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It’s an hour after the game and I’ve already started the report. Usually I wait at least 24 hours, sometimes longer, but this time I need to get it all down now rather than stew over it. I doubt I’ll feel any differently in a month, let alone a day. The anger will hopefully subside (it better, as right now I’m ready to kill someone) but the sense of injustice won’t. This was one of those games you’ll never forget and the feeling of being robbed never goes away. Funnily enough it was only a few days ago I was thinking back to when Suarez scored a late winner there and it was wrongly ruled out for offside. I’ve never actually got over that, having that moment of euphoria unfairly snatched away. That was bad, but at least the linesman had the excuse of only seeing it at normal speed with the naked eye. This was far worse, and a lot more sinister. Firstly, before I get into all that, I want to make the point that this was a really good performance from the lads to bounce back from what happened at Villa Park. We wanted a response and we got it. The way we started the game I felt as though we were going to absolutely steamroller them. There was an aggression and a desire to play on the front foot, and Everton couldn’t cope. It looked like the lads wanted to make a statement and overall they did. So from that point of view, all good. The anger I’m feeling has nothing to do with anything performance related and I saw a lot of things to make me feel good about the rest of the season, not least how that midfield looked with Thiago and Hendo in tandem. Wow. Our opening goal was beautiful. Slick, sexy football that ended with Robbo skipping past Coleman and pulling it back for Sadio to finish. Prior to the game that’s the area I thought we could really hurt them. That “Hamez” twat has a great left peg but he’s slow as fuck and doesn’t want to chase back. What a horrible little bastard he is. Waving his imaginary cards and constantly being up in the ref’s grid. Fucking over-rated little gel-head turd. Sick of the fawning over him already. He’s being hyped up like he’s some superstar but he’s been a bit part player at every big club he’s been at. If he was that good he wouldn’t have ended up at Everton in his prime years. He’s basically Shaqiri at Stoke, only with more Instagram followers. So that side of the field was always going to be key for us. The opportunity was always going to be there to overload on Coleman and that was happening a lot early doors. It led to the opening goal and should have led to a second when Sadio missed an identical chance after again being set up by Robbo. So yeah, all good to start with. We were already one up and if the officials had done their job we’d have been playing against ten men for most of the game. Pickford somehow getting away with that might be the biggest miscarriage of justice involving a goalkeeper since Harold Schumacher almost killed Patrick Battiston and was only yellow carded. Not even joking. My mind is blown that he was allowed to stay on after that. I don’t know what happened there. I’ve heard Peter Walton say that the offside doesn’t make any difference in that situation and that Pickford should have walked. I’ve also seen a rules nerd on Twitter saying that only applies for ‘violent conduct’ and not ‘serious foul play’. Dermot Gallagher, the baldy Michael Stipe looking bootlicking cunt, obviously defended the decision as that’s what he does. He’s never seen a decision he didn’t agree with. I tell you what I do know. Richarlison was sent off for a lunge on Thiago even though the whistle had actually gone for a free-kick a split second earlier. So how is this any different? Answer; it isn’t. Leaving aside the fact I don’t think it was offside anyway (I’ll get to that shortly), that is serious foul play, endangering an opponent, violent conduct, common assault and a whole lot of other things rolled into one. It’s not up for debate. It’s a clear red card and there is no way on earth Pickford should have been allowed to stay on. So how come he got away with it? Michael Oliver could have given it so he isn’t blameless, but from the replays it looks like he didn’t have an unobstructed view of it and in situations like that he would previously rely on his linesman (who had a great view). Now he has the lino as well as VAR, so if he doesn’t want to give something he didn’t have a great view of then that’s fine. Oliver isn’t the problem here. The technology is in place to help him out and it didn’t. So I’m not holding him responsible in any way as that is only taking the attention away from the cunt who caused all this. And I don’t mean Pickford. Either the VAR ref, David Coote, is incompetent or he’s something far worse. I don’t know, but he’s the same fella who didn’t give the foul on Origi at Old Trafford last season when he was on VAR and he’s the twat that didn’t give a penalty when Robbo was brought down against Burnley. Yeah, remember that one? When Robbo laid into the ref at the end of the game because it cost us our 100% home record? Well Coote was the ref Robbo and Klopp tore a strip off at the end. And now he’s got his revenge. Other than a deliberate show of bias, it’s hard to fathom any possible explanation for why he didn’t tell Oliver to take a look at that challenge. The only reason he was reviewing the offside was because otherwise it would be a penalty. So the initial explanation put forward that “VAR didn’t review the challenge” is bollocks. They must have realised that because they then changed their tune and said it was reviewed and Coote didn’t feel that Oliver needed to look at it. I’d go as far as to say that this should be a sackable offence. Seriously, if you can look at that and