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  1. You know what I was thinking about after this? It wasn’t how bad we were in the first half. It wasn’t how we bravely came back in the second half. It wasn’t even anything about this game. I just thought about that fucking stupid, inexcusable loss at Leicester a few months ago, and how that has completely skewed things to the point that a draw away at City now probably isn’t really good enough. I know we’ve dropped other points this season and some of you will look at Brentford away or Brighton at home. That’s fair enough, but to me those are just results that can happen throughout a season. The Leicester one just can’t happen though. Not when you’ve got literally everything stacked in your favour. Even if we’d drawn that game we’d be top right now. But we didn’t, we lost. And the consequence of that was we needed to go and win at City. And we never fucking win at City. In the end the draw is probably not going to be enough for us, but it’s probably a result we should be quite thankful for based on how the game went. We were lucky not to be down by three or four at half time because we were shambolic at times in that first half. It wasn’t all bad and there were spells in which we did quite well, but mostly it was a mess. The second half was much better and we probably shaded it, even if City still had the better chances. The performance from us was good and the character of the players is commendable, because at half time we looked in big trouble. I’d have snatched your hand off for a draw at half time because, if I’m being totally honest, I thought 4-1 or 5-1 was more likely than us getting something. As it turned out, I sold the lads short there. I’m appalled though that we did that thing so many shit teams do and allowed City to score inside the first five minutes. It’s rule number one when you play them. You just can’t do that, but we did. And although the goal was a fluke we can’t complain too much because we would have conceded even earlier but for a brilliant save by Alisson from Sterling. That doesn’t mean I have no complaints about the goal, because I do. And it’s more about the officiating than our defending. Firstly, and this is not the fault of the linesman but more the shitty changes they’ve made to the rules, there was an offside that wasn’t given in the lead up to the free kick that led to the goal. Sterling is miles offside and the ball is knocked up towards him. He doesn’t challenge for it, but him being there meant that Virgil had to head the ball clear because he can’t be sure Sterling is offside as he won’t know where the rest of the defensive line is. So I really don’t like that, but in fairness we would benefit from something similar on our first equaliser, which I’ll get to shortly. So the ball is headed clear and there’s a foul by Fabinho, who was miles off the pace for the entire first half. City took a quick free-kick, about six yards away from where the foul took place. Should that have been pulled back? Probably yeah, but I also feel that the attacking team should get some leeway in those circumstances. Six yeards of leeway? Not sure. That advantage meant that De Bruyne had the ball on the edge of our box before we were in any kind of position to deal with him. His shot took a wicked deflection of Matip and left Alisson with no chance. Proper fucking spawn shit, and not for the first time as he did the same thing at Anfield earlier in the season. The net result of it was that we’d done the one thing you can’t fucking do against these pricks - concede early. Thankfully their lead didn’t last long. We’d had a good couple of minutes where it felt as though we’d weathered the storm and were coming back into it, and then just like that we were level. Great move it was too. Starting with Thiago who shimmed away from a couple of opponents on halfway and then pinged a glorious ball out to Trent. He picked out Mo, and then I’m not sure if he was trying to find Sadio (who was miles offside) or Jota (who was running from deep). Either way, a defender got there first and headed clear but only as far as Robbo. He stood one up to the back post where Trent arrived and showed fantastic awareness to cushion the ball back to Jota for a simple finish. Keeper probably could have done better with that but who cares. I’m not comfortable about that being given as a goal because Mané is clearly offside and it looks like the ball was aimed at him, but that’s how the game is these days. I think it’s poorer as a result, but if I had my way there’d be less goals as neither of the first two goals in this game would have stood. I had hoped that the equaliser would deflate City and give us momentum, but it didn’t really. I think most of our problems were self inflicted, but that’s also doing City a dis-service because some of the things they did were brilliant. Not spectacularly brilliant, but there was just an efficiency and great skill in how they kept beating our high line over and over. That being said, the bigger problem for us was we kept trying to play out from the back and their high press kept catching us out. They did to us what we usually do to our opponents. Not only were they pressing well, but they were far more direct than usual. Again, that’s what we usually do. Quick passes in for runners in