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I think Guardiola died a little when he agreed to sign Haaland. No one is more entranced by his own myth than that man, with all the 'pure' football lore, the claims of wanting a whole team of creative midfielders, in goal, across the back four, up front as well as in the middle, all fluid, all dynamic, all committed to the unsullied art of total football. Then they bring in this homunculus, this huge big browed, pouty lipped, sporting synecdoche, with a snowflake for a heat map, who exists only to poke that round thing in that net thing. All the purity went out the window in favour of the plain greed for winning games. Little Pep defiled his own dream, he vandalised his own saintly self-image. Now all he can do is hold up his fingers and show how many trophies he's won - he can't boast about his 'vision,' his 'values,' his defiant defence of all that is noble about the wondrous game of football. He's the Cruyff-like Faustus who submitted to the Mourinho-like Mephistopheles. He can 'turn things around' all right, but he can't ever restore that nice, clean, symbol of moral and artistic superiority. That's gone, and he knows it, and, as a consequence, probably feels horrible empty deep inside.

I'm prepared for the shock of signing three or four first teamers in January...but the evidence of the past tends to favour the opposite. I still can't forgive the owners for the January transfer window after being champions again for the first time in 30 years. We destroyed Palace away on Boxing Day and were around seven points clear. Our last recognisable CH gets injured (Matip I think?) and then surrender the lead and scrape 4th was it?(memory is not that great at times.) We didnt retain the title and wasted going level with United on titles. Obviously that wouldn't be worth anything financially but it would have been fantastic for fans who had to sit through all that United dominance for around two decades. That was when I knew our club had finally become nothing more than a business and whose memories,good and bad,all had a price on them.

It's changed me. It's fucked my lungs up and it took my mother from me, but it showed me just how delicate and how precious life is. Every day I wake up is a new day filled with new possibilities and to that end I feel truly blessed.

Should have started a thread on minimum rage!

Tldr

It's a huge debate. Clearly in theory, a minimum wage is a good idea but it's the same as anything, putting these things into practice is never quite that simple for a multitude of reasons. I will say that the scandalous distribution of wealth & the ever increasing gap between rich & poor is by far & away the biggest problem in the this country and has been for a long time.

Absolutely fucking sick some of the shit players have to deal with just because they play football

The minimum wage isn't a problem in itself. It's ineffectiveness is driven by years of policy that has prioritised wealth over income. Driven mainly by austerity and quantitative easing.

Jizz. Edit. Being top of a new page makes this post look far worse.

He can't speak out against it. This is what he wanted! It's such a long way back for them now too. They are miles behind us and Arsenal even Chelsea have overtaken them on the pitch. Clubs like Brighton have better players and a better structure. Brexit Jim is old and decrepid, just like the team and Stadium. I genuinely think that things are going to keep getting worse too as they need so many new players yet they are in danger of breaking the PSR rules.

The nine who were against - Argentina, Israel, Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Tonga, United States. So, the genocidal maniacs, their financial backers, two far right South American governments, and five islands the US has bought off. Top stuff.

Agreed, scrap it. Replace it with a legally binding policy that a chairman can earn no more than twenty times that of the lowest paid worker and bring all the wages up across the board.

The butcher is an apt nickname as he plays like a shorter Fred Elliott. " That balls just gone over my head, I say that balls just gone over my head"

I don't think it's Covid that's fucking people up. For me, the blame can be mostly attributed to social media and the increasingly aggressive - and unapologetic - rhetoric coming from certain politicians. The 'live, laugh, love' types who feel the the world revolves around them have simply used this as an excuse for their selfish behaviour. Add into that mix their kids, who are playing second fiddle for attention to a fucking mobile phone, and it's no wonder we're seeing problems.

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100%. This just seems obvious and it's appalling that it's never spoken about. Don't want to follow the rules? Fuck off and play somewhere else then. Cunts.

