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Shit floats. Our home is literally dying in front of us and we're all well my god is better than your god or that land actually belongs to us so fuck you, we're going to murder loads of your people so we can prove it. Times life this I'm glad I don't have kids. What type of world are we leaving them? Is this the world we created indeed.

What is your message to the Liverpool supporters? We have to change from doubter to believer. Now. What a ride it's been. Remember when the links to him started to become more concrete? I remember being in the lift in work a few days before the announcement and overheard a fella saying it was a done deal as he knew someone at the club. I cartwheeled into work! That heavy metal football at the beginning was great. Gut busting. The Press. Lallana almost passing out at Tottenham. And then putting his stamp on the team with Mane, Salah, Virgil and Allison - genuinely world class players at the top of their game. I still look back at the Roma game at home - I don't think I've ever been as excited to watch a Liverpool team as I was that night, and at 44 years old I've seen some great teams. It's all coming to an end, as everything does. I'm amazed it's lasted this long. I'm not sure I'll ever be as excited as I was when he joined. But who knows what tomorrow might bring. Thanks Jürgen.

From the perspective of right now, I agree. Change of manager gives me optimism but realistically, unless he's very fucking good it's likely we'll be scrapping for top 4.

Too many excuses being made for players constantly underperforming. Looking increasingly likely we overachieved as a squad, injuries have caught up to us and now we've run out of ideas and feeling sorry for ourselves. We need the season to come to a halt badly, another big big summer ahead and some big decisions need to be made.

Yeah, I mostly agree. Trent running out of gas was equally as influential, unfortunately. First half, although it all felt rushed, all our best moments came through Trent. His long passing was on point and we were causing them issues. Unfortunately, once he went off, we lacked any real threat. The runs weren’t being made or they were to slow or the passes were to slow in coming or they were to straight… or a combination of all issues. Mac Allister was out on his feet and the substitutions didn’t really help, partially inflicted themselves, partially for the above reasons. Yesterday wasn’t a great performance, it was better. For once, we started well, scored first and kept a clean sheet. The tie was lost last week, not last night. It’s annoying because Atalanta clearly aren’t anything special, neither are Marseille… our first test should have been in the final and to not get there is really disappointing. Onwards and upwards. This scoring issue can’t go on forever, we’ve too many good players.

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He's alright but he's one of those middling players that we always had loads of in the Rafa and Houllier eras. They'd look okay in certain matches but when they shit hit the fan against top class opposition they'd be found wanting. We nailed the door closed on that calibre of player in the high point of Klopp's reign where we had players like Virg and Alison, players at the top of their game bought for top dollar. The very best players look decent even on an off day, because it's built into their DNA. You need a critical mass of those types of players to win a league title, because their quality brings conistency. If you have too many of the former, you'll have games where they look good and score a worldie, followed by three matches where they're completely anonymous. Too many players like that in the squad now sadly, and it shows - and it hurts. That's squarly on FSG. The one time we've sought the best and got the best, we won things.

No way are people actually saying it's a good thing Klopp is going and us having a fresh start? A few weeks ago we were in for the quadruple!! I don't know why I still read the football forum. Better off sticking to the general forum from here on out haha.

Yes, I remember that one. Crazy. I'm afraid I'm getting increasingly cynical about the supposed tactical nous of players for dead ball situations. Do players really have a range of corner kicks to choose from? Robbo seems to put up his hands in the same gesture no matter where he puts the ball these days. Same with the intense hand-over-mouth chats over the ball before free kicks ('I think I'll try to whip it over the wall and straight down into the left-hand corner'. 'I was thinking of doing the same for the other corner'. 'Let's compromise - I'll blast it straight at the wall, then you blast the rebound over the bar').

Losing 3-0 at home on purpose so they can get knocked out and focus on the league, only to lose 1-0 at home to Crystal Palace in the league is some real big brain shit.

I think all those probably interlink so we're kind of coming from the same place. Because the team wasn't brave enough or intelligent enough or technical enough to deal with their man to man pressing and play through it, they took the easy route of trying to go over it. Klopp has a style of quick transitions and pressing high. He's not so much of a play through the lines manager so Atalanta was like kryptonite to him. They didn't want the ball so couldn't press and went man to man so couldn't get anyone free. We tried to use Alisson but there was nobody brave enough in passing or intelligent enough in movement to make that spare man work. All in all a thoroughly depressing 2 games of football.

I thought he was our best midfielder last night.

The miss when he tried to lob the keeper when one on one cost us the tie, or at least put a massive dent in our chance to win it. I’m not having a go at him, it’s just true. Score that, for him an easy chance, and we are set up for the second half. Like the rest of the team he’s playing badly.

Thought he was fine last night, did a lot better than Szoboszlai.

Seems somewhat ironic that our first clean sheet in about 15 games and I thought he was shit last night, so slow and ponderous to bring it out and pass it forward.

Masters of the Air went with characters that were too All American and unlikeable. Visually stunning and told the horrors of flying bombers in WW2, but should have been much better. Memphis Belle had already shown most of those horrors though. On the back of this I watched Band of Brothers and The Pacific again, superb shows. Episode 10 of BofB, is one of the most powerful things I’ve seen, really gets to the heart strings and makes you cry, not just for the prisoners but for the shock and dis-belief of the soldiers having to witness that.