behind. It’s not City’s usual style but then they’ve changed massively how they play against us. We kept taking them to the cleaners and Guardiola has freely admitted that he’s spent countless hours thinking about how to beat us. Those hours have been well spent because their record against us in recent seasons is good, and even though they haven’t beaten us this season (not yet anyway, I fear the worst for this weekend though) the results aren’t really indicative of how those games have gone. It’s been really disheartening to me to see how they’ve been able to play against us in both games, and really they should have won both games based on how they played. Our first half display had me tearing my fucking hair out. Time and again we tried to pass it around at the back, but Alisson, Trent, Fabinho and even Matip on a couple of occasions just seemed flustered and kept giving it away. It was doing my fucking head in, because when we did get it forward I thought Ederson and his defenders looked ropey as fuck. What I would have liked to see us do is completely sack off that passing it out from the back and just bypass their press and back our forwards to win enough one v one battles to cause them problems. I know this is how we play and that Klopp wants us to play our football and that approach clearly works against every other team in the league. It hasn’t worked against City for a few years now though. City completely changed their normal approach against us because it wasn’t working, and to me it now looks like they’ve got our number, even if a pair of 2-2 draws would suggest otherwise. The eye test concerns me because it feels like they’ve outplayed us twice now and we’ve been lucky they didn’t spank us. We could easily have conceded four or five in the first half and we’re fortunate it was only the two. The second goal was shite from our point of view but once against highlights what City did to us that no-one else has been able to. For all the talk of our high line and how ‘risky’ it is, hardly anyone has been able to exploit it. I’m not entirely sure why everyone always runs offside against us because it’s honestly not THAT difficult to time a run so that you stay onside, but whatever the reason, hardly anyone seems to be able to do it. Then City come along and their players were doing it constantly. So many times I was yelling for offside only to see the replay and realise they were on. Even on those free-kicks when we ALWAYS catch the opposition offside they were continually timing their runs so they were onside, and they should have scored from one of those when Rodri stole in at the back post but put too much on his header across goal that would have led to a tap in for (I think) Laporte. We were riding our luck while offering precious little at the other end. Mo was a non-factor, Sadio couldn’t even stand up and kept slipping over, while Jota did fuck all aside from the goal. He wasted the only other decent opening we had too when he took too long to get his shot away and allowed Laporte to get back and made a spawn challenge. I’m not sure if Jota was wanting to win a pen there or not but the hesitation proved fatal as the chance was gone. City were threatening regularly and eventually made it count when Jesus beat Alisson to the ball and finished really well. I thought he was offside, as we’ve seen that movie so many times this season. I just expected VAR to bail us out but no, Jesus had times his run well and Matip had not got out quick enough. Trent had just about got out quickly enough but had ambled out while everyone else sprinted. Again, there were four City players miles offside but because the ball didn’t go to them under the modern rules that doesn’t matter. Jesus ran from deep and that caught us out. This hardly ever happens to us but it seems clear that City have worked hard on timing their runs. If you get that right, then we’re fucked. It’s worked so well because hardly anyone seems capable of getting it right. City did though. It was just a sickening goal to concede, but then every goal against them is sickening because of how hard it is to claw it back. I just hate playing them, there’s very little joy in it even when we’re playing well because the tension is unbearable as the stakes are nearly always so high. This was a horrible experience. Saturday will be too, but to a slightly lesser degree because the FA Cup isn’t as important as the title. It’s still really fucking important like and I’m not diminishing how big that game is, just saying that there isn’t quite as much riding on it. Then again, if one of City’s seven remaining opponents can do something against them that changes the importance of this result and could in fact make it a massive point for us. I feel as though it is anyway. It’s not the result I wanted, but coming from behind twice and getting a draw in a game in which we were second best for the majority of it is not something we can complain about. It’s arguably a better point for us than them even though the point is more beneficial to them than us, if that makes sense. What I mean is, if I’m Guardiola I’m frustrated as fuck that my team didn’t win this game and put us out of the picture completely. The point keeps their fate in their own hands, which is obviously good for them, but it also means we’re still right there