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  1. The best songwriter / musician of our generation penned a classic called “the more things change the more they stay the same”. Pretty apt whenever Klopp rotates his line up really. Nine changes to the side that started the cup final but this still looked just like Liverpool. Not identical of course, we don’t have clones we can bring in when the main players are out. You can’t replicate what Salah, Mané and Diaz do. Or Thiago or Van Dijk. Or Trent. Especially Trent, who is thoroughly unique in world football. So it’s not identical, but individual traits aside the team just played the same way and dominated the game in exactly the same way you’d expect from the first choice line up. It’s one of the more incredible aspects of Klopp’s tenure here really, and there are many of them. Imagine just being able to pick whoever you like and still be able to get the result you need. We went on a mad winning run at the back end of last season with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams at centre back. It’s the Klopp effect. Him and his staff. They’ve instilled this belief in the entire squad and they’re so well coached that everyone knows how to play the role required of them. I saw the line up and wasn’t worried. It helped that it was more or less what I expected it to be so I wasn’t shocked or concerned by it, but I didn’t look at that team and think we’d be in trouble. I looked at it and was excited at what we might see from a midfield with both Curtis and Harvey in it. I looked at the defence and thought “Southampton aren’t scoring past those lads” and I looked at the forwards and thought there was opportunity for them to get back in the goals. Diogo and Bobby really need a goal, whereas Taki just scores every time he plays. And if something did go wrong then look at the bench. Granted, we only had three options rather than five, but when you’ve got that kind of talent to call upon you always feel confident. I also looked at the Southampton line up and there was nothing to fear from that whatsoever. Some of their regulars were left out and other than Ward-Prowse and his set-pieces there was nothing there to worry about. And I’d say all of what I just said above came to pass. The defence were brilliant (although Southampton had one chance early one when Ali made a smart save), the midfield functioned well and the frontline posed a threat and Taki delivered his customary goal. Southampton caused us no problems. The only thing I got wrong was them not scoring, but their goal only happened because of a dereliction of duty from Martin Atkinson and especially Stuart Atwell on VAR. I may as well start with that. It looked like a foul on Jota on first viewing but you can’t always tell. I was prepared to accept the possibility that the defender got man and ball and that Atkinson let it go because he was trying to let them play. He refereed like that all night in fairness, he wasn’t overly fussy and allowed a lot of contact. That’s good, I applaud that as the game is better for it. He got that decision badly wrong though as the defender got none of the ball and a lot of Jota. I’m not pointing the finger at Atkinson there though. Yeah, he’s in a great position and should get that right, but mistakes happen and I could accept that from the angle he was viewing it from it may have looked like the defender has got the ball. I don’t know if that’s the case but I’m open to the possibility as he got most things right on the night other than that. But seriously, it’s mind boggling that VAR didn’t help him out there. I assumed that the procedure must have changed and they weren’t allowed to go back that far, but that’s not the case. VAR can go back to the start of the attack and indeed Atwell did look at it. And then decided it wasn’t a clear and obvious error. Fuck me. It doesn’t get more clear and obvious because at no point does the defender get any touch on the ball. Jota controls the ball and the defender boots him. There is no great area there, you have to tell Atkinson he’s missed a foul and to go and check. They scored a fucking goal from that foul. How can that be allowed to stand? This is the second to last game of the season and we had to win to keep the title alive, and the officials allow that to happen?? I didn’t want VAR, I still don’t want VAR but the fact is we’re stuck with it. So fucking use it then. This is the exact scenario why it exists. Imagine if we’d dropped points in this game because of that. Incompetence or something else, I don’t know what Atwell’s reasons were but you seriously have to wonder how someone who does this for a living can not award a free-kick for that after seeing all the necessary replay angles. He should be made to explain himself. The goal itself was jammy as fuck too, as Redmond’s shot was going straight at Alisson before it nicked off Milner and looped up into the top corner. It was the only way they were ever going to score. Thankfully it’s just a footnote on yet another Liverpool victory. The lads responded as they always do. We took control of the game again and thought we’d equalised straight away when Bobby headed in a Kostas free-kick. The offside flag curtailed his celebrations, sadly. We were playing well though and the goal