not think it’s a red card, you’re in the wrong job. Or if you know it’s red card but ignore it for whatever reason, again, you’re in the wrong job. It was a horrific challenge and it’s no surprise that Virgil’s knee is damaged. When people talk about “career ending tackles” this is the fucking poster child of it. Just look at the impact, the height he comes in at and the force behind it. It really ought to have been even worse only fortunately Virgil’s studs didn’t stick in the turf. I’ve seen similar things happen in NFL games where the player’s knee has completely hyper-extended backwards because his foot had planted in the turf. Thankfully Virgil’s wasn’t as bad as some I’ve seen in other sports, but we now have to wait to see just what kind of damage there is. Because there 100% is some ligament damage there as you can’t absorb contact like that without there being some kind of damage. Virgil is as close to indestructible as you’ll find, but he’s not made of rubber. One thing I will say in defence of Pickford is that he’s not malicious, he’s just shit, impulsive and reckless. He didn’t intend to injure Van Dijk, he was just lunging out trying to make a block. I’ve seen him do that loads of times. Flying out of his goal, completely out of control and endangering opponents. He genuinely isn’t trying to hurt anyone but there’s no doubt that he’s just fucking thick and reckless as fuck. Compare that to Richarlison and it’s chalk and cheese though. Richarlison 100% wanted to do damage and he can stick his phoney insincere twitter apology up his hoop, the fucking animal. If you’ve been reading the round ups you know my hatred of Richarlison is long standing, even going back to his Watford days. Over recent months he’s cemented himself as the player I hate most in the entire world of football. He’s a pure, unadulterated shithouse cunt with the kind of face you’d never tire of smacking. What he did to Thiago was deliberate and fucking cowardly. Pickford though, he wasn’t looking to injure anyone he was just fully committed to making a block and he was totally out of control. It’s standard Pickford though. He’s just reckless and wild in literally everything he does. He’s so amped up all the time, like a kid who’s had too many skittles. I’ve said it before but I’m sure he’s on the spectrum of something. He’s definitely got something going on, and I’m not saying that as a cheap insult, I’m being completely serious. I look at him and immediately think of the kid in school who always has a big green dangly snot rolling out of his nose. The kid whose tongue is always out when he’s writing or drawing. The kid who has to sit at the front of the class because he can’t keep still and is always turning around and talking. That’s Jordan Pickford. I don’t know what condition he has as I’m no expert, but he has something. I’d put money on it. I’m not THAT angry with Pickford though. I am a bit of course, that goes without saying. Virgil is injured as a result of Pickford’s lack of control, but to be honest I’m more pissed off at the cunt in Stockley Park who chose to ignore it. He doesn’t have any excuse for his actions and unlike Pickford you won’t get him apologising for it either. You know the other difference between Pickford and Richarlison? Pickford told Henderson to apologise to Virgil on his behalf. Pretty sure he tried to do it himself while Virg was on the floor getting treatment too. It doesn’t make what he did ok, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m merely highlighting the difference between him and Richarlison. Pickford didn’t make a big public show of apologising because the only thing he wanted to do was get a message to Van Dijk to say he was sorry. Richarlison was the opposite. He didn’t apologise to Thiago on the field when it happened because he was more interested in feigning injury hoping to escape a red card. After he’d been sent off he didn’t go over and apologise then. He just walked off with that horrible face like a smacked arse expression he permanently has. So to then go on Twitter later on and apologise. Nah, fuck off you shady, snide little cunt. I hope Thiago sees straight through that. I’d like to think the Brazilian lads would rethink their friendship with the scumbag too, but no doubt Alisson will have them all “turning the other cheek” and preaching the value of forgiveness. That Van Dijk incident changed the game though. Until that moment we were so much on top and I was genuinely feeling like the lads looked in the mood to make up for two weeks ago by scoring seven of their own. That incident was just a momentum killer because it was a triple whammy. First, it was a penalty. That offside decision was iffy as fuck. I’m aware that the offside rules have changed this season due to tweaking of the attacking handball rule. Whereas last season goals were being disallowed when the ball hit an attacker’s shoulder, this year it’s now been changed to the upper arm, which in turn has affected the offside rule. That’s what Coote used to screw us. The line is drawn not to the armpit as it would have been last year, but now it’s to the bottom of the shoulder / top of the arm area. Even so, that line is not drawn to the right point on Virgil’s arm, and even if it was I still don’t think that’s offside. The problem is when it’s that close the cunt on the VAR can basically do whatever he wants. I’ve said all along that it should be based on feet and nothing else. If your foot is offside then you’re offside. All of this shit about shoulders and chests and heads, it’s needlessly complicating things and killing people’s enjoyment of the sport. So not only were we denied a penalty and not only did we lose Virgil to injury, but we conceded virtually straight away. And it’s