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  1. We usually lose here so this is a good point. The onus is on the home team to win these fixtures, particularly when they’re behind in the table, so it’s a better point for us than it is for City. So I’m not disappointed or upset by this, especially as neither side deserved to win the game. The result is fine, the performance was ok and it’s a point gained on the last couple of seasons. That said, we probably should be winning this as, whisper it, Man City are really not that great anymore. They’re still good, on their day very good even, but they aren’t great. If you look at that eleven that took to the field against us, man for man we’re considerably better in most positions, even without Van Dijk, Fabinho and Thiago, who all would have started had they been available. City just aren’t as strong as they were. De Bruyne is phenomenal, Sterling is always a danger and Jesus is a constant goal threat. Other than that their side is very ‘meh’ these days. Still better than most and very easy on the eye, but there's been a big drop off from where they were and where they are. It’s the name and reputation they’ve built up under Guardiola’s time there that scares you rather than that actual line up they put out these days. So really, if this game was played ten times I think we probably should win maybe five or six minimum, with the rest mostly draws and maybe one or at most two losses. So why didn’t we win this then? Lots of reasons but first and foremost because we didn’t make it count enough when we had them reeling in the opening 25 minutes. That was the time to make hay while the sun was shining, but we only scored once. City were always going to come back into the game and have a spell of their own so we needed to get ahead before that happened. Klopp’s surprising team selection caught them on the hop and they couldn’t cope with it in the early stages. All the talk beforehand was whether it would be Firmino or Jota starting but Klopp shocked everyone by picking them both in what was virtually a 4-2-4 formation. Call it 4-4-2 if you like and at times it was, but that’s as close to 4-2-4 as you’ll see in the modern game. Firmino wasn’t playing deep, he was in a traditional front two alongside Mo. That was the big surprise to me. He wasn’t playing a deeply withdrawn striker’s role and he wasn’t a number ten in a 4-2-3-1, he was playing as a second striker just a little bit off Mo. City weren’t prepared for it and we tore into them early on. As Neville pointed out on commentary, virtually every single pass we played was forward as we tried to get in behind them at every opportunity. I loved that. There are two ways to play against City. Let them have the ball and counter attack, or just play direct and get in behind their high line. Playing the first way doesn’t really suit us that much as we’re a front foot team. So the all out attack philosophy is something I’m well on board with. I liked what Klopp tried to do and it worked brilliantly for a while. We led through a well taken Salah penalty after Mané had turned Kyle Walker in the box and been brought down. That was some lovely football on the left. Lots of quick, intricate passing and direct movement that City couldn’t cope with. Roy Keane was absolutely scathing of Walker at half time and it was fucking hilarious. “Mané’s done well but he’s up against an idiot” is arguably the best bit of punditry all season. Closely followed by “I keep hearing that he’s playing well but I don’t see it. He’s torty years old and he’s a train wreck”. I see why Walker gets the stick he does and he does make mistakes but I think overall he’s pretty good and not the disaster some make him out to be. He’s often got a mad moment in him but he’s City’s best defender and he gets them out of trouble a hell of a lot. So I thought Keane’s criticism was over the top but still fucking hilarious. I didn’t think it was especially bad play by Walker in the first instance when he got turned. He just got tricked by Sadio and thought he was playing a one two with Robbo. Instead of playing the return pass though Mané turned and Walker was beat. Dangling the leg out like that was poor judgement though and yeah, kind of typical of what we often see him do. The goal had been coming since the start though. We looked dangerous every time we went forward and Bobby had a couple of early half chances he couldn’t quite convert. Actually, I should probably mention that City wanted a free-kick just before we scored. Sterling was on the attack and was bumped by Jota but he stayed on his feet because he wasn’t in the box. His intention was obviously to keep on running, wait for another challenge in the area and then claim a penalty. That’s what he does. Nevertheless, that was defo a foul and the ref should have pulled play back and given it. He didn’t though, he waved play on and a minute or so later Walker is bring down Sadio. City’s players were angry and confronted the ref but that’s standard stuff for them as they’ve never seen a decision they couldn’t dispute. In this case they had a point though as that was definitely a foul on Sterling. The boy who cried wolf perhaps applies here. The first moment of danger for us was self inflicted as Gini got caught in possession which allowed De Bruyne to get clear on the right. As you’d expect, he delivered a great ball across the box that found Sterling, but Alisson stood big and made a good block before Matip hacked clear from near the line. That brief scare apart it was all going well for us but then one lapse in judgement cost us. I knew we were in trouble the second Gini chose to charge out to close down Walker and left De Bruyne all alone in the middle. You could see that problem develop almost immediately and I actually gave an audible “oh no Gini” as soon as it happened. A few seconds later the ball is in the net. Call it sour grapes if you like but I don’t think Jesus meant that touch at all. Maybe I’m not giving him the credit he deserves and I'm biased because he's permanently got a face like an over indulged kid who's finally been told he's not having ice cream for dessert and he doesn't know how to deal with it. He annoys the fuck out of me because he always looks hard done by and is constantly complaining about something. On a scale of punchable faces he's somewhere in between Jacob Rees-Mogg and Richarlison. So yeah I think it was a lucky touch and he mis-controlled it. He reacted very quickly and finished well with a toe poke, so fair play to him for his sharpness but I don’t believe he meant that touch that wrong footed Trent. Doesn't really matter if he meant or not though does it? I thought Matip could have blocked that if he’d actually made a challenge. It was a timid effort from him as he could have thrown himself in front of it and made a block, but instead he tip toed in there and arrived too late. Probably a lack of match sharpness, which is understandable. Overall he was fucking boss though and it’s great having him back, for however long it may last. As for Gini, I think Carragher’s explanation of it at half time is probably spot on. Usually, in the 4-3-3 system we always play, Gini’s job would be to fly out there and close down the full back if Mané wasn’t in position to do it. So what he’s done is just muscle memory, it’s what he always does. In that split second it’s understandable that he’s made that decision but really he needed to just let Walker have it and ensure the pass to De Bruyne wasn’t on. By and large we did a good job of restricting De Bruyne, but he got in down that right hand side again soon after and it cost us a penalty. I knew it would be given even though clearly that should never, ever be given as a penalty. Unfortunately the cunts in charge of making rules are doing everything they can to kill football, and they’re succeeding. Kev the Red missed the pen so I can say this without it sounding like I’m just angry about it costing us a goal. Football is becoming almost unwatchable because of what the law makers have done with offside, handball and VAR. It’s genuinely shit and it’s ruining games. The penalty given against Wolves earlier that day was a fucking disgrace too. Then there’s the ludicrous offside against my boy Bamford in the Leeds game the day before. This isn’t football. It’s shit. They’re ruining the game with their traffic warned like overly officious, jobsworth fucking bullshit. I’d love to get these cunts in a room and… I don’t know, blow it up. Honestly, these faceless, nameless, busy bastards have taken a great sport and made it almost unwatchable. There is literally nothing Joe Gomez could have done to prevent that ball hitting his arm. In fact, you can see he actually did everything humanly possible to avoid it. His arm isn’t stretched out to make himself bigger. It’s in a natural running motion, but when he realises the ball is heading straight for it he actually pulls it back into his body, turns his chest away and almost manages to avoid being hit by the ball. I’m not going to have a go at Craig Pawson for giving the penalty because I’d be