refs (and before that when he was just a ref) it was standard policy to find out who every ref supported and ensure they didn't referee their own team or any local rival. Then when it reached the business end of the season, they made sure none of them were involved in games that could impact the team they support. Jeff Winter has also said the same thing about when he reffed. Hackett says this has been kicked into touch by Howard Webb. All of these issues we're seeing are his fault. A football team reflects their manager, and these PGMOL meffs are a reflection of their boss. He's taken something shit and made it a million times worse because he thinks he's not accountable to anyone and can do whatever the fuck he likes. So far, he's actually right.

An innings for Dan is usually so quick no-one notices.

This is it

Saw something the other day with a former PL ref doing a podcast and he was telling a story about how Ian Wright pissed him off so he decided to not give him any free-kicks. The opposition realised what was going on and started booting fuck out of Wrighty while he kept saying play on. He thought it was really funny, I just thought "yeah, this is the same shit that's been happening to Mo for years".

The Netflix doc is called Untold: Operation Flagrant Foul.

He's said it multiple times and it's never been refuted. And it is a fact that Oliver hasn't been sent to the monitor in years since that time he stuck with his original decision and saw his arse about having his judgement questioned.

In those exceptional circumstances I think a bit of piss taking is fine. It's not like we ever sing about them any other time. Just a shame the goal was disallowed.

Just watch me.

That Forest owner is a hotheaded idiot. There was actually a relevant point buried in there but in expressing it the way they did they just made themselves look amateurish and small time. For none of the mainstream to be even mentioning the five massive 'errors' from Oliver that all benefited one team is negligence. They don't even need to mention the side gigs to UAE if they think that's implying something sinister, but ignoring it completely just makes them part of the problem. If there's no accountability then OLiver is going to keep doing what he's doing. Ultimately though all of this is the fault of Howard Webb. He's the boss, he's setting these low standards and it feels like he's just abandoning protocols that have been in place forever (like not appointing refs for games who are either compromised by geography or support).

Hate it. Didn't mind the 'shush' he first did it against City, but it should have ended there and then. Makes him look like a twat when he isn't at all. As for the handshake, it's more Spurs than Arsenal but yeah, a bit cringe.

Have to be careful what you say about Tay Tay, she's got form for writing songs about people that have wronged her. Looking forward to hearing "Pipe down you fat smelly sportwashed mess" on her next album.

No-one ever gets to utter these words very often, but.... Richard Keyes was right.

Them and sky have such a huge part to play in setting the agenda. If they kick off, its in the news all week. If they don't, it barely gets a mention. And the problem is a lot of the time the MOTD panel are way off. That Adam Smith handball was a legitimate disgrace.

After seeing these players completely shit themselves over the past 2 weeks I wouldn't be leaving Leverkusen to come here either.