a goal that doesn’t happen if he’s on the pitch. When was the last time we conceded like that? It just hardly ever happens. Even after that one we were back on track and defended set-pieces well. But the first one without him, after the reshuffle, we weren’t organised and it cost us. Adrian though. That was fucking terrible. The marking in the box was the first problem, but even so that’s an easy save. Initially I didn’t think it was but after seeing the replay it’s just awful goalkeeping. His footwork gives him no chance of being able to react as he’s moving backwards and crouching down. I’m not scapegoating him, I’m just saying what I saw. If he’s stood normally he saves it easily, but he’s hunched down and off balance and therefore can’t react. They didn’t deserve to be level at the break as we’d been much the better side. I liked how we were playing, even after Virg went off. We were back to looking like Liverpool again. The hunger, the pressing, the sharp movement in attacking areas. At half time I felt good about our chances. Play like that again in the second half and we’ll defo win. Unfortunately we didn’t play like that again. The second half started quite scrappily and we were losing too many second balls. The control we had in the first half had gone and although we were still the team playing the better football, we’d lost something from the first half showing. We eventually got it back but the first 20 minutes or so of the second half wasn’t great. Other than that, top performance I thought. We could easily have conceded in that scrappy spell though as Richarlison headed a Rodriguez cross against the post. I thought Adrian should have come out and dealt with the cross but to be fair I think he would have saved the header with his foot if the post hadn’t gotten in the way. We went 2-1 up with a sharp finish from Mo after the ball fell to him in the box. He’d been a bit in and out all game and had produced two awfully weak shots in good situations, but this was Fowler-esque, controlling a half volley into the corner. This was the point when we should have buried them (Matip went really close with a header and we had other moments) but instead we allowed them to draw level again. Generally we controlled them well and restricted the service to Calvert-Lewin but this time we gave the ball away cheaply (Sadio with a stupid back heel) and got caught. Hendo couldn’t quite cut out the pass and Trent allowed Digne to run off him and deliver a cross for Calvert-Lewin to head home. Terrible from Trent that, I don’t actually know what he was even thinking. It almost looked like he was holding a line to play offside except he was about 10 yards further forward. He needs to track that run and prevent the cross, because once the cross came in it was game over. Robbo might have done better in putting Calvert-Lewin off but he was always going to be in trouble there. The striker hung in the air and headed it back where it came from. Not much you can do about that, the big problem is allowing the cross in the first place. Not to mention giving it away so needlessly to begin with. We reacted well to that and Pickford denied Sadio after he snuck in behind. The rebound fell to Jota (on for Bobby) and his sent it back goal wards. It was going straight at Pickford so Mané correctly decided to try and divert it in with his head, but he put too much on it and it went wide. Then we had the Richarlison assault on Thiago that reduced them to ten men. To be honest I’m surprised it took that long, as both Gomes and Allan had been flirting with red cards all day. That Gomes is proper shite. I’ve been saying it for ages but he’s somehow fooled people into thinking he’s good just because he looks like he should be good. Being handsome and having Barcelona on your CV is enough to fool a lot of people it seems, but not me. I’m onto him. He’s fucking SHITE him. And he’s a snide. Allan is another twat but I will concede that he’s a good player. I couldn’t stand him when he faced us with Napoli as I always remember he seemed to be in the thick of everything, constantly fouling, squaring up to people and getting in the refs face. When the Blues signed him I thought “yep, he’ll fit right in there” and he has. He looks, and plays, like he’s an enforcer for a Brazilian prison gang. With us on top and them a man down, it was just about whether we could find a winner in the short time we had left. And we did. It may not have counted, but make no mistake we won that game. Thiago’s brilliant no look reverse pass found Mané and he cut it back for Hendo to send a shot goal wards. It should have been saved but Pickford made a Pickford out of it and the ball ended up in the net. Everyone went wild. Klopp, his staff, the players, all of us watching at home. There’s nothing like a late derby winner and this was about to be added to the long list of recent ones. And then came the VAR check. You could see on the screen that he was fucking about with the lines, trying to make it look offside. Immediately I knew we were fucked. When the decision came through I lost it. I generally keep a cool head when I’m watching the match at home but this time I lost the plot, punching fuck out of the sofa, shouting and screaming, before I knew I needed to get out of there and headed for the back garden. On my way I booted the sofa in the conservatory and almost broke my foot. It’s hurting today but it would have been worse if I hadn’t realised at the last second that I was going to do myself an injury and managed to take a little something off it. I honestly don’t remember ever being angrier about a football match. I’ve now had 24 hours or so since it ended and I haven’t really calmed down much. I’m not wanting to smash up furniture as I was when