wasn’t too long in arriving. Nice football, good ball by Jota and a clever run and superb finish by Taki. Such a lovely goal that. He’s scored 10 goals this season now and he’s made a massive impact on this quadruple bid. I don’t know how much longer he’ll be here, but I hope he doesn’t leave this summer as he’s such a valuable asset to have. Much has been made of Martin Tyler’s commentary on that goal. I commented on it on twitter too, because it really was something wasn’t it? Some of you will say he’s like this on every game he does and his lack of enthusiasm isn’t just reserved for when we score. That’s as may be, but there’s a large body of evidence now that the cunt sounds genuinely fucking gutted any time we score. I’d love to know why, as it wasn’t always like that. Who could forget the iconic “Collymore closing iiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnn” line. There’s just no way you can tell me he isn’t gutted when we score though. He didn’t exactly go nuts when Redmond scored, but compare that with how he was when Taki scored. It couldn’t be more obvious. And here’s the thing, I know people will say he’s going to be more excited when the underdog scores as the neutrals all love an upset, but this is different. Southampton weren’t the story here. Them scoring wasn’t any kind of a big deal to be celebrated, unless you specifically wanted us to get beat and ergo for the title race to be over. That’s not what Sky want. Sky want this going to the final day and Minamino’s goal was therefore the big story here. Any other commentator working on this game will have given Taki’s goal the excited commentary it warranted. It’s just Tyler. He needs fucking off, either for his bias or just his plain old lack of enthusiasm. A commentator is supposed to add to the moment or to let the moment speak for itself. This cunt just tries to suck all of the joy and excitement out of it. Even on Matip’s winning goal his first thought was to desperately wonder if the ball had gone out from the corner. What a sour, miserable, bitter old fucking turd. Hopefully he’s nowhere near Anfield on Sunday. I expect he’ll be at the Etihad desperately hoping for another “Aguerrrooooooooooo” moment. Twat. Anyway, I’ve jumped ahead a bit there by skipping to Joel’s header. I’ll come back to that in a bit. The equaliser was no more than we deserved and the rest of the half was basically total domination from us. I think at half time we’d had 11 shots to their one or something. It may have been even more. They weren’t exactly clear chances but we were knocking on the door and at half time I wasn’t worried at all. Well I was a little worried for poor Joe who went over on an ankle and had to go off to be replaced by Hendo, but I wasn’t worrying about the outcome of the game. I just expected us to go out and find the goal we needed to get the points. We almost did it immediately when Jota collected a Tsimikas cross and fired a snapshot inches wide. It summed up his last month really. It’s just not going in for him, although I thought his form was decent enough in this one and he was pretty unlucky. He had a great effort blocked in the first half when he brought a ball down on his chest and unleashed an acrobatic volley that would have burst the net. He played the pass for the goal and generally looked quite lively, which was good to see with the two massive games we have coming up. We might need him off the bench, although frankly there’s no way I’d be overlooking Divock if the situation required an extra forward. We were enjoying almost total domination of the ball and Southampton couldn’t get out. They didn’t actually look like they even wanted to. Usually we come up against rabid opponents and crowds desperate to be the ones to stop us winning the league, but Southampton really didn’t seem that arsed. The fans weren’t particularly boisterous and the players looked like they were just waiting for the season to end. The coast coast is home to Peter Shilton and Matt Le Tissier so naturally their crowd sang the national anthem and then booed when the away end belted out YNWA at the end. If the season wasn’t about to end we’d be subjected to this bollocks at 90% of the stadiums we go to. Next season it might be like that, but chances are the banter merchants will all have forgotten and will have some other shit songs to amuse themselves. Really though, it was fairly tame. Maybe they were disheartened by how our second string completely dominated the game. Most of the noise was coming from the away end though as our boys pressed for the goal that would get them ahead. We continued knocking on the door and Jones was becoming more and more influential as the game wore on. He had a quiet start but grew into the game and I thought he was really fucking good in the second half. Great on the ball, positive, mature in his decision making and the only criticism was his shooting was shite. It used to be a strength but it’s been rubbish for a while now. Harvey was really good too. He nearly scored when he shot into the side netting and this was a nice little reminder of what he can do. We’ve barely seen him for weeks but he’s such a massive talent. I thought he was unlucky to be brought off but we needed to win the game and Klopp wanted to get a fourth forward on. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. Origi time. We scored straight away. You might say he had nothing to do with it but I could argue that Southampton shit their pants when he came on and our lads all got a lift. There’s a feeling of inevitability when he comes on that a goal is coming. The goal was a fluke as Matip and Diallo both headed the ball at the same time and it looped into the top corner leaving the keeper helpless. Maybe that’s what Joel needs to do all the time now to keep his headers on target? Konate went close from an identical position soon after, but for the most part we weren’t too bothered about trying to force another goal and the performance after we went 2-1 was very much safety first. Lots of possession but very sensible. We saw the game out with no drama and ensured that if City are going to win the league they’ll need to do it on the pitch because we aren’t making anything easy for them. That’s one of the most satisfying things about this. City’s players will have been gathered somewhere, watching, social media team at the ready waiting to capture all the footage of us not winning and handing them the title. When we fell behind you can be sure there will have been celebrations. It’s just a shame we’ll never see any of it, or their reactions when Taki and Joel scored. Actually we don’t need to see that, just play Tyler’s commentary as that will capture their mood perfectly. So a big three points from a team that just refuses to go away. It’s still highly unlikely that we will win the title, but it’s more likely than it was a week ago so that’s something to cling to I suppose. I’m not even dwelling on it too much. If Villa do something at the Etihad then great, but I’m not holding out much hope for it and I’m not even really thinking about it much. I’m just looking forward to going to Anfield and seeing us do our thing. Just beat Wolves and then see how the chips fall. If City win there won’t be any sulking at Anfield, we’re having a party at full time no matter what this Sunday. Two cups to celebrate and the opportunity to show our appreciation to the lads for all they’ve done this season. And the small matter of seeing them off before their date with Real Madrid. Note to any mischief making African journalists reading this. I did not just call the Champions League final “small”. Star man is difficult because there are half a dozen strong contenders. Bobby got it on Sky and I did think he was very good, especially in the second half. I think we had better though. Milner was so fucking good in the first half in that number six role. He had to go to right back when Gomez went off and he was solid there too. Harvey was really good, Curtis was even better and Kostas was quality again. I think I’m going for Konate though. I probably didn’t think that at the time but having slept on it and thought a bit more about the game, the big lad was just so fucking dominant. His form has been unreal since the turn of the year and he’s had much more of an impact on this season than I thought he would. There’s no bigger Joel Matip fan than me (other than Virgil) but it’s really hard to even contemplate not picking Konate now isn’t it? Klopp is often asked about how hard it is picking a team and he says that’s the easy part. The hard thing is leaving lads out of the squad completely. Taki might not even make the bench this Sunday, and if he does then it might be at the expense of Origi. Harvey probably won’t make it either, or if he does then it will be Ox missing out. The depth is just unprecedented, along with a lot of other things we’ve seen this season. Not least this; we might actually win the fucking lot! Team: Alisson; Gomez (Henderson), Matip, Konate, Tsimikas; Milner, Elliott (Origi), Jones; Minamino, Firmino (Keita), Jota:
    14 points
  2. I'm 10 years older than my bird, the very last thing I need her knowing is that I spent most of the time when I was her current age posting on the internet to Wools and trying to climb the rep chart.
    8 points
  3. Was picking the Mrs up from work and she'd just done parents evening. She was going on about one of the Latvian kids' mums. "You should see her she's so pretty, she looks like a model". Was very, very close to saying "pics or GTFO."
    8 points
  4. I've never really known how to broach the topic of TLW with the Mrs. "Why are you always on your phone?" "I'm talking to my internet friends about toilet habits, baldness, politics and occasionally football. I've been doing it since I was 26." "Oh right."
    6 points
  5. I find German supporters a bit shit. Its choreographed and led by loud hailers, the fans all wear the same gear, tonight white shirts, hats and plastic flags. The repetitive 2 line chants follow each other consistently with one section following the other. The result can look good visually and it means there is a constant noise from them which will always drown out the way British fans and I include us, Rangers and Celtic, support their teams. If we go to Helsinki it will happen there and all non Liverpool fans will be talking about how they out sang us. The thing is, its too well organised, there are no songs just continual boring, albeit loud, noise. No spontaneity or individualism just an efficient fan performance. All very German.