willing to bet if you were able to talk to him privately he’d say it’s not a penalty in a million years and he didn’t want to give it. But he has no choice. Not just because the VAR probably told him he has to give it, but because he himself knows that this is the fucking bullshit that the lawmakers want now. I would like to know how the Gomez one was any different to the Cancelo incident in the second half. VAR looked at that and did nothing. Why? The ball hits Cancelo’s elbow. It wasn’t deliberate, he tried to pull his arms into his body, but it hit him on the elbow and it was a goal bound shot. So how is that not a penalty when the Gomez one was? Of course neither of them should be penalties in a normal world, but this isn’t a normal world. It’s a world where stupid cunts are allowed to make stupid rules that everyone can see are just fucking stupid. Football is basically just a microcosm of normal society I guess. I’m so disillusioned with it all right now and it isn’t specifically about decisions that have gone against us. I mean yeah, that hurts more on a personal level (and there have been some fucking stinking ones) but it’s more than that. It’s the game as a whole. I’m genuinely distressed and irritated when I see a goal disallowed because Bamford is pointing where he wants the ball played and his arm is deemed to be offside even though his feet are on by about a fucking yard. How is that good for the game? I’ve mentioned it before, but I was even fuming when Lindelof conceded a pen for handball a month or so back. It was scandalous and I didn’t even care that it was Man United. This shit is far bigger than club rivalries. It’s about the game we all love and how it’s being ruined by cunts who seem to have no idea about the sport that pays their mortgages. Anyway, thankfully De Bruyne put the penalty wide otherwise we might be talking about another Goodison style screw job. That first half had been played at break neck speed and there were chances at both ends. We had the better of it and Emerson was incredibly lucky to see a shot from Trent squirm loose and under his legs but somehow stay close enough to him that he was able to dive on it ahead of Jota. Just prior to that we had a glorious chance to score when Henderson’s incredible pass over the shoulder of Diaz sent Sadio clear. Ederson came out and for a split second the right foot chip was on as Mané cut inside, but he took an extra touch and the chance was gone. Eventually he worked it to Mo who played in Trent for the shot, but if Sadio could have got that chip away what a goal we’d have been talking about. Ederson got away with another erratic moment in the second half when he needlessly parried a deflected Salah shot straight to Jota, but unfortunately by the time he got it under control his shot was weak and lacked conviction. Frustrating. Jota didn’t look anywhere near as lively as he has done of late, but a lot of that may have been down to the amount of defending he was expected to do, especially after the break when City were much more in control than they had been. We didn’t really do anything in the second half and I thought Klopp should have changed it and got an extra midfielder on. I liked the initial idea of blitzing them with four forwards, but when Guardiola rested to it and changed City’s shape to combat it, that’s when we should have gone back to the normal 4-3-3 I felt. The four up top was worth a try and it certainly caught City on their heels to begin with, but I don’t think I want to see it too often. I thought Firmino played ok and I don’t have anything negative to say about his performance. What I would say is I don’t think he’s special enough that we need to change a tried and trusted set up so we can keep him in the team. He’s either in a front three on merit or he’s on the bench. In fairness to Klopp I think his hand was forced a little by Thiago and Fabinho being out. Do we really think he’d have picked this team if either or both of those two were available? I doubt it myself. After half an hour of this game we lost the initiative. I wouldn’t say that City had it either, but they did take it away from us and after that it was just an even contest. I thought the forwards got a bit wasteful in possession and the rest of the team were trying to hit them too early instead of playing through City a bit more patiently. I’d have switched Jota and Mo at half time. Putting Salah on the right would have forced Cancelo into staying back more and given him a lot to think about, while we saw in midweek how dangerous Jota is running in behind. We definitely overdid that early ball over the top or into the channels and it gave City no trouble in the second half. They were waiting for it and cut it out time after time. You know what this game really needed? Thiago. He’d have made all the difference to us in a game like this. Hendo and Gini were outstanding (although Gini did caught on the ball two or three times) in terms of the ground they covered and how they used the ball, but having an extra man in there would have made it so much easier for them. Ideally that would have been Thiago, but Fabinho was a big miss too. Eventually Klopp changed after about an hour, but surprisingly it was Big Shaq who came on for Bobby. He was good. Very neat and tidy and he helped out defensively too from that right sided position. We just weren’t particularly dangerous anymore and in that second half it looked like both teams were playing not to lose rather than to try and win. City probably pushed harder than we did, but they seemed mainly concerned about not over-committing and filling spaces to prevent us hitting them with our speed. Whatever changes Guardiola made to combat the early storm we unleashed certainly worked and both teams kind of cancelled each other out in the second half. Trent went off with what looked like a torn calf and was replaced by Milner, who did a great job against Sterling. Doesn’t look good for Trent that one as calf injuries are absolute bastards to overcome as when you think it’s fine it often isn’t. Everyone is going to have to get used to this though as players will be dropping like flies over the next few months. This is why Klopp wanted five subs but it was foolishly voted down and now this is going to be the norm. The smaller clubs felt the five subs would be an advantage for the bigger clubs, but it’s actually not. If anything it’s the opposite. You’ve got some teams like, say, Burnley for example, who play the same eleven every week and have very little squad depth. That’s why they didn’t want the five subs, because they can’t bring Shaqiri, Milner, Mahrez, Jesus, Greenwood, Pogba etc off the bench. Understandable, but what happens in the Christmas and New Year period when their players are fucked and starters are pulling up with torn hammy’s all over the shop? The teams with the deeper squads will be able to cope better than the Burnleys and Evertons of this world, but the five subs would have helped the smaller clubs keep their starters fresher. Anyway, there’s nothing we can do about that now and Trent is just the latest casualty of what is likely to be a long list. This season is going to be a war of attrition as much as anything else. We’ve lost Virgil, there’s been no sign of Thiago since the derby and now Trent is going to be out for a while. Keita and Matip are back, but for how long? Presumably Ox won’t be too far away now and hopefully Fabinho will available after the international break. Star man is tricky as no-one really stood out that much. Sadio was good, Robbo was Robbo, Gomez and Matip played well but I’ll go for Hendo I think. I wouldn’t argue if any of you say it should be one of the others I just mentioned, but if I had to pick one then it’s the skipper, but only just. Alisson deserves a mention too as we needed him to be alert on a couple of occasions and he was. Some of his kicking was shite though. Team: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold (Milner), Matip, Gomez, Robertson; Henderson, Wijnaldum; Jota, Firmino (Shaqiri), Salah, Mané:
    17 points
  2. In the gloomy aftermath of Villa and the Goodison derby, you would have offered me consecutive wins over Ajax, Sheffield United, Midgetland, West Ham, a 5-0 at Atalanta and a draw at City I would have ripped your arm off at the roots, never mind snapped your hand off.
    9 points
  3. Fuck that, he’d probably put his back out.
    5 points
  4. He is proving an excellent taker of penalties. And I still never feel confident he is going to convert them.
    5 points
  5. Love watching footy on my own, Mrs goes upstairs to potter around and she says the whole of the downstairs basically sounds like this.
    5 points
  6. Must mention that prick Tyler on commentary, speaking about the fuckin rat. Something along the lines of Gomez will he keeping out of the way of Sterling after last time before they joined up for England. Fuck me the delusional prick, it was the cowardly rat who attacked Joe like the fuckin coward that he is. He wouldn't have done that to anyone else in the squad. Tyler is a prick and the rat a coward.