it first happened, but I’m in an absolute stinking mood and feel like I could just snap at the slightest little thing. It’s not about the result, it’s purely about the injustice of it and the feeling of being cheated. We conceded seven at Villa and I felt nothing like this. I got over that fairly quickly. This though? It’s going to sting for a long time. I’ve been against VAR from day one because it sucks the emotion out of watching the game. You don’t want to celebrate goals in case they’re ruled out. There have been plenty of times I haven’t celebrated because I didn’t want to jump the gun. Sometimes it was justified because the goal didn’t count, but other times the goal stood and I realised I hadn’t even celebrated it. How shit is that? I celebrated this one, big time. And for what? For some little jobsworth traffic warden cunt to suck the life out of us all by disallowing it. What I resent about this is that it’s only offside if you want to make it offside, and even then it’s not actually offside. This is actually very simple. Had the goal stood there wouldn’t have been anybody other than the most rabid Evertonian saying it was offside. No pundits, no journalists, no fans without any stake in the outcome, no ex referees working for TV. Nobody. Absolutely nobody. So Coote was not in a situation where he knew “I have to disallow this”. He simply chose to disallow it because that’s what he wanted to do. He manipulated the evidence in front of him to justify a decision he wanted to make. The same applies to the Pickford incident, only that one is easier to put down to simple incompetence. The Hendo goal isn’t incompetence, it’s just dodgy as fuck. Liverpool have asked for clarification on what part of Sadio was deemed to be offside. They won’t get clarification because you can see on the freeze-frame there is no part of him offside at the moment Thiago plays the pass. They’ll get a fudged answer about the technology showing his shoulder is ahead of Mina’s foot and Keane’s arse and blah blah blah but it’s nonsense. The footage used with the red and blue lines is bullshit. There’s daylight between Sadio’s shoulder and the blue part of the line, but you could actually drive a bus through the gap between his shoulder and the red line. The reason for the gap is because a vertical line then has to be drawn from the shoulder to the floor, which then gives you the red and blue lines he used to justify it being offside. I’m not having it at all though. He’s messed about with those lines and the point of contact when Thiago plays the ball to come to the decision he wanted to make. It fucking stinks. This is ruining the game and turning people away from it. If it wasn’t my livelihood I feel like there’s a good chance I’d fuck the whole thing off because it seems as though every year there’s something else comes in to make the game a little bit less enjoyable. It’s not even sour grapes relating to things that don’t go our way. I mean fucking hell, I was even angry the other week when a Manchester United player was unjustly sent off. Imagine that! Even thinking about that now makes me even more livid. I mean come on, Martial was sent off for barely touching Lamela (who had provoked the whole thing by being a cunt and then made it worse by rolling around the floor) yet Pickford is allowed to endanger the career of an opponent and escapes scot free. What is the fucking point of having video evidence if it’s actually making worse decisions than the ref on the field would? These faceless cunts in suits are ruining the game with their stupid fucking messing about with the rules. You could probably argue that the actions of Coote in this game are enough for us to actually demand the game be replayed. Obviously that’s not a road you want to go down as we’ll never get any kind of refereeing decision ever again if we embarrassed them in that manner, but this is just cheating, pure and simple. The worst part is how the technology will be used as a crutch to hide behind. It’s not the technology that is at fault, it’s the absolute cunts occasionally implementing it. It isn’t all VAR officials, some of them are doing a good job. I’ve lost track of the amount of times I’ve dropped the “C” bomb in this report but it isn’t even a strong enough word to do justice to some of the horrible fuckers I’m talking about. So what now? We’re waiting on news on Virgil but let’s face it, it’s not going to be good. It’s simply a case of how bad is it going to be. Best case scenario would probably be 4-6 weeks and I don’t even want to think about the worst case. So now we have to make do without him for an undetermined length of time. A lot of people will write us off now, especially all the smug fuckers who’ve been saying “let’s see how they’d do if they were without Van Dijk” but never ask the same question of what happens if any other side loses their most important player. Well we are going to be without him now so it’s up to the others to prove all the naysayers wrong. Whether that’s Matip and Gomez as a pair (for as long as either of them can stay fit) or whether Fabinho comes into the mix, it doesn’t matter. The team should still be good enough to get by unless we get more injuries. Of course we’ll miss Virg for however long he’s out, but we still have the rest of the team intact (or will have when Alisson comes back anyway) and Thiago is going to help us reach another level anyway as he’s sensational. Assuming he to hasn’t been crocked by some dirty blueshite. The mad thing about this is we can’t even say it was the derby atmosphere and the influence of 35,000 frothing at the mouth rabid blues screaming them on. They acted like this without any fans in the ground. Cunts. Star man is Hendo, who was fucking incredible. What a performance, and never would there have been a more fitting match winner than him. It’s a scandal that he was robbed off it by a cunt who if he was in any other line of work (other than politician) would be picking up his P45 on Monday morning for such a gross failing of duty. Klopp’s message to the players this week should be this: Fuck Everton. Fuck David Coote. Fuck everyone who isn’t us. Team: Adrian; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk (Gomez), Robertson; Fabinho (Wijnaldum), Henderson, Thiago; Salah, Firmino (Jota), Mané:31 points
