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Told everyone that no signings would be made until the end of the Euros, the US tour and that Slot wants to fully assess his squad. No big statement of ambition apart from a new transfer committee/structure designed to save the owners money. Another good attacker signed but only because he was cheap and we knew his club didn't want him. Not exactly a priority given the other holes in the squad desperately needing addressing. GK signed who we don’t really need and won't play for us until next season or even the season after. Turned down a 4m bid for Nat phillips because they were greedy and thought they would get 10m for him but he goes on loan again and will leave the club for nothing. Meanwhile paying his wages for another year. No defensive midfielder signed. Went after a player who had turned down 4 other clubs Because he never wanted to leave his boyhood club. Decided to do this in the 2nd week of August and then tell everyone there's no one better than a 31 year old Endo No CB signed despite the press lackeys saying in June it was a priority. No Trent contract No Salah contract No VVD contract. All will walk away for nothing next year. Backed your new manager taking over from a club leged with £11m Overall profit made for FSG around £40m with a few new sponsorship deals and increased CL revenue thrown in. Reduced the wage bill by at least £400k a week with high earners and various young players being moved on. Also Klopps wages saved with him being one of the highest paid managers in world football. Absolute shite.

The Reds finally signed someone to help the team this season as exciting Italian forward Federico Chiesa joined from Juventus for a bargain fee of just £10m plus another couple of mil in potential add ons. Chris Smith and TLW Editor Dave Usher give their immediate reaction to the news, while also discussing the signing of a new goalkeeper who won't be joining for at least a year. The lads also react to the Champions League draw that has thrown up some very interesting fixtures and finally they look ahead to Sunday's trip to Old Trafford. View full article

Just fuck off and stop posting you boring, wank in to a tissue Boston Night Ghoul apologist, shitty arsed fucking nonce.

The only person in the club's hierarchy deserving of trust left three months ago.

There should be a film made out of Nat Phillips life. Released at 19 from Bolton. Signed by us to make up numbers in u21's. 8 years and 6 loans later he is bringing home 65k a week and goosing Liam Gallaghers daughter. There is even a Cruyff turn at the San Siro for the trailer. Phenomenal stuff.

Never seen anyone so happy seeing his shirt for the first time. Love him already.

Left side too triangular, right side raw.

Is it too early to call the owners unambitious tightwad cunts yet or should we give them until the end of the window?