breathing down their necks waiting for any slip up. If they’d taken their chances and beaten us, the title race would be over. They didn’t, and it isn’t. My half time team talk would have been to lay into them and basically say “That was fucking shit. sStop fucking about and get it to Sadio and Mo early. Get them turned around and play the game in their half. Now get out of my sight”. Thankfully I”m not in charge and we have someone who actually knows what he’s talking about and, more importantly, knows how to get the right response from his players. Apparently Klopp’s team talk wasn’t about the things we were doing wrong, it was more about highlighting and what we did well and encouraging them to do that more. Within a minute of the restart it had paid off as we were level. Great goal too. Hendo’s part in it shouldn’t be overlooked. Firstly he was in a good position to back up the play and pick up the second ball after Trent challenged for a header. Then, and this is the crucial bit, he was aware enough to see that Salah was a yard offside and he didn’t play that obvious pass to him. Instead he gave it Trent. He then gave it to Mo who then picked out a beautiful pass to Sadio who had stolen in behind Walker. What a fucking finish too. Sadio couldn’t do a thing right in the first half but it’s a mark of the man that when he was presented with an opportunity like that he was able to put it away so emphatically. He was phenomenal in the second half, but then everyone (ok, not quite everyone *glares at Jota*) upped their level I thought. For a little ten minute spell after that goal we really had City on the ropes but we couldn’t land the knockout punch. The closest we came was a Jota snapshot that Ederson saved. Mo had an effort that was heading for the far corner until it deflected inches wide off the thigh of Stones. We didn’t even get a corner for that, even though there was a VAR check for handball! I can forgive Taylor missing it because sometimes from the angle you’re looking at it you can’t always see a deflection. That’s where he needs help from the other officials. There’s no way that they all missed it, but none of them thought to tell him he’d fucked up. I’d been worried about him before the game, and also Tierney on VAR. As it turned out, they were fine. In fact, they had opportunities to screw us over if they’d wanted to, but they chose not to. Thiago and Fabinho between them could have had five or six yellow cards, and on another day Fabinho might have seen red for a studs up challenge that got Bernardo just above the ankle. I’m not saying that should have been a red, but there’s probably a 50-50 chance that you will get sent off for that. I have no complaints about Taylor or Tierney, and I’d even go as far as to say I think Taylor did pretty damn well considering the high stakes of the game and the pressure involved. He tried to let it flow and he only produced cards when it was absolutely necessary. Much as I don’t like him, there are a number of refs who I’d much rather be kept away from our games than him. As I said though, we just couldn’t take advantage of that good spell we had and it kind of fizzled out. We weren’t helped by Jota though. Fuck me he was terrible. He just kept passing the ball straight to City players and putting us on the back foot. I’d have hooked him a good ten minutes before he eventually made way for Diaz. It could just as easily have been Firmino who got the nod but I can see the attraction in the Diaz choice, not least because it allowed Sadio to be more influential by playing in the centre where there was more space and he wasn’t having to constantly run against the fastest player in the league. Diaz didn’t really do much though and with the benefit of hindsight I might have gone with Bobby instead. He did eventually get on for the last five minutes or so. Naby got a run out as well, as he replaced Hendo for the last 15. Not sure I agreed with that one. Thiago was a more obvious choice to go off as he looked like he was going to get sent off. Fabinho too for that matter. While I felt that we had more control of the game in the second half and looked the more likely winner, the best chances still fell to City. The difference between this and the first half was that their chances didn’t come because they had us under pressure. I didn’t really feel we were under much pressure after the break but they still carried a threat, mainly because of that fucking De Bruyne. He’s the only City player I have any time for, but if I’m being completely honest I still don’t like the cunt. He seems like a top lad, he’s never been anything other than complimentary and respectful about our team and the fans, but I don’t like him and it’s completely because he’s so fucking good and he plays for them. There’s nothing bad I can say about the guy, but he’s fucking brilliant and he hurts us whenever we face him. So he can fuck right off. The biggest moment of the second half was definitely the disallowed Sterling goal. I thought it was miles offside but because the linesman didn’t flag I was fearing the worst. They usually get those right so I knew it must have been really tight. And it was, but he was just offside because he was leaning forward and was just ahead of the heel of the last defender (Matip once again). What I didn’t like about that