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Now the dust has settled and I've had time to reflect on yesterday's game I have to admit the blue side of the city are looking the real deal now, a shift in power could come sooner than we thought. They scored two good goals yesterday.....they've got a brilliant manager too, they could defo win the league this season. They've been in the shadows of their neighbours for years now but the tide could now be turning. People need to accept that the blues are gonna be right up there at the end of the season Well done Steven Gerrard and Rangers.12 points
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We've been quite lucky with injuries to our key players over the last few seasons. The way in which this one happened though has left a very sour taste. Everton have essentially kicked the fuck out of arguably our most important player and got off scott free. Really hope karma gets them back, the yard dog cunts.10 points
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I’m even more angry this morning. On sky just now they have a sort of mini supplement looking at the papers and it seems everyone thinks Pickford should have been sent off and Henderson’s goal should have stood! So it’s not just us being biased. It makes me mad how Pickford got away with that.10 points
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Report by Dave Usher It’s an hour after the game and I’ve already started the report. Usually I wait at least 24 hours, sometimes longer, but this time I need to get it all down now rather than stew over it. I doubt I’ll feel any differently in a month, let alone a day. The anger will hopefully subside (it better, as right now I’m ready to kill someone) but the sense of injustice won’t. This was one of those games you’ll never forget and the feeling of being robbed never goes away. Funnily enough it was only a few days ago I was thinking back to when Suarez scored a late winner there and it was wrongly ruled out for offside. I’ve never actually got over that, having that moment of euphoria unfairly snatched away. That was bad, but at least the linesman had the excuse of only seeing it at normal speed with the naked eye. This was far worse, and a lot more sinister. Firstly, before I get into all that, I want to make the point that this was a really good performance from the lads to bounce back from what happened at Villa Park. We wanted a response and we got it. The way we started the game I felt as though we were going to absolutely steamroller them. There was an aggression and a desire to play on the front foot, and Everton couldn’t cope. It looked like the lads wanted to make a statement and overall they did. So from that point of view, all good. The anger I’m feeling has nothing to do with anything performance related and I saw a lot of things to make me feel good about the rest of the season, not least how that midfield looked with Thiago and Hendo in tandem. Wow. Our opening goal was beautiful. Slick, sexy football that ended with Robbo skipping past Coleman and pulling it back for Sadio to finish. Prior to the game that’s the area I thought we could really hurt them. That “Hamez” twat has a great left peg but he’s slow as fuck and doesn’t want to chase back. What a horrible little bastard he is. Waving his imaginary cards and constantly being up in the ref’s grid. Fucking over-rated little gel-head turd. Sick of the fawning over him already. He’s being hyped up like he’s some superstar but he’s been a bit part player at every big club he’s been at. If he was that good he wouldn’t have ended up at Everton in his prime years. He’s basically Shaqiri at Stoke, only with more Instagram followers. So that side of the field was always going to be key for us. The opportunity was always going to be there to overload on Coleman and that was happening a lot early doors. It led to the opening goal and should have led to a second when Sadio missed an identical chance after again being set up by Robbo. So yeah, all good to start with. We were already one up and if the officials had done their job we’d have been playing against ten men for most of the game. Pickford somehow getting away with that might be the biggest miscarriage of justice involving a goalkeeper since Harold Schumacher almost killed Patrick Battiston and was only yellow carded. Not even joking. My mind is blown that he was allowed to stay on after that. I don’t know what happened there. I’ve heard Peter Walton say that the offside doesn’t make any difference in that situation and that Pickford should have walked. I’ve also seen a rules nerd on Twitter saying that only applies for ‘violent conduct’ and not ‘serious foul play’. Dermot Gallagher, the baldy Michael Stipe looking bootlicking cunt, obviously defended the decision as that’s what he does. He’s never seen a decision he didn’t agree with. I tell you what I do know. Richarlison was sent off for a lunge on Thiago even though the whistle had actually gone for a free-kick a split second earlier. So how is this any different? Answer; it isn’t. Leaving aside the fact I don’t think it was offside anyway (I’ll get to that shortly), that is serious foul play, endangering an opponent, violent conduct, common assault and a whole lot of other things rolled into one. This is just a teaser, click here to view the full report Please note that Match Reports are only available to website subscribers. Subscriptions cost just £2 a month (you need to register first) and can be purchased here.6 points