TNT Sports couldn’t pick us for this one as they were supposed to be covering the derby last week, meaning that we are in that rare Saturday 3:00pm slot and not on TV. The thing is, Saturday at 3:00pm is still the ideal slot for a match. It’s not ridiculously early and doesn’t finish ridiculously late so you still have Saturday night to plan for, and hopefully all of Sunday to enjoy. A bit like with the British government going back forever it seems, the PL’s chase for the foreign gravy train means they have to bow to the whims of foreign TV markets. If Asia wants a PL match on during their peak Saturday night slot, it means a lunchtime game over here. Money takes precedence over quality and any real enjoyment. Plus ça change. After facing one of City’s feeder teams in the Champions League, we now take on Fulham at Anfield. They are one of those sides that can be a real handful on the day, especially if you are not on it yourselves. Not consistent enough to challenge for a top 4 place, but with a fair wind could make one of the other European places. Marco Silva has been there for 3 years now (longer than he spent at either Hull or Everton) so has had time to properly bed in his ideas. He wants his players to let the opposition know they’ve been in a game, win, lose or draw. We saw that last season where we were not allowed to get too comfortable in any of the 4 games we played. Not least in the corresponding league fixture last season, which was a real ding-dong battle needing some late heroics from both Endo and Trent. In the summer, they spent a lot of money to sign defender Andersen from Palace, midfielder Berge from Burnley, and attacking midfielder Smith-Rowe from Arsenal. He was always on the fringes of Arteta’s squad, had seen what regular game time had done for Palmer at Chelsea, and decided he needed to fly the nest. Harry Wilson had to make the same decision with us a few years ago, and he also opted for Fulham. They got a significant chunk of their outlay back on their new signings with the sale of Palhinha to sit on Bayern’s bench. They are a side that are unlikely to play on the front foot against the bigger sides, but rather try to counter quickly and crisply. They should have got something at the Etihad, and in their last 2 fixtures have beaten Brighton and drawn with Arsenal. We’ve seen what they can do if we aren’t at the races so we must ensure that everybody is far more tuned in defensively, more precise in our control and use of the ball, and much more ruthless in the attacking third. None of the sloppiness we saw at Southampton, Newcastle and Girona. Ali returned to action at Girona and should be OK to start again, and maybe Diogo (who also returned to training recently) might be an option off the bench. Maybe the Italian stallion will have overcome his sickness and be ready to be involved once more (you never know!). Macca is suspended for this one (he would have been missing for the derby had it gone ahead), and Conor, Ibou and Kostas are still unavailable. I’d expect Slot will go strong for this one with who he has available, and plan on more of a reshuffle for the League Cup tie next week. How have our previous managers got on in their first home fixture against Fulham? It’s a very good record, though Fulham didn’t play in the top flight until 2001, and have spent a few years in the second tier since then. Souness...N/A Evans...N/A Houllier...12/12/2001...Liverpool 0-0 Fulham Benitez...05/02/2005...Liverpool 3-1 Fulham (Morientes, Hyypia, Baros) Hodgson...N/A Dalglish...26/01/2011...Liverpool 1-0 Fulham (Paintsil og) Rodgers...22/12/2012...Liverpool 4-0 Fulham (Skrtel, Gerrard, Downing, Suarez) Klopp...11/11/2018...Liverpool 2-0 Fulham (Salah, Shaqiri) I don't ask for much. Maximum motivation, control, application, attitude and concentration from minute one. 3 points please. Get it done!

I'd say minimum wage probably worked quite effectively through the 90s and upto sometime around 2010. Since then we have had austerity and the price of everything shooting up in the last few years.

You were wrong, my friend. 23 goals in four and a half years. Horrifically bad footballer.

Dont expect Bob to read it, he struggle a bit with text longer than a twitter message, it’s an age thing.

It's Oh So Quiet, So It Is.

You started with phone contracts, then it was £55 a month & now it's the latest iPhone. You're making it quite difficult to have a rational discussion so I'll leave you to it.

I thought this was sarcasm. It sounds more like it than anything like common sense.

That's inflation for you.

What can a man do? Try this.