though was Jesus was fucking miles off and it looks to me like that’s who De Bruyne was playing it to. Maybe he was picking out Sterling, but it looks to me as though he’s playing that ball for Jesus who is off. So our defenders are paying more attention to him than Sterling, but then Jesus stops and lets Sterling run onto the ball. So again, correct decision under the modern laws to not flag Jesus off, but I still hate that as morally it’s offside to me. Thankfully Sterling was just off and we did not have to summon up a third equaliser. I suspect that would have been beyond us but who knows. My gut feeling was that might be a pivotal moment in the game and that if anyone was going to win it, it would be us. We just didn’t really create enough though despite having good possession in their half, and then right at the end we almost got done. Proper heart in mouth shit that was. Once again, De Bruyne split the defence with a brilliant ball that sent Mahrez clear. He cut inside onto his left foot and with Alisson having come flying out to try and put him off, Mahrez attempted to chip him. Good decision and if he’d been able to execute that it would have been a certain goal. The ball went sailing over the bar and initially I thought he’d just overcooked the chip. Turns out that Matip got something on it and that proved to be a goal saving block from him. So in the end, honours even and only time will tell if it’s a good result or not. If City win out then obviously this might be seen as a missed opportunity, but can we really say that? We can’t expect to go there and win and ordinarily a draw here is sound. But that fucking Leicester game…. Anyway, as I say, let’s see how the final games play out. I’m just glad we didn’t lose this because we probably should have. I am a bit disheartened by the way we don’t seem to really be able to hurt City the way we could a few years back when we’d have those explosive spells where we could blow them away. That hasn’t happened for ages now. Something else that I want to address is that twat Martin Tyler. Honesty, I know everyone goes on about him but he’s getting worse. It isn’t deliberate and I don’t even think it’s a conscious thing. You can’t really fake what he’s doing, it’s just his natural emotion and reaction to things that gives away just how much he’s wanting us to lose. I’m not saying it’s always been like that, it hasn’t. “Collymore closing iiiiiinnnnnnnnn” was an iconic bit of commentary that did the moment justice. In recent years though his agenda has become glaringly obvious. The excitement in his voice when the opposition have a chance or score. The indifference when it’s us. There were so many examples of it in this game but the one moment that stood out was when the ball fell to Grealish in our box. Not in an especially threatening position mind, but Tyler sounded like he was about to go into a full orgasm as he yelled “GREALISH!!!!” before absolutely fuck all came of it. As I say, that’s pure, natural, instinct. He doesn’t do it deliberately but it absolutely betrays the emotion he’s feeling. Quite why anyone would be rooting for them cheating cunts is absolutely beyond me, but Tyler was absolutely hoping for a City win there. The sooner he retires the better, he’s so bad he’s got me pining for that old goat Motson. Anyway, the result means it’s advantage City now. They’ll probably win every game now because they’ve done it before and there are only really two games where they might encounter any sort of resistance. West Ham and Wolves could give them some problems, but no-one else will. Some will look to the romance aspect of Stevie denying them on the last day to hand the title to us, but there’s one major stumbling block there. Aston Villa are fucking shit, and even if they weren’t, I find that “never, EVER, rely on Aston Villa for anything” is a smart policy to live one’s life by. So all we can do is try to win our games and then hope for the best. In the meantime we have what should be a routine second leg against Benfica and then we have to do it all over again with City next weekend. Will that be more of the same or will things be different this time? They’ve got a tougher midweek test than us so that helps, but I fear that if we try to play them the same way we have the last few times then we’re in trouble, because they’ve got the answer to it now. So, basically we need to come up with a different question. Star man is… fuck, I don’t even know. I thought Thiago was our best player in the first half but then he was lucky to not get sent off in a somewhat erratic second half. Sadio was horrendous in the first half but brilliant in the second. Matip and Van Dijk were probably our most dependable over the course of the whole game but neither were faultless. If pushed I’d go with Virgil but I don’t feel especially strongly about it. Team: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson (Keita), Thiago; Salah, Jota (Diaz), Mané (Firmino):
    13 points
  2. Yes, exactly this. Delighted Chelsea are on their way out, and hope Atletico find a whole new level of shithousery tomorrow that makes every single British football pundit, commentator, and journalist burst into fucking tears at the injustice of it all. More issue with a side being defensive and wasting time than a club owned by a fucking oil state.