That lot. At their place. With their capcaity for spawn. With local boy Anthony Taylor the man in the middle. Note the (slightly) different kick-off time. Two Dutch baldies in the dugout. Them having lashed another fortune on signings and salaries, with us being so frugal that the usual "mingebags" shouts and talk of money going on yachts have been more and more frequent this summer. And we've yet to see FSG fanboys like FrenchEyeGlass and beefstroganoff give their two bob's worth on this forum. As I write, we've completed a deal for Mamardashvili, who will be staying at Valencia for the rest of this season. Chatter is gathering pace that Chiesa is the next one in. Other than that, the only murmurs surround Joe possibly leaving for Palace or Branthwaite crossing town. Maybe the Gordon thing might start up again. In more hushed tones, there is talk that we are looking at Simakan or Lukeba at RB Leipzig as centre back. Possibly even Inacio at Sporting. Goodness knows we've thrown a lot of money their way in recent years. The Mancs still look like what they've been since Ferguson stepped down. A collection of individuals not playing anything cohesive that enables consistency, much like what they were between the Busby and Ferguson eras. Looking at who they've let go, the list includes Varane, Martial (who seemed to have been circling the drain there for the best part of 5 years), Wan-Bissaka, Greenwood and Van de Beek. The latter had one bright season at Ajax under Ten Hag, who never bothered to use him when he took over as manager at Snake Mountain. Those Ajax players were very highly rated and went for big money but none of them have pulled up any trees since then. I count De Jong at Barcelona in that. De Ligt and Mazraoui have been brought in as Ten Hag tries to put the band back together, and they've added Yoro (currently injured) and Zirkzee to the mix. McTominay is about to join Napoli and they've agreed a fee with PSG for Ugarte. Incidentally, did you know that Tom Huddlestone was there for the past 2 years? He was doing the Spearing role as over-age player/coach with the U21s. Curtis is unlikely to be fit for the weekend after yet another injury, and Jarell had an issue that caused him to miss training ahead of the Brentford game, so is also a doubt. Other than that, everybody else should be available. We owe this lot a proper hiding. Last season, a combination of sloppiness at the back and extreme wastefulness in attack saw us exit the FA Cup and have our title challenge derailed in this fixture in successive weeks. If we had show more accuracy and ruthlessness, we would have tonked them. Much better game management would also have been more than useful. These are things that I really hope Slot has been addressing with his staff, not just for this fixture but as their mantra for what they want out of the players. How have our previous managers got on in their first away game in this fixture? Our overall record there is fairly shoddy so the following comes as no surprise. Souness...18/10/1992...Man Utd 2-2 Liverpool (Hutchison, Rush) Evans...30/03/1994...Man Utd 1-0 Liverpool Houllier...04/03/2000...Man Utd 1-1 Liverpool (Berger) Benitez...20/09/2004...Man Utd 2-1 Liverpool (O'Shea og) Hodgson...19/09/2010...Man Utd 3-2 Liverpool (Gerrard 2, 1 pen) Dalglish...11/02/2012...Man Utd 2-1 Liverpool (Suarez) Rodgers...13/01/2013...Man Utd 2-1 Liverpool (Sturridge) Klopp...15/01/2017...ManUtd 1-1 Liverpool (Milner pen) I don't ask for much. Maximum motivation, control, application, attitude and concentration from minute one. 3 points please. Get it done!

1. I don’t think anyone has been unrealistic in expecting them to obtain the DM that we’ve been expecting for thee windows, and which the coach wanted. 2. Trust a hedge fund? No. I said at the outset that where our interests and their interests aligned, fine, but where they don’t, hold them to account. And never, ever, trust them. Who would trust any football club owner. They’re all cunts to one degree or another.

I think there is more than a touch of people being a bit unrealistic in their expectations for this window. There has been a hell of lot of change at the club, and in a summer when there was two international tournaments on, which complicates things further when so much change is happening. We know that Edwards (and you'd imagine Hughes is to) is very intelligent and strategic in how works. Sometimes you have have to take a longer term view and that may not look good in the short term. Since Edwards left there had been a lack of strategic planning around the squad with too many players growing old together and not enough succession planning - and of course contracts running down......This is something they have to get on top of - but for my money to expect them to fix everything within a couple of months or so of arriving back at the club is not realistic - especially when you consider that the overall market is volatile at present.... For me they need time to make/re-make (is that a word) their mark. I just don't feel like the timeframe for this window for things to click has been there. The January window is not far away and I feel they may be in a better position to make some moves then even allowing for how tricky January can be. Patience and trust is IMHO the order od the day....The appointment of Slot looks like a really good one on early impressions - and he as he has said needs time to have a proper look at what he has and work out what he feels he needs - so for me we should have a little faithand patience and we'll see how things pan out in January and next summer. I feel we have a squad that should be in top 4 and maybe has a title tilt in it with a bit of luck (something we have had little of recently)...I would rather have a year or two of finishing in the top 4 whilst rebuilding with firm foundations and a smart strategy to really ramp up to challenge for titles again than an uncontrolled flailing mess like a dog chasing his own tail that we have had in the past, and we are seeing at the mancs and Chelsea currently. The DM situation is the one area where it feels like we have fucked up somehow - the last two summers now we have failed to get the players we wanted - I do wonder what is going on there - but overall I say trust the club, be patient and I think we might well be better off mid to long term than if we were doing stuff in a panic or compromising the longer term strategy for short term gain. The amount of youngsters we have sold/ sent on loan is interesting too....Good game time and experience and maybe one or two who will be ready and able to step up next season and of course those we don't see a path for we've bin bagged - all part of a bigger picture, and a strategy we'll see unfold over next year or so. I get the 'jam tomorrow' shouts, I do and I am concerned we could end up with a lot to do in a very short time - but I feel the club has earned the right for us to trust its judgement - afer all it has done pretty well over the last 5 years or so.