    6 points
  6. I’m happy for my Dad he’s 82 supported Everton all his life, he’s really happy when we win, played football with Brian Labone, signed for Man United as a Kid, his brother wasn’t allowed to sign for Liverpool despite Shankly asking my Nana And Grandad if he would better work as as a mechanic. Dad loved seeing Shankly talking to his parents in the front room when he got back from work.
    5 points
  7. All the people on here moaning about it being shit, that's because European Football is stitched up so the 10 or so richest clubs in the four or five big countries get to keep all the money. Laughing at those teams tonight is like laughing at two homeless people who have won a meal in a fancy restaurant. We should be thanking them for getting there & spreading the wealth about a bit.
    5 points
  8. If I had a kid with polio who supported Everton I'd still think it was funny as fuck if they went down, then I'd make them race me for an ice cream.
    4 points
  9. Not gonna lie, that's completely pissed on my chips.
    4 points
  10. Sad that. I always liked this with Jon Anderson. RIP.
    4 points
  11. 4 points
  12. There isn’t a stadium in the world that could supply enough tickets to satisfy our demand, but there isn’t any excuse to try and “ bunk in” to a ground anywhere. The possible danger to other fans of overcrowding, of police overreacting and battering innocent fans indiscriminately, the slur on the clubs name and the ramifications from UEFA for the club, should stop anyone purporting to be a Red from doing something that stupid. Every club has its share of cunts though and we’re no different I suppose. Athens brought that home to me sadly.
    4 points
  13. Pretty sure I've said it before on this thread but I find it very hard to resist the overwhelming urge to say "never heard of the cunt" when someone mentions some famous blert that apparently I should know of. That and advising people to either "cunt them in the bastard" or "set their house on fire as a warning" as idle threats. This place has made me.
    4 points
  14. A mix of massive disappointment and pain that they try and mask but end up overcompensating for massively with all their shite like 'born not manufactured' 'we go the game' blah blah blah.... This leads to them feeling they have to show that they somehow care more about their club and are somehow special/more passionate - but because they are so hurt and disappointed they can't help but release all those feelings of disappointment with displays of anger like that, like that fella who was throwing punches at players whilst holding his kid...like the abusing of opposition players...like throwing stuff at players. It is like how someone who is pissed off with their own life and who has low self esteem - slags everyone and everything else off, criticises everybody else, begrudges everyone else any joy and feels the need to try and belittle others in a futile attempt to make themselves feel better/superior. Ultimately though their own disappointment and hurt eats away at them, and they just resort to more and more displays of anger, blaming everyone else and slagging everyone else - then they justify it by claiming everyone else is against them and all they are doing is fighting back/dealing with injustice....but it's all a front - it is ALL their own unhappiness, disappointment and hurt and it makes them bitter and twisted.
    3 points
  15. Looking at the crowd on the pitch, the vast, vast majority of them look like footage from a Ring doorbell.
    3 points
  16. VPREIL?? Not sure that works. @Trumo?
    3 points
  17. Fucking Leicester. Come on you twats.
    3 points
  18. Villa have a player called Maxwell Cornet? Tremendous. If his shirt number isn't 99 that's a disgrace.
    3 points
  19. I have a good mind to report these bastards to Trade Descriptions. The Big Biscuit Box?! KitKats and Blue Ribands are wafers, Yorkies and Toffee Crisps are chocolate bars, so that just leaves the Breakaways. Fuming!
    3 points
  20. Why would anyone feel anything other than positive about it? The men have won 2 cups, could win 3/4, and the women have won something as well. Yeah, it'll be worse if we don't win the Champions League, but it's still totally fair.
    3 points
  21. 3 points
  22. He used to live by my mate's Auntie on the Wirral. Joey gave my mate's Auntie a pair of his Welsh shorts for my mate to wear,and boy did he wear them! He had them for years and took every opportunity to wear them until the arse fell out of them,quite literally. We took the piss out of him constantly as they were way too big and he had legs like the chalk end of a snooker cue.