    4 points
  7. That he looks like a budget DJ Khaled?
    4 points
  8. Saturday Oct 31: L 2 West Ham 1 Sound that. Difficult game, not at our best, dug in and willed our way to the three points. That’s what Champions do. It’s what we did for most of last season. It felt like most of the games we won during that record breaking run last year were single goal wins. I know they weren’t, were did have some comfortable ones in there too but there were loads like this one. It feels like we’re getting back into that groove now. Nice that we’re actually getting penalties again for fouls on Salah. It felt like there was a period of about 12 months where it was open season for defenders to do whatever they liked to him without any punishment. What brought that on? The media and rival manager witch hunt every time he was awarded a pen. And look, it’s happening again tonight. Even though it’s a clear foul and the West Ham player a) didn’t complain when it was given and b) apologised for the mistake on twitter afterwards, we’re still being subjected to absolute bollocks from pundits claiming it’s not a penalty. Even Souness was at it, which is disappointing as he’s normally one of the better ones. He was talking so much shit that Micah Richards stopped laughing for once in his life and was looking at him like “ok mate, whatever”. Then you had baked bean head Shearer talking absolute fucking nonsense on MOTD. It’s easy to dismiss this and say it doesn’t mean anything, but it does. It creates a narrative and eventually it can influence people’s thinking. It’s basically a Daily Mail front page blaming all the ills of the country on immigrants and refugees. Your hear something reported often enough that eventually it can influence your thinking without even realising it. It’s not a co-incidence that Salah stopped getting pens when the narrative became about him diving all the time. The same thing happened to Suarez back in the day too. I wouldn’t mind if it was the same across the board, but Kane and Sterling are literally throwing themselves to the ground without any contact on a weekly basis and fuck all is ever said about it. Mo won’t get another pen now for six months, you just watch (hopefully that reverse jinx kicks in on Sunday) . So, here’s something from today that I found interesting. For the first time in ages the twitter mole who posts the team got it wrong yesterday. He had Thiago and Williams starting. So what happened there? Are the club onto him and feeding false info? Because Nat Phillips said that he knew he was starting on Thursday but clearly the mole didn’t. This feels like a sting to me. We’ll know on Tuesday if we get early team news again. Sunday Nov 1: Normal service is resumed as Everton lose their second game in a row and they can kiss goodbye to ever being top again now. Well, they might do it again at the start of a season, but you’re never going to see a situation where they’re top after, say, ten games. They had their little run, got typically chesty about it and now they’re back to being Everton. They’ll never learn will they? All that “Spirit of the Blues” thing was setting themselves up for a massive fail. I mean come on, the lyrics are “we don’t know the meaning of losing”. You’re Everton. Losing is what you do. It’s who you are. It’s like Steve Davis running around singing “I don’t know the meaning of snooker”. All it took was four games for them to completely forget who they were. FOUR FUCKING GAMES! They’re utterly mental. You’d think after being so shit for so long, and living with constant disappointment and misery, that they’d at least have they guard up a little bit and be somewhat sceptical that it might not last. But no, they go wading in, running their mouths and writing cheques their team can’t cover. When we spoke to one of the lads from Grand Old Team ahead of the derby and asked “what is an obtainable goal” for them this season, instead of saying “well most of the traditional top six look a bit unconvincing this year so maybe we can grab a European place or possibly even sneak into the top four” he said “Don’t laugh…. to be Champions”. Honestly, they’ll never, ever learn. “Don’t laugh?” Come on, lad, some things can’t be prefaced with that. It’s like Del Boy looking into the camera and telling us “don’t laugh” before he went arse over tit in that yuppy wine bar. My mum went right off on one about them today. I don’t even remember what instigated it, we were talking about something completely unrelated and the next thing she’s telling me how horrible Ancelotti is and always has been. I’d said Everton had changed him and she said he’s always been “vile” and his Napoli team were dirty nasty scumbags. Then she said how every single Everton player was horrible. I was like “Oh I’m not sure I’d go that far”. “Tell me one who is ok then” she challenged me. “Leighton Baines wasn’t too bad and Seamus Coleman seems like a decent lad” I replied. “Noooooooo. Baines is your typical bitter Evertonian. I saw an interview with him once and they mentioned Liverpool and he got all defensive wouldn’t even say the word. As for Coleman, I felt sorry for that lad when he got injured but he’s been a right snide ever since he came back. He’s a dirty little thing him.” Then she went on about Pickford, Richarlison, Delph, Calvert-Lewin (she’s hated him from day one, even before the dive against Lovren) and Rodriguez for a bit before again challenging me “Name me one who you can honestly say seems alright? You can’t. Even with Man United there are some who are inoffensive and don’t bother me. Every team will have one or two that you can’t stand but with Everton it’s every one of them”. And you know what, I couldn’t actually name one who doesn’t annoy the fuck out of me. None of the established ones anyway. They’re all varying degrees of snide, dirty, bitter little bastards. I don’t mind Doucoure but he’s only been there five minutes. Michael Keane might be the least offensive of the regulars but I always feel he’s got a two footed lunge in a derby game in him so it’s only a matter of time until he’s on the list. I wasn’t bothered too much by Mina until I saw him acting like a complete cunt today when Wilson was getting ready to take the pen. So yeah, I can’t actually name one who’s ok. So the Everton game today was funny, as was United losing to Arsenal. The best bit about that was Keane afterwards. He said Ole is probably going to be gone soon but he took issue with criticism that he isn’t motivating the players. Keane was fuming about that and (rightly, in my view) claimed that players should be motivating themselves and that he never needed any manager to motivate him. The best was when Cahill started pontificating about how great Arteta is what a great job he’s doing with Arsenal. It was embarrassing how overboard he was going just because it’s his mate and the contempt from Keane was palpable, he kept saying “how many games have Arsenal lost this season?” and Cahill kept avoiding the question. Keane just sat there shaking his head, looking away and generally fuming. He’s great, he should be covering every game on every channel like Micah Richards does. My favourite bit was later on when they asked what Man United need and he sneered “Mikel Arteta as apparently he’s the new messiah”. Great stuff. Monday Nov 2: Wow. I’ve seen some shitty articles and headlines in my time, but this is right up there with the worst of them. Tony Cascarino, fucking hell. “Salah’s dive shamed the memory of Nobby Stiles and the game he loved”. Has there been a more Brexit headline all fucking year? It’s a disgrace on so many fucking levels. I mean the absolute fucking nerve of this fucker. Where to even start. Salah’s wasn’t even the most contentious pen of the weekend. Harry Kane and Jack Grealish to name two were much worse. Callum Wilson’s was similar to Mo’s. Yet one is shaming the game and the other three don’t get mentioned in the headline. There upstanding Englishmen and one dirty cheating foreigner. Shaming the game? Please. This game no longer has any shame and Cascarino never had any to begin with. This is a fella who had an international career based on fraud. And I don’t mean Harry Maguire type fraud where he somehow managed to convince the world he was an international class defender and not just another Lewis Dunk or James Tarkowski. No, I mean an actual fraud who lied about being eligible to play for a country that he had no right playing for. Bringing Nobby Stiles’ death into a discussion about penalties is really fucking low. Millwall cunt. Speaking of low, Ryan Giggs is arrested for allegedly smacking his girlfriend around. I’m shocked. Shocked I tell ya. It’s not like he has history for anything like this. Oh wait, yeah he does. Didn’t he get nicked back in the day for hitting that Davina bird he was seeing in a nightclub or something? He’s a real piece of work this fella. Can’t see Wales sticking with him now. His career in football is surely over now. Tuesday Nov 3: Atalanta 0 L 5. Holy shit, how great was that!! It’s not even that we won 5-0 that has me so excited right now. It’s the way we did it and the throwback to the footy of 2018 when we were just blitzing our way around Europe fucking annihilating teams. We’ve evolved a lot since then and we’re a more well rounded, mature team these days. But it’s great to see that we still have this football in us when the opportunity arises. Atalanta’s gung ho style obviously helped as we won’t be able to run in behind most teams the way we did tonight. It’s hard to run in behind a team camped on the edge of their own box, which is what we face most weeks in the league, but you know who doesn’t camp in their own box and who does leave loads of space in behind. Man City, that’s who. And we play them next. As much as Klopp loves Bobby and will want to show faith in him, he can’t possibly change this front three now, surely? Jota is playing so well currently that he’s outshining Sadio and Mo, and they’re both in great form too. The difference tonight was huge. Having three players running in behind rather than two was just too much for Atalanta to cope with. How would City deal with that? I don’t think they could, to be honest. This front three would create loads of chances against them and the key to the result on Sunday is whether we are clinical enough to take them. And again, that surely means Jota starting as he’s in lethal form right now. I’m also buzzing about how the kids played tonight. Jones and Williams both did really well. It’s mad as they were both playing in the kids CL a couple of years ago (Curtis was playing it last year too while Rhys was playing non-league) and now they’re in the senior side together. This was Jones’ best display of the season so far and he looked more like himself tonight compared to how safe he’s been playing recently. Starting games regularly will only help him as he’ll be more comfortable and won’t always be thinking he has to do something special to impress. He kept it simple tonight but still played the right passes forward when they were there. The one to set Mo clear for him goal was brilliant, even if he didn’t get the credit for it he should have. As for Williams, he’s played, what? Four games now? And I’ve barely noticed him. I can’t really think of anything specific he’s done and that’s brilliant for a teenage centre back throw in at the deep end. To be able to just slot in and not be noticed is really difficult, but he just does the job with the minimum of fuss, wins