No he hasn’t you cunt

Load of shite. Hope Richard Hughes absentmindedly uses a brillo pad on his best non-stick pan.

My grandad joined the army at 16 to be sent off to occupied Italy and Austria after being fired from his job at Dunlop's in Speke for - and I quote - 'persistent welly wanging'. God I loved that man.

Some are taking it well.

A couple more recent birthday cards.

I hear he was big in Japan.

We go in to this season with VVD, who's now 33 and we are seemingly getting rid of next summer, Konate who struggles to stay fit and play twice a week, Quansah who's got 18 Premier league games under his belt and Gomez who hasn't played centre back regularly in years. We are weaker in this area than last year and we have Champions League football rather than Europa this season. Last season VVD only played 333 minutes of European football, this season we'll probably need him to play double that amount before Christmas. We are leaving ourselves very very thin in this area.

Philips being loaned out, so now we are down to 4 CBs. With a couple CBs out with injury (which seems to have been the norm the last few seasons) we'll have 2 CBs to play games every 3-4 days. Lets see how long until we're properly fcked on this front. Why are we so stupid??

Of course it's too early. You have to wait at least until the next moving of the goalposts to "let's see what happens with Mo, Virgil and Trent's new contracts".

I think what is most frustrating, our needs are pretty clear and obvious. And just direct replacements for thiago and matip and we'd be sitting pretty now. It's not like the gaps aren't easy to see.

It's all over twitter that the club have inside info that City will be docked points going into next season and Chelsea will be hit with a points deduction and a transfer ban next summer.

Are we even slightly shocked that we've been left short by the owners in a Summer transfer window? Well, yes slightly. I had this obviously unrealistic notion that when you got a new manager in, often, if not in most cases, he gets backed. Just look back to the dialogue when he was appointed, I can't remember whether it was @Barrington Wombleor @Harry Squatter who said, with some prescience that we've appointed a manager who can do it on a shoestring.so why the fuck would 'careful' owners appoint someone who is demanding? Chances are it was @Barrington Wombleas @Harry Squatterwould have been taking the piss on the Everton thread hoping they were sinking into the sea, along with their half built Albatross Stadium,which is something that we can all get behind. Who actually are the mugs here? Yep, it's us. The cave paintings have been there since 2010, the Hieroglyphs on the wall said "under spend, expect Miracles, when not achieved, cost cut". Every window we start with hope, but experience has told us, if the business hasn't been done within the first 2 weeks, then expect fuck all. This time round they've had the absolute Michelin 4 star menu of excuses. New manager and backroom staff. They cost money. He needs to assess his squad. He then needs to assess his squad further on the American tour. He needs to see who is surplus to requirements. He then needs to sell the replacements. He then needs to sell the replacements to the replacements if he wants to sign anyone. He's been appointed as head coach on a major step up, so he's in no position to make any demands. He's grateful. Shut up and get on with it. There is no known human being who can perform the role that the new hired help has deemed necessary. Sign someone late on as part of the 'opportunistic model' that the owners have said is their only legit modus operandi. The window shuts and we are not only short of a CB, but we've sold the cushion squad filler. So no action on a key area. We've saved wages on the world's most stylish medical ward test patient and replaced him with someone we already had in the hope that the new 'hired help' can convert him into a player who can stand 60 games in a new position, with Endo as his back up...who the new hired help doesn't rate. And the thing is, we are disappointed as we should be.....but, if you trace back the narrative of what the bloodless, Victorian Step Father from Boston actually said.....it's actually us as fans that are the fuckwits. We've not actually been fooled, because the cheap tinpot cunts don't ever promise anything, it;s just that we have this insane notion that being one of the biggest clubs in the world, with the biggest income, that our owners might have a plan or some ambition for us to get excited about.