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He will be difficult to replace,granted,but other players have to if possible step up and do a job,I'm certainly not giving up on retaining the title,why should we?we have a fantastic team and incredible team spirit.We need to try and keep upbeat.Other teams will lose key players to injury, its inevitable. Get well soon Virgil,COYR6 points
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Ta lad, its good to be back. Been meaning to get back amongst it for a while but... err... life and shit. Now, did I mention Pickford is a cunt yet?5 points
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Alisson is close to returning to training and as long as there’s no reaction, he should be back in goal before the end of October. [@JamesPearceLFC]5 points
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Klopp is a great manager, he will tweak us tactically and I’m sure we’ll be fine. As great as Virgil is, it’s not like he’s our only world class player, we’ve a team full of them. We need to not feel sorry for ourselves and just go out and show our class.5 points
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Its not like Pickford hasn't form for this either. Remember his tackle on Delle Ali before? He needs a lengthy retrospective ban for this5 points
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Carra is a cunt. I don't know why on earth people give a shit or quote anything he says.4 points
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We had a few that got into organised crime. one burnt down a school to provide a diversion for a massive armed robbery (he turned up on a documentary about 2 yrs ago complaining about benefits, although he had a different name) another blew his brains out in the toilet ofna pub as he owed the wrong people too much money, about 4 or 5 in prison. I have feeling they weren’t listening in RE.4 points
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I can't find much criticism for the club over the centre backs. VVD is the best in the world, whatever the cover him being out would weaken us considerably. In Matip and Gomez we have excellent centre backs. Sadly, both are injury prone but we can't have six "first team" centre backs just because that's the case. I'd imagine long term we're going to have to make a decision on one or both of them. But Fabinho is very good there. Phillips is 23, has played in the German second tier which is a pretty decent level. I think against ale house sides, alongside Matip or Fabinho, he wouldn't be an appalling option. We'll probably need to change some things tactically but, as others have said, we've been pretty poor defensively with VVD in the side so needed to make some tactical changes anyway. The keeper situation is a much bigger problem. Adrian and Karius should have been binned in the summer, and a decent back up signed. Yes, no-one is going to be as good as Alisson, but there is a fucking huge ability gap between what we could have and what we do have. Alisson and VVD out is going to chuck us back into the pack to some degree, I reckon. There doesn't appear to be a stand out team in the league. Could have four, five or even six teams within a dozen points by the end of the season, and 85 points might win the league.4 points
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People are forgetting the Funes Mori simpleton and his attack on Origi. I maintain that set him back years, he was in unreal form until that happened4 points
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A couple from my village found an abandoned cat in a forest with a injured leg. We were planning on adopting a cat after we finished decorating but this little fucker pulled at our heart strings. The couple took him to the vet and they think he broke/fractured his leg and it’s not healed properly. We are going back to the vet tomorrow and hoping there’s some way of making it more comfortable for him as he hops about a bit. My previous cat wasn’t very sociable but this guy is the complete opposite. He constantly needs love and affection. Just hope that he’ll be ok as he’s part of the family after 24hrs already. We’ve called him Rui.4 points
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I wasn't worried about the covid pandemic when I was lying awake last night I was worried about virg's knee.4 points
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Really striking that even in northern Ireland you've got two rival leaders who are working together to protect the country despite all their differences, yet here you've got nothing but arguments and point scoring. Tory MPs turning on each other in GM today. The Welsh, Northern Irish and Scottish leaders for any other flaws they may have, clearly all care about their countries and their people. I've said it before and I'll say it again, ours care nothing for the country or its people, all they care about is money and themselves. They'd sell it all to Russia or China for a tenner. I'll never forgive northerners who voted for these cunts.4 points
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I think with Alisson back we'll be much more secure from set pieces, with Thiago, Fabinho, Wijnaldum and Henderson we could potentially defend much better from midfield than we have done as well. The one thing we really need is Bobby to find his mojo. We can control games, we need to convert more to allow for a few more concessions.3 points