his headers, keeps it simple, and looks calm as anything. We might have a really good one there. Also, no leaked team news again so I think the mole has been squashed. Good. I don’t see the fascination with having to know the team the day before anyway. Just wait until it’s announced a n hour before. It’s not like it influences our lives in any way, is it? Wednesday Nov 4: The Mancs lose in Turkey to a PL “Legends XI” including Skrtel, Ba and Rafael. I’ve genuinely never seen anything like that first goal they conceded. Not in the first half anyway. It can happen late on when you need to throw everyone forward in desperation, but I’ve never seen it happen like that so early in a game. I honestly didn’t think it was possible for a top flight team to do that. My daughter has been playing a team for about five years now. Even when they first started, when she was seven and not one of them in the team had the first clue about footy or even had any interest in it, yet even then, when they had a corner the girls at the back would decide who - if any - of them would go forward and who would stay back. I’d see it all the time. Adrianna would usually go forward because she was basically the only kid on the team not scared of heading the ball (even five years later not much has changed!). But sometimes, if one of the others had gone forward I’d see Adrianna and the other defender look around and then go and mark the forward on halfway. Even seven year old girls knew that you can’t just send everyone forward and leave the opposing striker all along on the halfway line. Yet that’s what United did. It’s easy to rip into their crap defence and blame Maguire, but this isn’t on the centre backs as those lads are entitled to go forward and assume that there’ll be a couple of team-mates covering. Whoever normally stays back (Wan Bissaka for one I assume as he’s next to no use in the opposition half) fucked up massively and gave us one of the funniest moments of the season. Could have done with them not losing this though as the heat is really being cranked up on Ole now. He might not be at the wheel for much longer so here’s hoping they can snot the Blues this weekend. On the transfer rumour front today, but of a mad one as for some reason people are talking about Haaland coming here. Firstly, why would he leave Dortmund so soon after joining when things are going so well for him there? Secondly, he’s gonna want some kind of serious wedge. Thirdly, we’ve got Jota now, so… Seriously though, I’d love to sign Haaland but just don’t see where he fits in, especially with Mbappe coming next summer. Thursday Nov 5: Fuck all happening today so I’ve got nothing to say. Ok, I tell you what. Here’s something that happened today and I reckon it’s the same for everyone on the planet other than Billy Joel and his most dedicated fans. So one of his songs came on the radio today and I was like “yeeerrrs, this is boss this one”. So I’m singing along and it basically went like this… baba didi bababa duwadidi oompapa doobabadidi babababa Marylyn Monroe… umpapapa baobab duwawaa ooolalah something something bababa England’s got a new queen… we didn’t start the fire, it was always burnin since the world’s been turning… And on it goes, lots of mumbling and humming interspersed with “children of thelidimide”, “Belgians in the Congo”, “British politician sex” and a few choruses. Other than that, no-one has a fucking clue about any of the other lyrics but we still sing anyway as it’s catchy as fuck. Tell me I’m wrong? So yeah, slow news day! Actually I’ll ring my mum and ask her about that Kane / Lallana penalty last week. Should be interesting because she hates Kane even more than she hates poor Adam…. Ok, so she sided with Lallana as I expected. Used the word ‘vile’ to describe Kane, which is standard. One of the main reasons she hated Ads (I’ve taken to calling him ‘Ads’ because it makes her skin crawl) was because he was always injured but today she said “We’ve got a few other invalids for me to pick on now. He’s old news”. I know she’s got beef with "Kiter" so he’ll be one of those ‘invalids’ she’s on about, and Matip will defo be another. I daren’t ask if she’s already got Thiago on the shitlist though as that’s a bit arlarse if so. He’s had Covid and he’s been crippled by that twat Richarlison, so it’s unfair to lump him in with the stiffs just yet. Friday Nov 6: Ok, so this is concerning. Still no Thiago. Anyone else getting the feeling we’ve been lied to and they knew all along he was going to be out for weeks but they wanted to keep it quiet? Could be that they didn’t want to add to the bad news after Virgil, or maybe they’re trying to keep the opposition guessing. There’s no way he’s been 'day to day' though like they’ve been telling us. He hasn’t trained yet and it’s been what, four weeks since the derby? They defo knew it was more serious than they were ever going to let on to us. All Klopp is saying now is that he didn't need an operation and they just had to see how long it took to settle. He’s not joining up with Spain so if he is ready for our next game (which I’m betting he won’t be) that would have been a six week lay off. I hope that’s all it is. Fucking Everton, the dirty shower of bastards. It’s a big game between two of the ‘big six’ this weekend so you know what that means? Combined XI’s all over the fucking internet. They’re everywhere, and they’re usually complete abominations. In terms of this weekend, it’s easy. It’s ten Liverpool players plus De Bruyne, as no-one else from City is getting in. Neutrals can make an argument for Sterling and that's ok, I’m not knocking him as his record speaks for itself, but why would you take him over Mané or Salah? Jota is the first name on the team sheet by the way. I just hope he’s on Klopp’s this Sunday. Finally, Trent is tipped to become ‘the best right back ever’ by a true legend of the game. Sounds great right? Yeah, only that legend of the game is Cafu and he said pretty the same thing about Flanno back in the day, so… *shrugs* He might be right this time though. and that was the week that was….
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  9. We can take our foot off the gas in the CL after the next round of matches provided we don’t get beat. We are 5 points ahead of City (2 minimum when taking into account their game in hand). We will get 85 points this season which might be enough. If we get 90 points that will be enough. What the manager has achieved since the Derby has been outstanding. We’ve had to find a totally different way of defending and therefore of playing. We frustrated one of the best teams in the league and soaked up pressure in a way we haven’t for years. We are very, very well placed.
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  10. Just happy that we won the title while still at Melwood. Kind of like an elderly person, once they know something that's long been on their mind has been resolved, and they can now let go and rest in peace. RIP Melwood. Your name will be forever in our hearts and minds.
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  11. What did the Evertonian say in the wool shop? We want merino lad.
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  12. It's really terrifying how close America came to the brink with a second Trump tenure. I don't think a lot of people who don't follow politics looked beyond his Tweeting and crass stupidity to fully understand the scale of the havoc he was wreaking on its institutions. He was essentially hollowing out its civil service and replacing everyone based on their own personal loyalty to him, rather than their abilities or standing in their professions. You'd have essentially had a State department incapable of doing its job but would be stacked to the rafters with bell hops from his golf resorts. People don't often get how important America is to things like Britain's national security, so it's essential that things like its intelligence agencies are functioning properly. There's also the hugely destructive idea that 'truth doesn't matter', science and facts don't matter, all that matters is what I tell you and wishful thinking. I mean as rabbit holes go, that takes you all the way to the end of humanity, pure and simple. No institution, organisation or social construct, let alone a country, can survive when people will willingly suspend belief in their eyes and ears, that's Poundshop 1984 territory. He's undoubtedly the most malignant political force to have governed a Western nation in any of our lifetimes, possibly far longer. This was a Stalingrad moment, and thankfully we're all now relaxing amid the ruins of the Tractor factory eating borscht while Yevgeny plays the Tetris theme on the accordion, while bloodied members of the Wehrmacht are paraded past to catch a train to the Stalag for a date with some nettle soup and NKVD electrodes.
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  13. Should have emailed back saying “Sorry, too late. Vaccinations were at 9am this morning. Did you not get the text?”
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  14. It has to be Dylan he’s the most important figure in pop cultural history of the 20th Century . I like Bowie but he’s not even in the same league especially when you consider songs of the power of Blowin in the Wind , The Times they are A-Changin,, Like a Rolling Stone Hurricane etc etc etc
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  15. The musical equivalent of the Tory governance thus far...
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  16. Covid-19 vaccine candidate is 90% effective, says manufacturer Interim analysis of vaccine by Pfizer/BioNTech far exceeds expectations of most experts Sarah Boseley Health editor Published:11:47 Mon 9 November 2020 Follow Sarah Boseley A vaccine against Covid-19 is in sight, with the announcement of the first interim results in large-scale trials showing the Pfizer/BioNTech candidate is 90% effective, according to the manufacturers, whose analysis shows a much better performance than most experts had hoped for. The high percentage of those protected makes the findings compelling. Regulators have said they would approve a vaccine that is just 50% effective – protecting half those who get it. The company says there are no serious side-effects. “Today is a great day for science and humanity. The first set of results from our Phase 3 Covid-19 vaccine trial provides the initial evidence of our vaccine’s ability to prevent Covid-19,” said Dr Albert Bourla, Pfizer chairman and CEO. “We are reaching this critical milestone in our vaccine development program at a time when the world needs it most with infection rates setting new records, hospitals nearing over-capacity and economies struggling to reopen.” The trial will continue until there have been 164 confirmed cases so there is potential for the efficacy rate to change, but a finding that 90% of infections were prevented will excite politicians and public health leaders alike and brings into view a potential end to the pandemic. The phase 3 trials have involved more than 43,000 people. People from black and ethnic minority backgrounds appear to have been as well protected as everyone else, the company says. Gathering the required safety data will take until the third week of November, says the company. The dossier will then be submitted to the regulators for approval. Speedy licensing could mean the first doses in healthcare workers by the end of the year.