    11 points
  3. I think you can disappear up your own arsehole endlessly worrying about combinations for other teams in draws and how it will affect them in other competition games. You can play a far easier team but lose 2 key players to injury for instance. All I know is that when the CL 'group of death' was on the tv screen at the first draw, if you had said that we would win all 6 group games, be 3-1 up on Benfica with a home leg to come and if all goes well a potential semi final with Villareal, my kecks woukd have been down and I would have been throwing myself around the room.
    7 points
  4. What would top it off is a comfortable night for the lads tomorrow. Horrible game for city and they go out. Not arsed about this talk of more games for city etc. A sapping semi versus Chelsea etc. Get these english sides out. Fucking rats all of em.
    7 points
  5. That shot still gives me chills when I see it.
    5 points
  6. 5 points
  7. I don't know what to make of ten Hag. He's clearly a decent coach and his Ajax team generally punch above their weight and play good football. But he doesn't seem to be a particularly big personality, just a facilitator - and Ajax are as stable a structure in European football as you'll find, with expectation levels - from board and fanbase - kept pretty realistic. He'll have none of that at the toilet. They need a big character, someone totemic like Houllier was for us, who can transform the club and dressing room culture, shame the dickheads into compliance or show them the door. I'm not sure he's that. They're also dysfunctional as hell from top to bottom so he won't have the benefit of a stable club to just slot into. And he'll be working to impossible expectations from all angles so the deck is stacked against him. Still though - other than Klopp or Guardiola, who out there would be an absolute banker for them? I don't think the coach is the quick fix they want it to be because there's nobody who's that good who's available. They tried some of the 'best of the rest' candidates (well, Jose anyway) and they couldn't do it - so the only way back for them is the long haul of rebuilding the club from the ground up whilst an impatient set of cunts watch on in despair at having lost their vessel for one-upmanship turn into a "project" rather than the "biggest club in the world." LONG MAY IT CONTINUE.
    4 points
  8. Though his story's seldom told.
    4 points
  9. Yeah, good shout, he’d be in my top five best vampires. 1. Count von Count 2. Count Dracula (Christoper Lee) 3. Count Duckuka 4. Lilly Munster (Yvonne De Carlo) 5. Star (Jami Gertz, The Lost Boys)
    4 points
  10. I just can’t have your whole Leicester thing, Dave. You’re absolutely right in everything you say about what a shit result it was and yet when the margins are so fine every week in a competition as ridiculously intense as the PL, it’s understandable that we have one or two proper shite days. It’s actually pretty remarkable that we don’t have more though to be honest, because for pretty much the entire history of the English top flight, that’s been the norm. Even with that utter shit show we’re still light years better than anyone else who preceded us bar the cheating cunts out in front. So that performance and result is only shite because we’re trying to keep pace with cheats. And that’s not on us.
    4 points
  11. They never bothered protesting when they signed varane, sancho and Ronaldo after finishing 2nd last year. They are protesting that they are shit. Entitled pricks.