    3 points
  23. We’ve got this little fella till Saturday. Minding him for my birds mate. Georgie is the name, wanting to play 24/7 is the game
    3 points
  24. There’d be a few on here queuing up for that.
    3 points
  25. I'm unashamedly open about my TLW habits and history with the wife. Firstly, it's lead to me finding out about all sorts of interesting stuff that I may not otherwise have done. Secondly, I've met and made friends with people from here and she's met them too - she didn't find it too weird that we met with RiS in Stockholm and theghost and CrouchieBoy in Seattle, in fact quite the opposite. The Prof sent us a wonderful baby gift for goodness sake, this place is life enhancing and she knows it (not SKI herself).
    3 points
  26. And so the domestic season comes down to this. We need a win against Wolves, and hope that Villa upset the odds by taking something other than a good hiding away from the Etihad. We can do our bit, but we have no control over what happens over there. Though we had a couple of games in hand on City in early January, they were so far ahead on points that the league title was all but wrapped up for them. For us to close the gap down to a point with just one game to go speaks volumes for this manager and his players. They’ve done so while also getting to the final (at least) of every cup competition they’ve entered this season. It’s genuinely extraordinary, and it still has the possibility of being something even better than that. First things first though. Nerve. Intelligence. Nous. Energy. Tenacity. Yer ma. Tactical flexibility. Winning touch. Order. I don’t ask for much. Last season’s fixture finished with a comfortable 4-0 win for the Reds. Following a fine full-stretch save by stand-in keeper Kev/Queef/whatever he’s called from Podence’s delicate chip from the edge of the area, we took the lead when Mo latched onto an error by Wolves’ former Red Conor Coady to slot the ball past the keeper. We had a few thousand fans in the ground for this one and they made a hell of a racket. Coady then hit the deck in our penalty area and Wolves were initially awarded the spot kick before VAR intervened to rule it out. Sadio had gone in to challenge but pulled out at the last second, so the expected contact Coady was looking for never arrived. Gini doubled our lead in the second half when racing on to meet Hendo’s clever pass following a swift break, and firing a sweet effort into the top corner from 20 yards. Big Bird got in on the act to bullet a far post header into the net from Mo’s right wing cross following a short corner. In the dying stages, Trent’s peach of a low cross was put into his own net by the despairing Nelson Semedo who’d tried to prevent a tap in for Sadio. In truth Sadio should have finished it off himself but got his timing wrong, scuffing his attempted effort onto his standing leg with the ball ricocheting in off Semedo. December 1977 saw Wolves visit Anfield just after Christmas. The Reds were doing well in the European Cup (which would be retained with victory over Club Brugge at Wembley) but in the league, it was Brian Clough’s Nottingham Forest in the ascendancy. Their story is not too dissimilar to when Leicester won the league. Unlike Leicester, Clough’s team would also prove to have the cojones to win domestic and European trophies over the next couple of years. Liverpool saw off Wolves 1-0 thanks to a twice-taken penalty by Phil Neal in the first half. It sounds like one of those games where we struggled to get going but did just enough to claim the points. Couple of interesting points about that Wolves team. Their manager was called Sammy Chung (an unusual sounding name for that era), and they had Steve Daley in their ranks. He’s the player Man City would piss away the best part of £1.5m on at the tail end of the 70s, which was a British record sum at the time. Not the first time City have spent over the odds on a player, though of course these days most of the cost is kept off the club’s books and placed on that of the secretive parent company and the ruling regime. I can’t find highlights of the game so here’s the Guardian’s match report. The big box office smash around Christmas 1977 was John Travolta’s other big 70s hit, Saturday Night Fever. The story of a working class teenage New Yorker named Tony Manero who seeks escape from his humdrum existence working in a hardware store in the form of being a god on the dance floors at the disco. It’s a story about disaffected youth seeing the medium of dance as a (albeit temporary) chance to be a somebody and stand out from the crowd. The basic premise has been successful in cinema before. They Shoot Horses, Don’t They? is an example from the late 60s (and one that featured in one of my match threads earlier this season), and the likes of Footloose come to mind from the 80s. Anyway, Saturday Night Fever is a very watchable film in its own right but what really lifts it is the stellar soundtrack. The Bee Gees had a bit of a renaissance off the back of their new disco-infused sound, and there are other hits from the likes of The Trammps (‘Disco Inferno’) and Yvonne Elliman (‘If I Can’t Have You’). For me though, the standouts are by David Shire (‘Manhattan Skyline’) and Walter Murphy (‘A Fifth of Beethoven’), both brilliant musical interludes, the former sounding pure 70s disco and the latter modernising a classic. So successful was the film that only a couple of years later it got parodied for one scene in Airplane!, song and all! I’d imagine Klopp will look to more of his first choice regulars for this one, partly because they might be available, and partly to give them some match action prior to the following week’s big one. Commitment, attitude and application have not been a problem for the squad this season and I wouldn’t suddenly expected them to be. They can only play the game in front of them, and not think about what’s going on elsewhere. The fans will let them know anyway, as happened in this very fixture in 2019 when we took the lead and then heard that City had fallen behind at Brighton. There was a party atmosphere for a couple of minutes until news filtered through of a City equaliser. I was at a wedding party in Florida back then and the wifi was so shit at the venue, I only found out a couple of hours later what had happened on the day. Anyway, for this one all we can do is go all out for the win, and see where we are at the end. Just finish the job and hope Hendo gets to break out the shuffle sometime around 6:00pm. You should be dancin’!