Wonder how much of it is mental. It's the first major injury he's had since he's been here discounting the Ramos shoulder. Out for a few weeks, and as soon as we thought he was back he aggravated it and misses a couple more weeks. He's never missed so many games in a season, and for a a player that barely even picks up common knocks or small strains, it's going to be difficult for him It's going to have a major impact on him, he's going to be playing it much safer, not going into full sprints, swerving 50/50 challenges etc. On top of that, he's potentially having the same doubts we are, maybe he's got it into his head that his body is at the beginning of it's sharp decline and he doesn't know how much longer his career at this level is going to last.

Confirmed as renewed for Series 2 this evening. Slim Primm and his little cowboy boots better make an appearance.

Think the campaign to sell him is far too hasty. He's still scored 24 goals this season and a load of assists in a season punctuated with AFCON and his first long term injury. Give the lad a fucking break, he's earnt it.

I think the demands of Klopp’s game have to be factored into it too. It’s a step up in intensity from most previous experiences of new signings, if interviews are anything to go by. Maybe Naby Keita or Szloboszlai weren’t/aren’t cut out for its demands physically? It won us a a league and European Cup though, and we were cheated out of a couple more leagues and unlucky against Real in the most recent final. Anyway, New Guy will have his own style and that will change everything again.

Totally agree,excellent writing.

Looks like the brekkie spud throws his shit all over in Trainspotting. After he’s thrown his shit all over it

It’s where the first season was filmed mate the exact place

Agree with all of that but the biggest thing lacking was intelligence. The way we approached that 2nd half was incredibly fucking thick. Doing the exact same shit over and over, which also happened to be exactly what Atalanta wanted us to do. I keep saying about how this team can't sort out problems on the pitch and need Klopp's half time classroom lesson to show them the way. The second half tonight was the most glaring example of it yet. Utterly clueless. The inability of even one player in this team to be able to beat their man fucked us too, but that kind of comes under what you said about bravery and movement.

Well, I for one am looking forward to a fresh face in the dugout next season. I actually said in the football amnesty thread at the start of the season I wanted a new face, granted, I also said I wanted xabi alonso. But after digging around for info on this amorim guy, I have to admit I'm really excited about his impending appointment

It's feeling like the time to get this announced to give the club and fanbase a boost. We are all mourning Klopp (including the players) and it's created a very negative vibe throughout the club which is transferring to our performances. The fairy tale ending isn't happening and we need to look to the future. It feels as though Klopp's tenure is going to end in a very laboured and uninspiring way which is a shame. We'll likely be shit next season but at least there's hope.....

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Half of the villains i like aren't proper villains (Roy Batty, for example) I'm going with... Burke (Aliens) Ash (Alien) Tommy DeVito (Goodfellas) Hans Landa (Inglourious Basterds) Alex DeLarge (A Clockwork Orange) Don Logan (Sexy Beast) Ciro diMarco (Gomorrah) Commodus (Gladiator) Phoenix Buchanan (Paddington 2) And the absolute queen, herself, Servalan

Its getting beyond a joke now. Its raining every fucking day

Now all of a sudden this Angela Raynor story is making sense , CCHQ have known about this for 3 months but have kept quiet ( I know I was shocked) So they have gone full wacko on Raynor to deflect attention away from there own fuck ups . The classic Tory trick of don't look here look over there routine .

How, precisely, do you propose that we 'stop more innocents losing their lives?' Maybe you missed this, but the world tried the "give Putin the portion of Ukraine he's already conquered in order to make peace" thing in Minsk in 2014. The deal was this - Putin, you (and your proxies) get to keep Crimea and a portion of the Donbass. In exchange, both parties agree to stop shelling each other. Sounds like they "faced facts to stop more innocents from losing their lives," right? It lasted 7 months. Just enough time for Putin to reconstitute his army and launch another offensive in January 2015. Putin captured some more territory and Ukraine, desperate to "stop more innocents losing their lives," agreed to peace AGAIN. This was known as "Minsk 2," and was ratified by both parties in February 2015. Putin's proxies then declared that "the peace agreement doesn't apply to this particular piece of the frontline" and went on an assault again. Ukraine responded, not with military action but by passing a law that gave the Donbass special political status with more independence, as Putin claimed he had wanted. So Russia responded by moving in more heavy artillery and killing 430 Ukrainian soldiers. And then in March 2016 the Russian Foreign Minister announced that Russia was "not a party to the Minsk 2 agreement" and then a few years later, after a massive Russian campaign to build loyalty in Ukraine and a huge military buildup, they carried out the full-scale invasion of Feb 2022. I am utterly mystified by anyone whose response to the above facts (which no one, including the Russians, dispute) is "you know what we should do? Give Putin what he wants to 'stop innocents losing their lives.'" Giving Putin what he wants (a negotiated settlement that allows him to keep control of the Ukrainian territory he has invaded) is precisely what will lead to more innocents losing their lives, you absolute cretin.

Italian beef from Mr Beef It doesn’t look that appetising but good it was good. Whole thing dipped in beef dripping 8/10

Absolutely brilliant. Does for retro-futuristic atomic 50s and 60s what Tim Burton’s Batman did for retro-futuristic 20s and 30s. Can’t wait for season 2.

I haven’t posted this to take the piss. I think it’s pretty good. If you always use a certain turnstyle it’s a nice momento.

She won that Disney prize. 4 people all expenses trip here. Landed yesterday. Seems a decent place! There’s a conference at the hotel though and American business types are rude. Speaking to staff like shit no please or thanks. Posh hotel and all.

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Massive downgrade on Hendo and even Keita, can't even do the simple things

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