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  17. All I remember was our game was cancelled because the daft useless bint managed to get herself killed.
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  18. I was at this game last year - happy days! The noise when Milner scored that last minute pen was brilliant.
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  19. It’s a heat resistant thingio. For putting pans and trays on when they’re hot. And for ramming up my arse, obviously.
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  20. Absolute top "Adrianna vs. Maguire" analysis there, Dave.
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  21. Chamberlain is way off being fit, nowhere near Trent’s ability and not to put too fine a point on it, average at best.
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  22. Aretha Franklin Kate Bush Madonna Beyoncé Stevie Nicks Diana Ross Linda Ronstadt
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  23. Fucking Hell, stick on MTV for 20 minutes, every second song/video is a Michael Jackson rip off. I'm not saying any of it is good or bad but the evidence is all there. His cultural impact is absolutely massive.
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  24. If I had to start a list of what Michael Jackson wasn't it would go: Politically relevant. Culturally important.
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  25. I reckon someone is setting Facebook groups up for stuff like this to take the piss out of gullible parents, mentioning Unesco is too perfect. "Did you know you're entitled to a motorbike and sidecar if your child has ADD, this was enshrined in law by King Arthur."
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  27. I've just started Fahrenheit 11/9 and fucking hell. Fucking fucking hell. I knew trump was bad but fucking hell! One creepy racist cunt and that water thing in Flint, Michigan what in the fuck?!
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  28. Possibly the wrongest post ever. This is absolutely the correct final. It's a close call between these two and everyone else - even some great artists - are a good distance behind them. Fucked if I know which way to vote, like.
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  29. That is a good vitamin, erm mineral.
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  30. The whole cosmic Scouser thing. He drawls instead of talks. Swears too much - dunno if he thinks it makes him look cool or something. He's always on the Anfield Wrap and you'd think he was Johnny Cash reincarnated the way they go on. I hate the whole "we're Scouse not English" schtick and he just reminds of that. I used to hate going to away games (not that I do anymore) there'd always be loud mouths exaggerating their accents - proper Harry Enfield Scousers stuff. Seemed to be getting worse as the years went on. It's why I could never warm to Shack. Seen them live a couple of times and just thought it was all a bit professional Scouse. Yeah mate keep swearing it makes you look dead hard even though you're playing a local daytime festival with families here. Don't like his songs either. Dunno maybe he's great and I'm missing out.
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  31. Strange there's no mention of any front line workers except care homes. Personally I'd be all in on us vaccinating people in contact with lots of people, NHS, teachers, shop workers, police, hospitality etc. I'd put that before anyone under 65.
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  32. Honestly mate so did I, thought he died a couple of years ago, could have sworn it!!
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  33. The sad thing is he died not long after we moved in, within a few months so I didn’t really get to know him. She obviously mentioned what he did afterwards as she knew we were Liverpool supporters. I didn’t know his relationship with the club until afterwards when I read Last of The Boot Room Boys. I knew his wife really well though and she stayed there until she passed away too. She was always very kind to us as kids and was a wonderful lady.
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  36. Happy with the point. Our best chance was (like we have in the past at Anfield) blitzing them in quick succession. We looked good for 2 or 3 in the first 20 minutes... but it wasn't to be. For most of the second half, both sides looked fucked... conditions looked oppressive, but with a long winter yet to come, this is going to be a season of real attrition, I think. So a very good point.
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  37. Champ is the glue that binds us all together. Forum royalty.
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  38. I’ve not read any of the other posts but I’m satisfied with today. The first half was incredible quality. Peak El Classico stuff. Two great sides, both teams playing really well. Absolutely superb stuff from both side. 2nd half was like a game of chess, and I have to admit, I enjoyed it almost as much. I love these proper tactical battles. Both sides continued to play well and eventually just cancelled each other out. I’d have taken a point before the game and I’m not going to complain about it now. They were missing Aguero and we were missing the best centre back in the world, one of the best defensive midfielders, one of the best central midfielders and one of the best right backs only lasted 60 mins... Slightly frustrating not to take advantage of our early dominance but when you take the above into consideration, plus they missed a penalty, I’m not gonna complain.
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  39. Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye" Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dacron Dien Bien Phu falls, "Rock Around the Clock" Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Krushchev Princess Grace, "Peyton Place", trouble in the Suez We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, "Bridge on the River Kwai" Lebanon, Charlse de Gaulle, California baseball Starkweather, homicide, children of thalidomide Buddy Holly, "Ben Hur", space monkey, Mafia Hula hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy Chubby Checker, "Psycho", Belgians in the Congo We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it Hemingway, Eichmann, "Stranger in a Strange Land" Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion "Lawrence of Arabia", British Beatlemania Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British politician sex JFK, blown away, what else do I have to say We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock Begin, Reagan, Palestine, terror on the airline Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan "Wheel of Fortune", Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide Foreign debts, homeless vets, AIDS, crack, Bernie Goetz Hypodermics on the shores, China's under martial law Rock and roller cola wars, I can't take it anymore We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire But when we are gone Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it
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  40. Jurgen Klopp cherishes the training ground. It is the basis, he thinks, for everything that happens at whichever club he manages; the place where players come to understand what he expects physically, tactically and emotionally. “If a player does not train well, he doesn’t last long in a Klopp team,” a Melwood source tells The Athletic. “In fact, he’s got no chance…” Behind the hugs and the megawatt smile, Klopp places huge demands on his players. The rewards are great but so are the sacrifices. If they are granted the luxury of a day off in the week then there is often a double session waiting for them soon after. “We train the way we play,” is Klopp’s mantra. Assistant boss Pep Lijnders plans each session and goes over it with Klopp in the manager’s office each morning. When out on the grass, Klopp is not shy to intervene when something catches his eye or he senses that standards are not sky-high. “I’ve worked under a lot of managers and coaches in my career and his training sessions are more intense than under anyone else I’ve known,” says vice-captain James Milner. “There’s never a single session where a player can switch off and just go through the session as if they’re on autopilot. He’s a great manager. The best I’ve played under? Yes, I’d say so.” Adam Lallana, who spent five years under Klopp before leaving for Brighton at the end of last season, confirms: “It’s very intense. When you hear people say they dedicate their lives to the football club, that literally is the case. There’s a lot of sacrifice to playing for that football club but it’s worth every moment.” In his book Ask A Footballer, Milner talks about the countless hours of drills that go into perfecting Liverpool’s pressing game. “Training is really hard and it’s complicated,” he says. “When we press as a team and we do it so effectively, we’re not running around like a load of headless chickens. It’s the result of a very specific game plan that we’ve been working on for years.” Klopp is a big believer in scheduling training sessions around the upcoming kick-off time. Previously, players had been used to training in the morning regardless and then having the afternoon to themselves. “Where before you could switch off more knowing that you had everything done by lunchtime, it’s more relentless under Jurgen,” one of his former players tells The Athletic. “You might not be training until 5pm but you’re sat at home in the morning thinking about what’s ahead. You probably get in for lunchtime to do some work in the gym, have some lunch and maybe video analysis before training. We definitely spent a lot more time at Melwood than before.” Wijnaldum says Klopp immediately made him feel special (Photo: Andrew Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images) Team meetings always take place before the sessions. The day before a game it is usually crystal clear what the starting XI will be as Klopp plays 11 v 11. The shadow line-up is set up tactically in the same way as Klopp and his staff expect their upcoming opponents to play. “It’s broken down into how the opponents attack, how they defend, how they react in transition and so on,” adds Milner. “The manager will go into details about those weaknesses and how we’re going to exploit them. And then their strengths and how we’re going to guard against them. If they’ve got a