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Ha Ha. my first pair of boots were a second hand pair of Top Dog rugby boots that I struggled to actually lift my legs with. I used to take the corners for All Saints Anfield under 10's as I was the only one who could get the casey into the area if I got the toe cap in the right place.3 points
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Here is a novel idea, deal with all of it, whether big or small. The thing about it being done to a bloke it would be nothing, is neither here nor there. It got done to a girl deal with those facts, not what would or could or might have happened if it was done to a bloke. He shouldn't touch any referee or assistant, it should be a straight dismissal. And that is before we even go into the whole Harvey Epstein side of things of what is acceptable. To me he overstepped the line massively on what is acceptable.3 points
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Gove seems to of limited his exposure as much as possible. He in my opinion is the worst of them. Where the royals are reptilians I see him as some kind of shape shifting gecko, he whispers in the ears of his masters whilst clinging to the back of their throne licking his own eyeballs. Fucking lesser lizard wormtail.3 points
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People still living in fantasy land. The blairites which is the vast majority of the PLP are economically right wing and as liberal as a lot of conservative MP’s are which makes our democracy a fucking sham. The idea that these cunts would ever entertain left wing economic policy and therefore it’s Corbyn that was the problem is laughable. The fact that they were happy to sabotage a left wing Labour Party at all should tell you enough about them but to do it when facing the most economically right wing Tory opposition it has ever faced is sickening. They didn’t do it as some sort of response to Corbyn saying get in line either. They were doing it from day one. He was happy to have a shitload of them in his cabinet. They wanted him out and for various reasons. The fear that members would get more of a say and potentially democratically choose somebody else to represent them. If they had backed the left wing policy as they fucking should do as a fucking Labour MP they wouldn’t have had any problem either but that was obviously a step too far for these cunts. Our politics is now a complete mess, probably bigger than it’s ever been. We’ve now had a Corbyn who has offered us all of these policies and it’s inspired a lot of people to vote again and it also pulled back a lot of UKIP voters as it gave them a reason to actually vote labour again. That’s dead now and it’s for good. Some people seem to think that we’ve just changed the face at the top but that’s not the reality and I think they’re going to be in for a shock when election time comes up. The tories will go further and further right whilst labour basically just tries to occupy the same position as the tories in everything bar immigration which is going to guarantee a Tory majority for the foreseeable future.2 points
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It’s difficult to grasp how a first choice CB was on the bench in their last league game when they played wirh 3 CBs. It was his first start for Leicester today, and I was under the illusion that the reason for that was that two of the three CBs that started the previous game are injured. As is Wes Morgan. I was also under the illusion that we, like Leicester, played in Europe. He says he wanted to join Leicester because he can learn so much from the manager and the players at the club. I’m stupid enough to think we could’ve matched that as well. And I also find it difficult to grasp that there isn’t a handful of other good young CBs out there the English and World Champions could’ve signed if they wanted to.2 points
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He's first choice at Leicester who will play in Europe, ffs. He'd have been 4th choice here and may not have wanted that/we'd never pay 30m+. What is so hard to understand about that concept?2 points
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Carragher saying it didn’t matter if he was sent off or not of course it fucking did if he’d have gone then the over the top tackle Thiago (which incidentally nobody mentioned) doesn’t happen as he’d have been hooked when they went down to 10 men. And then have a pop at Souness about the tackles he made, I mean what the fuck did that have to do with anything . .?2 points
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Even if we did sign a replacement we would be in this mess. A replacement for Lovren is easy enough, finding one for VVD not possible.2 points
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Cannot be arsed with any of this whataboutery from either side on this. Look at that Pickford tackle and admit it was a shithouse tackle, it's severely injured a player and it's shite. There have been bad tackles from our lads before and I wouldn't defend or celebrate them and no Evertonian should be doing celebrating or defending Pickford. Add in the injustice of him not getting sent off and it's tough to take.2 points
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I’m wearing matching socks today and playing Scrabble on an iPad. I feel like Royalty.2 points
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Last 10 minutes, man in the bin and Racing completely on top. Incredible defence and performance to win the Heineken Cup. I can’t say I enjoy watching Exeter play but you can’t not respect them.2 points