He’s a ruthless grifter. Jumping on the alternative health bandwagon to make money out of people’s desperation. He did a podcast recently that said you could cure terminal cancer by changing your diet then sold advertising slots. He’s soulless, genuinely without any human feeling or empathy.

The Day of The Jackal Series finale - Redmayne does the simpering Prince Edward thing, speaks far too quietly, looks like he's had a stroke, and likes the taste of the pecker just a bit too much. But worse still is massive fucking 4 seater couch arse sphincter face strong woman woke queen useless cunt Bianca. This should have been good, all the ingredients were there, but those 2 cunts have turned it into utter shit. Fuck off/10

I thought the idea of a minimum wage was terrible, businesses going bust, staff laid off etc. Another fucking thing I got wrong, I now think it's an excellent thing. The 20:1 wage ratio between highest and lowest earner in a business doesn't work for me. Governments should not be interfering in how much business owners can be paid, taxed yes, paid no. If someone pays themselves £1 million a year then the lowest paid employee would have to be on 50k. Daft.

the concept is sound..people should have a basic level of income the problem is rich cunts are not rich enough so the price of everything has gone through the roof.

He's entirely symbolic of what now passes for an entrepreneur. He doesn't make anything, doesn't build anything, it's all image, sponsorship, podcasts, 'content' and guru related shit. Pound to a penny he's into 'crypto' too, the last refuge of the tech bum. This is why the economy is in the toilet. I've always said the modern British economy consists of people with no money with their hands in each other's pockets feeling around for money. Bunch of 'buy me a coffee' cunts.

Gangland by Chuck Hogan - 7.5/10 Good but not great. I've had some trouble focusing on books lately, so maybe that played a part in me not completely engaging with the story. Definitely worth a go though if you're into mafia stories.

Exactly, I loved Casino Royale but it didn't have a enormous goon with metal teeth in it, did it?

I'm a massive fan of Walken's character laughing manically at literally the moment of his own death. Absolutely tremendous.

I’m putting my doubts aside and going all in on this lad again. He’ll score against Southampton and will be a huge asset to us in the coming months. He’ll be like a more utilised Litmanen. BELIEVE is an anagram of CHIESA. No scraps in this kid’s scrapbook from now on.

Skeleton Crew is better than any live action that Disney/Lucasfilm have put out (bar Andor and Season 1 & 2 of The Mandalorian) since the takeover. It’s not for us grown ups, but it’s fun and a good intro for kids getting into Star Wars I reckon. Seems to be setting up “Somehow Palpatine has returned”

I actually don't think the Glazers were the problem at all. They gave every manager (a lot of them) more money than almost any other and yet it still wasn't enough. We have owners that barely spend a penny in comparison and have won more of the prime trophies than they have. Their fans are like Everton's, but with an actual history of success.

Hopefully at 7pm on the 22nd…

Just randomly remembered that transfer window when everyone was kicking off about us not signing players, and then on deadline day we announced a new deal for Nat Phillips!

"They went out and poached Ashworth, Jason Wilcox, etc, and still have this jobber and his scruffy patron seemingly running the football operation. It looks very much like typical United behavior - bring in a few big names that the higher ups probaly read about in the papers, and cook up some LinkedIn shite about having the "best in class" in a desperate attempt to be appear to be the big dogs again. They're going nowhere, and it's absolutely glorious." I posted the above on the Ten Hag thread (how great is it that there are multiple topics on their continued failures). I wish I could claim some keen foresight but it's just common sense they would hamstring themselves with their own hubris. That's the real United Way. I'm starting to think the Glazers are some of the smartest business people in the world. They bilked £1.25 billion off a substantially richer man for him to be their lightening rod.

Anyone else notice that Vance has disappeared and Musk seems to be VP in all but title.

How long have you been watching us? If you aren't considering self medicating on angina pills by half time you aren't watching us.

I watched 64 Zoo Lane in Klingon and it made more sense than that.

One thing’s for sure - our boy is massive in Minnesota. Right up there Stateside with your Messis and your Ronaldos and your, eh, Aaron Cresswells.