weakness at left-back or if they’re vulnerable to a certain kind of cross, then we work on that.” Players will also be emailed specific clips to watch before each game to reinforce the points Klopp was making. “Jurgen never overburdens you with information,” says Trent Alexander-Arnold. “It’s not so much that he tells you exactly what to do on the ball and says you need to pass to here and here. It’s more about giving you the ideas and helping you see the opportunities to play it in behind when Mo (Salah) runs in behind. Or when Bobby (Firmino) comes to feet, finding that pass instead, maybe. “He’s done so much for me personally. His advice has always been top-notch for me. When you need a bollocking, he’ll give you one. He’s not scared of doing it. But most of the time it’s arm around the shoulder, wanting to help you improve.” Georginio Wijnaldum agrees. “The mind is free, and that is the most important thing,” he says. “The manager does not overload the players with information. Every game is different because opponents have different qualities and different threats, but the consistent element to our approach is we do not man-mark. It would be difficult to counter-press if we man-marked. This means we mark spaces. “There’s a sharp focus on set plays the day before a game both in terms of attacking and defending. There’s also light relief with the traditional older players versus younger players match, with the results totted up over the course of the season.” If Liverpool are playing in the evening, then Klopp holds a light session on the morning of the match to run through the game plan. When Liverpool are playing away, that often means booking a lower-league ground to use. Klopp has changed his approach over time. He is the boss and always makes the final call but he welcomes feedback from the senior players’ committee, led by captain Jordan Henderson and vice-captain Milner on things such as travel plans. Days off have become more frequent in recent seasons when the schedule allows and he has also permitted recovery days to take place away from the training ground at times, with physios sent to players’ homes. One gesture meant a great deal to the squad after Liverpool won the Club World Cup in Qatar last year. Usually, they would have stayed in a hotel on Christmas Day before facing Leicester City at the King Power Stadium on Boxing Day. But with the players having already spent a week away, Klopp decided they could sleep in their own homes and assemble on Boxing Day morning to fly down to Leicester. He also brought forward training on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day so they could spend more quality time with their families. It underlined his trust in them and he was rewarded with arguably Liverpool’s finest display of the season as they thrashed Brendan Rodgers’ side 4-0. What hasn’t changed during Klopp’s reign is how brutal pre-season is. “Even the manager’s demeanour changes. He puts on his game face,” writes Andy Robertson in his book Now You’re Gonna Believe Us, referring to the summer training camps in Evian, France. Klopp describes those camps as “my time”, without the distractions that come with the commercial commitments of the overseas tours. It is about creating a base for the challenges ahead. Even when there is a friendly in the evening, he will put players through an energy-sapping session earlier the same day. Robertson says: “I think sometimes the manager tests us in at least one game pre-season where he basically says: ‘If you can play through this, you can play through anything.’ “You play with an empty tank, you play with the tired legs, you play with a tired mind and then during the season over the Christmas period where we have maybe six games in 14 days or whatever, that’s not a massive problem because it’s not as bad as what we did during the summer.” Klopp’s attention to detail is such that he is always looking for an edge over his opponents. The players did not know what to expect when the manager informed them that they had a session in the Hotel Royal pool with German surfer Sebastian Steudtner in Evian in the summer of 2019. Klopp shares a joke with Robertson and Henderson and has revolutionised Liverpool’s training (Photo: Andrew Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images) Steudtner explained that he was there to help with breathing techniques and mental durability and how putting yourself into extreme situations triggers new coping mechanisms. Taking on board his methods, the players all improved how long they could stay underwater — some managed nearly three minutes. “Never mind marginal gains, this was significant pain,” wrote Robertson. “He made us suffer. He made us crave oxygen like we’d never craved it before. But by taking us to the brink he also underlined how much we had to give and how far we could go. The gaffer wanted us to be able to find a happy place under stress. We all got it and bought into it.” The players felt that experiences such as those helped them dig deep during the 2019-20 title-winning season when late goals and gutsy fightbacks sealed cherished victories. Whether it is the appointment of nutritionist Mona Nemmer,throw-in coach Thomas Gronnemark or sports psychologist Lee Richardson, Klopp is an innovator, a coach who is unafraid of surrounding himself with staff who know more than him. “This shows you his humility,” Wijnaldum says. “At Liverpool, it never feels like we are lacking something.” Klopp once asked his Borussia Dortmund players to put their name to “a promise” containing seven rules. They agreed to “unconditional dedication”, “passionate devotion”, “a determination (to win), independent of the scoreline” and a readiness “to support everybody”, “accept help”, “put (their) quality wholly at the service of the team” and “take on individual responsibility”. There was to be no distinction between work and play, pain and pleasure: self-sacrificial toiling could be a sensual experience. Klopp, feverishly saluting won tackles and clearances on the sidelines, was the physical manifestation of his teachings. “He said things like, ‘I’m looking forward to this game with every fibre in my body’ and it was so believable that one second later, you felt the same,” recalls the Dortmund midfielder Sven Bender. “We learned to be completely in the moment, to think only from game to game.” The idea that big targets had to be clearly expressed to be achieved was dismissed as counter-productive. “Whoever says that has no idea,” the coach explained. Klopp set his men immediate, achievable goals. They had to win the next game. “A slalom skier would never throw his hands up in the air in celebration after clearing the first gate, would he?” he asked. Table tennis tournaments, karaoke, go-karting and paintballing have all been used to foster the kind of unity and spirit that Klopp regards as pivotal to achieving glory. He demands unwavering commitment but in return, he guarantees honesty, loyalty and openness. He never passes the buck. “The way I understand it, I’m responsible for the defeats, the boys are responsible for the wins,” Klopp says. Bender loved working with Klopp at Dortmund (Photo: sampics/Corbis via Getty Images) Whereas some managers try to put distance between them and their players, Klopp’s door is always open. He believes it’s impossible to get the best out of someone unless you know all about what’s going in their life. Wijnaldum adds: “A friend, but not a best friend; that is the easiest way to describe him. He really cares about the welfare of a player and wants to know you away from football. His memory is very long as well. One of my first goals as a professional footballer came for Feyenoord against Borussia Dortmund during a friendly match in Rotterdam 10 years ago. “Jurgen told me it was his first season as a trainer at Dortmund. This was the thing we spoke about when I came to sign for Liverpool. He remembered me from that day and had followed my career ever since. He could describe the goal — who passed to me — every detail. It showed me that this guy is really serious. “When I met with Jurgen, we had a good conversation, not just about my football but my life away from football as well. It was clear he wanted to sign the person as well as the football player. This was important for me because these conversations do not always happen between manager and player. Jurgen is a manager that wants to have a connection with the players.” Ralph Gunesch played for Klopp at Mainz and he is now a youth team assistant manager at Ingolstadt. He saw Klopp as being totally different from the traditional German coach. “Some of the older ones acted like warrior generals sitting on a chariot, with the team pulling them along. With Klopp, it’s a different dynamic,” Gunesch tells The Athletic. “He doesn’t put himself above anyone but he leads from the front. And those who don’t pull their weight or want to go in a different direction will have a huge problem. He used to say: ‘It’s not necessary to have the perfect game plan but we all need to have the same game plan.’” Liverpool’s players respect Klopp. They fear his temper but they know he is otherwise approachable. Everything is left on the pitch. If he is unhappy about something, he does not carry his mood throughout the rest of the working day. Players know that once a training session or a game is over, life goes on. Around the time Dejan Lovren was dealing with some personal matters in 2016, he had trained badly — so badly that Klopp could tell something was up. The Croatian defender remained in Klopp’s office at Melwood for hours after the rest of the players had gone home and from that point on, he always knew Klopp had his back. Klopp is hands-on. During the close season and international breaks, he remains in close contact with his players. He wants to know everything that is happening. “I tend to text him to say ‘session done’. He normally replies with a thumbs-up emoji,” says Milner. “One time he messaged me back with a picture of him in a hot tub. He’s extremely driven and serious about his work. You know where you stand with him. If you’ve got an opinion or a concern about something, you can speak to him and he’ll listen.” With Klopp, there is always a sense of perspective. Family always comes first. When Robertson’s partner Rachel was rushed to hospital with chest pains before last season’s Premier League clash away to Tottenham Hotspur, Klopp was more concerned about her well-being than who would play left-back in the capital. He agreed with the Scotland skipper that he would be withdrawn