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I remember that luckily I was in the Gwladys St so I didn’t see it as much as you guys . I remember Alan Hansen saying the next day after Stevens and Everton defended the tackle (some things never change ) “apart from it being a mile high and an hour late it was fine”2 points
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Thing is, even Stevie Wonder could see the officials got both those decisions wrong. You just have to wonder at the standard of the officials in the PL. Yet again united were given another penalty. There's no ferguson tp berate refs any more and there's no way united 'get in the box more' than other teams. Mo get's fuck all when dragged around the box by oppo defenders. The same defenders only need look at fernandes and he goes down. There's clear pictures of him fouling himself for the pen they gave against Villa yet they still get these pens. The old girl used to think I was just a biased old git going on about cheating refs but even she has come round to the view that generally we're on the end of shit decisions.2 points
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@tokyojoe suggested I should put this in here. Here My Dear is a brilliant album and the vocal on this gets me every time.2 points
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Actions that can seriously damage an opponent or end a career are not punished, and players are getting sent off for harmless things like when Lamela threw himself to the ground after Martial raised his hand. An action that probably wasn’t powerful enough to hurt a fly. All this with VAR to help get it right. The level of incompetence knows no limits.2 points
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And both of those things are options and worthy of discussion. This is a forum, we're here to discuss. As I've just put in my previous post, I actually take a half way position between what we've done and buying some stop gap crap. And if some people feel validated that they aired their fears in the summer and now those worst fears are unfolding in front of our eyes, it seems a pretty normal reaction on derby day would be "for fucks sake". And it doesn't take a genius to see matip is made glass, gomez is made of crisps and pretty ordinary to poor quality - so the idea of discussing why the club may not be addressing such obvious issues when till just weeks ago felt the club needed another centre back, again is that not a valid discussion point? You seem to be suggesting we should shut the forum down and just put up a page "LFC get it all right and don't ever dare question or discuss them". And as for people thinking they're geniuses, I suggest next time you get the chance, take a little look in the mirror.2 points
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Both Hendo and Bobby are clearly offside in that second picture more so than Virg but they've fucked about with the offside law that that no longer matters. As you say, we're talking pixels on a screen deciding this. Pre VAR, FIFA decreed marginal offsides, the benefit should go to the striker. I remember Jimmy Hill saying on MoTD years ago, the more you muck about with the rules, the more controversy you create. FIFA seem to have lost sight that the objective of the game is to score goals, not disallow them on miniscule margins. FIFA wants the on field ref to be the final arbiter. They've made VAR it instead. It is baffling to me why oliver didnt go and look at the monitor for both the van Dijk assault and Mane's 'offside.' Im a massive Liverpool fan but I hate seeing on field injustices against any team, yes, including united,city and everton. If you dont, then you havent got realistic grounds to complain when you're on the end of similar injustices. I honest cannot remember when Ive been so fucking fuming over decisions in a game. There's no way pickford can claim he mistimed that challenge, it's just plain reckless and a leg breaker. Using the excuse the ball wasnt in play because of the offside is a shit stain on football if they're going to allow that. It means any player can now be reckless if they've noticed a lino flagging out the corner of their eye. The richarlison is just as fucking snidey and clear intent to injure an opponent. At first, I didnt think it was that bad but looking at it again and the cunt making a song and dance about leaving the field, I hope the FA give him at least a 5 games ban. But you know they wont. I love my football and I can be a dickhead with the best of them. But those incidents today really make me wonder what is the fucking point? You've got small clubs plus clubs just getting promoted to the PL and having the same voice as clubs like Liverpool. These are the cunts who vetoed 5 subs in PL games when all the major leagues in Europe allowed it for this season. "Ooh, you've got better players than us so it isnt fair you have a bigger pool of players to choose from." No shit, sherlock, that's what success gives you, the edge over your opponents. Live with it or fuck off back to the Championship. Not that it made any appreciable difference, but we had players playing on the other side of the world in midweek, as did the shite but the tv schedulers decided this game had to be a 12.30 kick off. Where were the 'smaller' and promoted teams bleating about that because I cant find any of those cunts speaking up for Liverpool FC or everton for that matter? Mike Riley's a cunt. Michael Oliver is, I think, one of the better PL refs but he had an absolute clusterfuck of a game if he's honest with himself. How can he think he's applied the laws of the game when pickford flies in like that and he cant be arsed even looking at the pitchside monitor for it or Sadio's 'offside? Still fucking fuming the more I think about it!2 points