    4 points
  12. It's as you were in the title race as the Reds were unable to close the gap on leaders City and needed to twice come from behind to even secure a draw. Chris Smith is joined by Julian Richards and TLW Editor Dave Usher to discuss the game and the implications of the result on the rest of the season. Do we need to change our approach against City now? Can we win out and even if we can, will it be enough? View full article
    3 points
  13. It’s a testament to Azpuliballbag being such a twat he even gets booked when he’s not on the field.
    3 points
  14. Apparently he was a cunt in a previous life
    3 points
  15. Fuck me he looks like someone has drawn Ken Barlow onto a ball bag!
    3 points
  16. https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2022/04/12/jack-monroe-rebuttal-of-ignorant-take-on-food-poverty/ Here’s an article on it, and the tweet below is her reply to the Tory prick yesterday. You can then see subsequent replies when you click into it. I agree, she’s ace!
    3 points
  17. Love the way the Met waited until recess to issue the fines too. We're basically Colombia with cricket.
    3 points
  18. ‘An Englishman, an Indian and an American walk into a bar … “usual, Mr Sunak?” says the barman.’
    3 points
  19. If you're going to quote from the Book of Revelation Don't keep calling it the Book of Revelations Half Man Half Biscuit - Shit Arm, Bad Tattoo
    3 points
  20. Five pages in and nobody has mentioned my first love yet, Susanna Hoffs, who (it should be pointed out) still looks absolutely tremendous today.
    3 points
  21. Think my first was Glynis Barber in Dempsey and Makepeace in about 1985
    3 points
  22. Glen Campbell was a sensational guitarist.
    3 points
  23. Sounded ace yesterday, I recant my earlier criticism.
    3 points
  24. Yep, hopefully we'll get to Dick Emery.
    2 points
  25. No doubt about it??? Behave. They couldn’t beat us this season (yet) and there’s only one point between us over the last four years! They may be better than us (they’re not) but if so, it’s far from conclusive.
    2 points
  26. When they’re both retired, Nat Phillips and Benzema should set up a company to break up old ships and warehouses with their foreheads.
    2 points
  27. Except I want them to not win the Champions League. Ever.
    2 points
  28. Actually felt nervous reading that, a sort of almost PTSD
    2 points
  29. It's what happens when you have a brain transplant and a potato is the donor
    2 points
  30. Cracking goal that. Modric is going to be 37 in September.
    2 points
  31. Loftus-Cheek has been comfortably Real Madrid's best player.
    2 points
  32. Pull them up on this and you get told that they've been protesting for years. Glazers were at a game early this season, why no protest then? I dunno, maybe it was because they come off the back of a freak season finishing second, bought Varane, Sancho and brought Ronaldo back and thought the were going to challenge for the league. Fickle, spoilt dickheads.
    2 points
  33. You can be ok with him but I fucking love the cunt!
    2 points
  34. Couldn't read a note and was the anchor to one of the great session bands of all time. Countless hit records he played on. I played golf with him a couple times in AZ. Top fella.
    2 points
  35. Listen to you. Sheltered away from all the trauma, living it up in peace in Sudan. For the rest of us, there’s war, WAR, happening basically on our doorstep.
    2 points
  36. This lad only scores shit whistler’s
    2 points
  37. After the news from 2010, here is also Tom Cooper with the news about the last three days. https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-9-10-11-april-2022-78fbb8e24a4e
    2 points
  38. You’d be posh around my neck of the woods, might say more about where I live! Keep up the good work.
    2 points
  39. Probably not as determined as Dirk though!
    2 points
  40. I saw Gary Moore a few times, one time at the Royal Court, he did the gig and then announced at the end of the show they would be doing an album signing at Penny Lane the next morning, so I went home to Runcorn then back the next morning to get my copy of "Corridors Of Power" signed....still have it....would never part with it
    2 points
  41. I would have happily posed for him if only he'd asked.
    2 points
  42. Hundreds of millions near the relegation zone and now they're heroes. The only reason they're staying up is because Burnley are a mess but they followed the rules and the Butcher of Yemen gave Newcastle a 100 million to spend in January and weaken Burnley in the process.
    2 points
  43. I can post you a positive covid test.
    2 points
  44. 2 points



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