from the squad if her condition worsened and Klopp made it clear that the club would have a private plane on standby ready to fly him back north immediately. Thankfully, her condition improved, Robertson played and Liverpool won. After Liverpool triumphed away to Norwich City in February, they were preparing to fly home when the pilot warned that due to high winds it was likely to be an unpleasant, bumpy journey. There was a significant degree of concern. Klopp stood up to make it clear that he would never force anyone to fly and that nobody would be judged if they decided to get off. Several players and staff opted for the five-hour drive instead. Similarly, the players appreciated how he stuck to his guns amid criticism after Liverpool’s FA Cup replay with Shrewsbury Town was scheduled within the Premier League winter break. Klopp refused to backtrack after promising his star names the week off. Many had already made holiday plans. Klopp can also be ruthless when he needs to be. Anyone who does not stick to the rules is shown the door. Just ask Mamadou Sakho, who did not play for Liverpool again after being sent home from the pre-season tour of America in disgrace in 2016. Sakho was late for the team flight to California, late for a team meal and missed a treatment session. It was Klopp’s first pre-season at Liverpool and he felt he could not allow such indiscipline to go unpunished. A marker had been put down. “We have rules and we have to respect them. If somebody doesn’t respect it or somebody gives me the feeling he is not respecting it then I have to react,” Klopp said. Over the course of his Anfield reign, Klopp has invited players’ families along on various European away trips and mid-season training camps. “He always wanted to make sure that the families were happy at Liverpool,” says former Liverpool left-back Jose Enrique. “If they’re happy, then the players can focus more on football. If things aren’t right at home, you can see it out on the pitch.” Klopp’s leadership skills were also there for all to see when football was suspended due to the pandemic in March with Liverpool on the cusp of ending their 30-year wait for the title. Players and staff had been called to a 1pm meeting in the Melwood canteen. “You guys have earned this and you will get your chance,” Klopp told them. “Don’t worry about football for now. You are the best team in England and the most worthy champions there has ever been.” Klopp vowed that the club would provide an extensive support network during the shutdown and a WhatsApp group would be set up for them to share any concerns or issues. He told them to switch off from football and enjoy the time with their families. It is telling how even those who have been cast aside rarely have a bad word to say about Klopp. Loris Karius may have been replaced by Alisson after his Champions League final nightmare against Real Madrid but he always appreciated how Klopp defended him in the aftermath of Kyiv. Klopp was determined that the details of the concussion inflicted on Karius by Sergio Ramos’ elbow would be made public: “We don’t use it as an excuse, we use it as an explanation.” After being sent on loan to Union Berlin this summer, Karius was asked about his relationship with Klopp. He said: “It was always fair and honest. He always tells you what the situation is like.” Klopp was reduced to tears as he went around hugging his players in turn on the night that Liverpool celebrated winning the title following Chelsea’s win over nearest rivals Manchester City. Milner says Klopp he is the best manager he has played for (Photo: John Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images) The 53-year-old had insisted that they all met up at Formby Hall to watch the game after Liverpool’s victory over Crystal Palace had put them on the brink of history. He had told them: “I’ve been in this game long enough to know that tonight is going to be compulsory because if it does happen, it’s not the same if we all FaceTime each other. We have to be together. We meet at 6pm and let’s hope it goes well into the night. If it doesn’t, we go home and we’ve had a nice barbecue.” Klopp has a remarkable knack of being able to make those on the fringes of the squad feel as if they are part of something special. In the dressing room at Anfield after Liverpool beat Chelsea on the night they lifted the Premier League trophy in July, an emotional Klopp turned to salute his fourth-choice goalkeeper. “Andy Lonergan, champion of England, champion of Europe, champion of the world. What a guy!” he beamed. The players responded by chanting the name of someone who had not made a single appearance all season. Klopp ensured that every member of the squad got a medal, regardless of whether they met the usual criteria. Lallana says: “Over the last couple of years in my spell at Liverpool, I didn’t play so much. Of course, at times you’re frustrated, but he has the ability to just like that, have you back fighting for not just the team, but for him.” Simon Mignolet, who left in 2019 to sign for Club Brugge, adds: “Everyone lived that moment when we won the Champions League final in Madrid. With the bond in the squad, we all felt part of it — even those, like me, who didn’t play much. I still keep in touch. Jurgen messaged me to say congratulations after we qualified for the group stages of the Champions League.” Under Klopp, there is a pecking order in the dressing room. Everyone is treated the same. “Jurgen is a true leader. He’s inspirational and motivational,” says Lijnders. “There is a saying that people don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care. And I think everyone who works with Jurgen has the feeling he really cares about you and your development. “When Jurgen speaks to the players, he speaks from the heart and it goes directly into the hearts of the players. He has this remarkable capacity to touch people with the words he selects. That’s not easy, especially with this level of players. “You are dealing with a lot of egos in football but in our club, it looks like there are no egos. Jurgen has created an environment which everyone has bought into. He solves problems before they arise. He has this capacity of making sure that certain things won’t happen because he speaks about them. The level of respect the players have for him is huge. “The character of the coach becomes the character of the team. You can see it throughout the club. That’s the power of Jurgen’s personality.” Klopp’s modest playing career with Mainz meant he was used to dealing with the emotions that accompany defeat. When he was younger, he had let disappointments get to him, but then he found that too much dwelling had the potential to impact on future performances. While his understanding of the game gradually allowed him to pinpoint where things had gone wrong, his protestant faith helped him to become more pragmatic in his assessments. He learned to accept setbacks as fact of life, to appreciate why they have happened, and then move on. Gunesch, one of his former players at Mainz, feels fortunate to have worked with three “excellent” coaches in his own career. Besides Klopp, there was Holger Stanislawski and Ralph Hasenhuttland each he describes as “incredibly empathetic”. There is one line he always remembers from Klopp, who told him: “Don’t let a defeat punish you twice. Don’t dwell on it, don’t take that negative feeling with you into the next game.” Within the framework of one match, Klopp’s instruction was clear. “If you’ve been shit in a certain situation, don’t let that drag you down. Otherwise, you’ll be shit the next time as well. Stay positive.” Klopp does not punish bad moments but he expects his players to follow his ideas — otherwise, they are out. “I remember one player, Markus Feulner, getting substituted early in a friendly game because he didn’t behave in transition as Klopp wanted,” Gunesch says. “He is very in tune with his players. He wants to understand their thoughts and what makes them tick. He’s incredibly open and approachable. I remember my father being impressed with him being so polite and easy-going when he met him after a game once. “These things have an effect on you as a player. You don’t have to pay attention to players’ needs to that extent as a coach but those who do and show that they really care about you will get the extra mile out of players. Players will try that little bit harder for you if they feel appreciated and valued as human beings.” Wijnaldum became Klopp’s first major midfield signing and has been integral to the development of the team. He says Klopp’s “greatest strength” is to read a situation and react in the “best way”. “When I made the mistake against Bournemouth (passing the ball backwards, allowing Joshua King to score in 2017) in the locker room at half-time, he said, ‘Hey, it’s over. We cannot change this. Let’s just focus on the things we can do to change the game for the better’. He will only be mad if you do not use your quality or you do not try 100 per cent. When this happens, he will say things to you. Otherwise, he is always trying to help. As a player, he makes you feel as though he has your back.” Klopp’s win percentage as a manager has jumped each time he has taken on a new managerial role. At Mainz, he won 40.6 per cent of his games in charge, losing 83 times across 270 matches. At Dortmund, his win percentage increased to 56 per cent, with just 70 defeats in 316 matches. His Liverpool career to date has included 279 matches, 170 wins, 63 draws and 46 defeats. This amounts to his highest win percentage of 60.9. Klopp’s average win percentage (52.7) across his entire managerial career is much lower than any of his contemporaries, with Pep Guardiola, Jose Mourinho, Carlo Ancelotti, Zinedine Zidane and Antonio Conte boasting better records. Yet Klopp’s path has been different in the sense that he has managed only three clubs and sticks around longer. His arrival point in each job has been at a moment of either crisis or gross underachievement and this means it has taken more time and patience to get things right, with some of his earliest results indifferent. At his Liverpool unveiling, Klopp famously talked openly about the club “carrying a rucksack on its shoulders”, such was the weight of history. He knew one of his greatest challenges was managing the mood not only of the team and the club, but also the city. This meant his ability to treat disappointment as equally as any success was going to be important, especially in the early years. Klopp anticipated there would be setbacks along