If your data thinks there is only 1 midfielder that could improve us you have a issue with how you are using data

Cardie, even by your standards this is lots of Thesaurus to say nothing.

I’ve not mentioned the owners once this summer in this thread. I’ve been clear I think they are decent owners, when you see some of the behaviour of other clubs around the country, I find it hard see where we’d be better off. I’ve stated multiple times I’d have liked a #6 this summer, however, I also have faith in the coaching and playing staff to improve. I’m not sure what the problem is with that? If you don’t like the way I put my points across, then I’m very sorry about that. Personally, I think I back up people I agree with (or try to enhance their point). If I come across as talking down to some, most of the time it will be unintentional. However, reading the same posters, make the same conspiracy theorist posts for years and years is equally as eye bleeding to me and my posts is to you. I’m not here to make enemies, I don’t mind a fierce debate. I want to see us have a successful season as much as the next supporter. I have more faith in what we currently have.

We’re starting to watch this from the start after a long break. It’s worth a second go.

Lowest spend in the Premier League. Outspent by teams with no CL football, newly promoted clubs and clubs on the verge of administration. Will probably get record revenues next year too. Yet fans will still tell you everything is great because the club is being run sustainably.

We might play 5500 minutes of football this season, with an incredible but ageing centre half, a beast of a centre half that struggles to play two games in a week, a centre half that is little more than a kid and a fullback/centre half that has had a chequered (if unlucky) injury record. It would be highly irresponsible to go into the season like this. Endo is not a Premier League centre back.

No one is pretending they don’t exist. But some are trying to pretend their proneness to injury doesn’t exist.

Probably been posted but interesting comparison to the characters in the show.

Yeah, I bought some similar New Balance about a fortnight ago. They are fucking comfy.

GF gold.

Hope he stabs himself with his sword, fucking arsehole.

As for the game, I’ve got no idea what to expect. No doubt they’ll be frothing from the mouth to stop us. Can’t blame them, we’ve been the same in their position of underdogs and have been just as rabid. Quite glad Mount seems to be out. His willingness to press with Fernandes in that double false #9 role has been a positive for them. Hopefully we have learned our lesson from last season, we must be clinical and kill the game. It’s unlikely they’ll pack in and accept a pumping, we need to force the issue. I’m more hopefully this season given Jota is available and Salah is fully fit. Huge test for Gravenberch. Wouldn’t surprise me if the mancs target him as a pressing victim and really try to unsettle him. No idea how this plays out at all.

Beckham?

Neg away @Babb'sBurstNad and you @Skidfingers McGonical

I’m getting my car cleaned after an adblue spillage in the boot, so found myself in the Morrisons cafe with my work laptop, so thought I’d get a Yorky special - full English. Not started it yet - thought I’d get it on here first. Looks alright to be fair. Will be shite though I’m sure

So a week or two into the season, having not even played a competitive game, Curtis can’t even train? I really like him as a player, but it’s a problem now that he’s taking up a squad place. He’s drifting into Thiago territory. While it’s brilliant he’s fit right now, the same applies to Jota if he breaks down again this season.

Wrap it up, the training ground will be closed up by 2

The little cunt is on tv this morning moaning about being abused on social media. If you weren't such a shacket-clad smug little fart you perhaps wouldn't get abuse. Cunt.

The same song mentions Zeal Monachorum.

I was quietly optimistic until I read this. I now look forward to him being a mixture of awful & injured over the next couplecof years.

Absolute guarantee that Frode won't say he was wrong about it and he'll blame everyone else but Balotelli.

Israel has agreed to temporarily stop dropping bombs on innocent children in Gaza to let them be vaccinated against polio. Once that is done, Israel will resume dropping bombs on innocent vaccinated children in Gaza.

Personal plate as well, worratwat!