    2 points
  27. The new turd that won't flush. Sunderland and Villa were like that for years in the not-too-distant past. Going back to the 90s, it was Coventry and Southampton. It happened eventually but bloody hell did the bog brush get a hammering.
    2 points
  28. It had to be announced early for the police to organise enough officers on duty to cope with the potential size of the crowds. In any case, not many teams win the two domestic cups in the same season and reach the final of the Champions League and finish Winners/Runners Up in the League. Plus the Women’s team have their Champions Trophy to show as well. A fabulous season which should be celebrated with a parade.
    2 points
  29. Everton support that has been right by their side? They booed them off the pitch at half time you fucking polling station
    2 points
  30. One of the funniest goals / gifs this year
    2 points
  31. Make diving and play acting your only skill then be outraged when refs don't give you legitimate fouls. You reap what you sow.
    2 points
  32. I thought the highlight of that was when he was sacked and Kenny took the reins?
    2 points
  33. Perfect for keeping you warm in the winter months though. Just pop it in your pocket and be warm all game long.
    2 points
  34. I'm 75, now watch this drive.
    2 points
  35. I've heard on the Grapevine that chippy tits was knee deep in something over Everton's ground, and that as a result they'll use the RICO act to arrest the entire fanbase as one criminal conspiracy.
    2 points
  36. First team to invent things which have already been invented.
    2 points
  37. Just seen a tweet that says ‘Liverpool Football Club have won more trophies this year than they've lost games.’ Staggering
    2 points
  38. Not to mention that wonderful players at our club in the past have sweated blood to win this particular trophy.
    2 points
  39. This is the thing, it's not defending them, this is reality. Their behaviour is obviously wrong. But they're cunts. Complete and utter cunts. So nobody should be surprised by cuntish behaviour. It doesn't make it right. People shouldn't have to hide their flags. But life is life and the blues hatred of us is off the scale. It ruins their lives, so any chance they get to give pay back they do, even if it doesn't include sport. It was just the same with the Rafa situation. They were always going to give him and his family a bad time - in fact they did before he even joined. So there should be no surprise when they behave as advertised. It doesn'take it right, but it's going to happen. It's like expecting a Donner kebab not to be fatty. It's not the 80s though is it? I'm sure there's still not much difference in split, it's just reds have realised they're mental and it's easier to keep your head down.
    2 points
  40. Just read your reply. There are plenty of supporters who will miss out on tickets for this game, and who have missed out on tickets for previous finals too, after having stumped up their hard earned cash to watch the team home and away for years, and not just in the recent, successful, past either. We all put ourselves through the wringer watching the team in finals or tight league finishes, and I, like you, dislike the idea that there are many corporate, influential, or just very well off people who can rock up at these games and get a ticket. It’s obscene and will carry on because money always talks in the game these days. It still doesn’t justify bunking in for the reasons I gave in my previous post.
    2 points
  41. Well, that is his natural position, after all.
    2 points
  42. My phone autocorrect has just changed the word ‘robbed’ to ‘robbief’. * shakes head *
    2 points



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