the way and it would be at these points that his message and direction to the players had to be at its clearest. There were also occasions when he trusted the intelligence of his players to realise how far they had come, that there was very little he could say to make things better. The Champions League final defeat in Kyiv to Real Madrid was one such occasion, after which he kept his immediate post-match debrief short. He reminded the squad that he was proud of them, that everything that could have gone wrong went wrong that night and in such circumstances, it was going to be almost impossible for Liverpool to win. He was deflated but the players believed him when he told them that this would not be their last final together — that the hurt from Kyiv would push them further next time. When the team arrived back at Melwood at 6am, he reminded the players over drinks: “This is the start, not the end of something. It’s only another step. Life is like this. We only can exist if everything works perfectly, then we cannot survive in that world out there. We have to accept sometimes that there is someone better, there is someone else with a little bit more luck. I accepted it long ago. I know I will be there again. I will try to go to the next final again and then we will turn it. That’s how I see it.” On the day of the final in Kyiv, he had helped diffuse the anxiety in the room before facing Cristiano Ronaldo’s side. “There were a lot of nerves but he started his meeting by showing us that he was wearing some CR7 boxer shorts,” recalls Milner. “He had even tucked his shirt into them. We all cracked up and the laughter got rid of all the tension that was threatening to build up. With our manager, what you see is what you get.” Twelve months later, Liverpool delivered a brutal performance in Madrid against Tottenham. Klopp had told them the team that makes the fewest mistakes and reacts in the most positive way to injustices whenever they happened would prevail and he was proven right. The pressure of playing for Liverpool, he recognised, was even greater than Borussia Dortmund. Liverpool’s history was deeper and the length of time between the last title and his point of arrival was longer. There had been just six years at Dortmund and a quarter of a century at Liverpool, where the build-up of frustration was reaching fatalistic levels. It was important for his players not to read too much into things when results went against them and he would try and guide the squad through such moments. Yet he also knew it was important for the players to think they were capable of dealing with their own anxieties. Privately, he has told friends that he believes a turning point was at Manchester City where Liverpool won in the Champions League quarter-final in 2018 despite a first-half bombardment where City’s domination made it feel possible that they might overturn a 3-0 first-leg deficit. If Liverpool lost from this position of promise, then the team’s sense of new strength following the arrival of Virgil van Dijk would be questioned, and with good reason. Normally, Klopp leads the half-time discussion by rushing into the dressing room from his position in the technical area before telling the club’s match analysts what video he wants to use as he waits for the players. This time, he realised a heated inquest was happening as they came through the door and this one was being led by Lovren. He sat and listened, allowed Lovren to say his piece and this led to a disagreement of opinion between the defence and the midfield. The midfielders said the defence was dropping too deep as the defence argued the midfielders were not pressing high enough, leaving the back line with no other option. The confrontation allowed Klopp to point out that either one or two departments in the team were not doing what he had asked them to do and that the whole team needed to remember what they had done to City twice already that season. Above all, he told his team, they should not think about containing City but getting the goals that would secure their passage to the last four. “He was only thinking about winning the game,” a dressing room source tells The Athletic. “If we went out that night, it would have been a big psychological blow. But by letting the players speak their minds and getting everything out in the open, it showed he trusted them to put it right themselves. And they did.” He had dealt with a surprise 3-0 defeat at Watford in 2015 by insisting the Christmas Party went ahead that night, with none of the players allowed to leave until 1am, even though they were expecting the event to be cancelled. “Whatever we do together, we do as well as we can, and tonight that means we party,” read a text sent out to the whole squad and staff. Six months later, there was the misery of Basle where Liverpool were comprehensively beaten by Sevilla in the Europa League final. This prompted him to give a rousing speech back at the team hotel, something he found hard because his own morale was low. He finished the speech by with a rendition of “We are Liverpool”. (Photo: Paul Ellis/PA Images via Getty Images) The most recent bump in the road was at Aston Villa where he said little straight after the game and decided to formulate his words via a text message, sent to the entire squad as they jetted off on international duty. It was the worst result of his Liverpool reign and so much had gone wrong, he decided he needed time to work out exactly how his team could have been so incomprehensibly bad. His players had done so much for him and had rarely strayed from his direction over the years, he decided it would have been unfair to batter them for this — especially not in person. He remembered what he had told the Mainz players including Gunesch all those years earlier. “Don’t let this punish you more than once.” Klopp cuts an animated figure on the touchline, whether it’s barking orders, throwing fist pumps at the sight of a possession-winning tackle or castigating the officials. However, when he gets into the dressing room at half-time, it’s a different story. “He never comes in shouting and bawling,” says Robertson. “It’s always very tactical and if we’re not doing well he shows us two or three clips from the first half and talks about how he wants us to approach the second half.” “It tends to be calm when we first reach the dressing room. He spends the first few minutes of half-time in deep discussion with his coaching staff,” adds Milner. “A lot of what he says to us will be about videos that the analysts have prepared. It might be to tell the defence, ‘You’re not high enough, move up to here’. He’s very clear in the way he communicates with us.” Only rarely does Klopp lose his temper with his players during the break. He was unhappy when they were trailing at Aston Villa 12 months ago and asked whether the team were afraid of getting their white kit dirty. Two late goals transformed a potentially damaging defeat into one of the most celebrated wins of the season. Post-game, Klopp usually only speaks to the players briefly. He saves his in-depth assessment for the following day when emotions are not running so high and he’s had the chance to watch the full game back. Before the game, it is different again. This is where he sees an opportunity to tune into the minds of the players by bringing focus. His use of language is important and he tries to find memorable ways of saying things so that players do not forget what he wants. “His punchlines are perfect,” says Hans Joachim Watzke, the chief executive at Dortmund. “Jurgen is never monotonous or predictable. That keeps everybody’s concentration.” “With every game, Klopp’s team talks got clearer, louder and more precise,” says Bender. “He explained that we were in charge now; it was all down to us. We hardly needed any motivation but his speeches were the icing on the cake. We went out and ran even more.” Before Liverpool’s 4-0 comeback victory over Barcelona in the Champions League semi-final second leg in 2019, Klopp knew he had to say something special. “The world outside is saying it is not possible,” he told them. “And let’s be honest, it’s probably impossible. But because it’s you? Because it’s you, we have a chance.” “Before the game, he did an amazing speech,” recalls Lovren. “It was brilliant, and he lifted us so high. He said, ‘Boys, believe. One or two goals, even if we don’t score in the first 15, 20 minutes, believe in the 65th, 66th, 67th minute that we can score, and then with Anfield behind us, trust me guys, we can do it. We did it once against Dortmund, we can do it tonight. Just show fucking balls tonight.’” Henderson says: “The players could see that the manager believed, which helped us believe in what he said. The manager has ingrained that belief into us: no matter what happens you keep fighting right to the end.” Another speech that left a lasting impression with his players was delivered at the Hotel Royal in Evian before the start of the 2019-20 season. Klopp was keen to focus minds and draw a line under all the fanfare that had followed the club’s Champions League final triumph in Madrid. “In 20, 30, 40 years from now, everyone will know that we were Champions League winners in 2019,” he told them. “That is in the record books and nobody can take that away from us. In Madrid, we made it six times for this wonderful club and that is a fantastic achievement but now we want more. “We want to be Premier League winners for the first time, we want to be European Cup winners for the seventh time. As a group, we want to keep on winning.” Robertson was captivated. “It’s no exaggeration to say the hairs on the back of my neck were standing up as he spoke,” he says. “I don’t think I’ve come across many people in any walk of life who are better able not just to sense the mood but to take advantage of it. “For the gaffer, it wasn’t about taking the memories away from us, it was about keeping them with us and using them for inspiration going forward. Basically, he was creating a hunger in us to become serial winners. The other message was that we were going to need to stick together more than ever and that we had to have that kind of unity, which means that if you cut one of us, we all bleed.” This season Klopp has talked about “attacking the title rather than defending it”. Robertson says this message has helped foster positive energy. “It’s brilliant psychology,” he says, “because it establishes a new target to go at rather than making us fear that we have something to lose.
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