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  1. All that good work from the kids to get us this far, only for it end like this? With a fucking whimper. This was a chance to get back on track and prevent a wobble becoming a slump. After this? Yeah now it’s a slump. There’s a danger of over-reacting and I’m very conscious of that. It wasn’t our strongest eleven and Chelsea away is always tough. The first half performance was alright other than some pitiful finishing. So all of that comes into play. But that second half was so fucking shambolic that it’s hard not to be concerned about just what the fuck has happened to us recently. If it was just Origi being shite, Lallana being off the pace and Minamino completely vanishing in the second half there’d be nothing to worry about. It wasn’t just that though. The key players are the biggest worry. This was a chance for some of them to put Watford out of their system, but instead they’ve just added to the sense of unease. Fabinho was dogshit. Robbo wasn’t much better. Mané cut a frustrated, irritated figure all night and I thought he was going to get sent off after the final whistle when he lost his shit with the snide that is Azpilacueta. Even Van Dijk’s standards have plummeted. He was so fucking casual he may as well have taken to the field with a dressing gown and a pipe, while Gomez was worse than all of them. Maybe they’re all still unsettled by Lovren on Saturday? I’m glad Lovren was nowhere to be seen this time because now people have to look at what the real problem is; it’s not one player, it’s all of them. And I mean, ALL of them. Nobody is playing well right now. Not one of them and I defy anyone to tell me I’m wrong. It’s hard to fathom what’s happening right now, but that second half was just so desperate. It was really tough to watch because it was obvious we were never going to score and there was a real danger we’d concede three or four. From the moment it went to 2-0 I was fighting the urge to just switch the telly off because it was just so frustrating. Obviously I didn’t do it, but the fact it was even a consideration shows how hopeless it seemed. It didn’t start off like that though. The first half was frustrating as fuck, but only because we just couldn’t finish off a lot of damn good approach play. There was a lot to like about the first half. We looked like us again. Not exactly like us, as we were far too open in midfield and looked vulnerable to counter attacks. The midfield trio of Fabinho, Lallana and Jones looked unbalanced. In the Watford report I dismissed the notion that our problem was the absence of Henderson. I’m still not going there, not completely anyway. We should be able to cope without him but the evidence suggests maybe we can’t. He wouldn’t solve all of our current ills but the one thing that is glaring is that teams are able to run right through us when he’s not there. We play such an offensive style that it’s a really fine line we walk. Klopp describes it as ‘protecting our own attacks’ and what we can clearly see now is we don’t do that anywhere near as well without Hendo. Our openness coupled with some inventive play up front made for an entertaining half though. We had loads of chances and played some excellent football to slice through Chelsea. Williams was bombing forward and putting in some sumptuous crosses. Minimino buzzed around was involved far more than we’ve seen him in any of his other appearances, while Mané got himself into some great situations without making the most of them. Our finishing was fucking hopeless though. If we hit the target then it was usually straight at Kepa. I think we all feared the worst after that pinball incident in their box when Kepa made three saves in as many seconds from Sadio, Origi and Jones. We had others chances that we squandered too. The only time Kepa was actually stretched was after a sensational run and shot by Sadio that he parried wide. That was also the only time all night that Sadio looked like Sadio in front of goal. Chelsea had their chances too. Adrian made an incredible save to deny Willian, but seconds later he undid his good work by fumbling one in from the same player. That goal was a fucking shambles, and not just because of Adrian’s blunder. The fannying around with it around our own box when Chelsea had so many players high up in position to press was just reckless. Fabinho’s role in it can’t be ignored either. Shite that, but then he’s looked off the pace ever since he came back from injury. Adrian made another incredible save after the break to tip Giroud’s effort onto the underside of the bar, and he also denied Pedro when he raced clear after a mix up between Williams and Gomez. I don’t attach any blame to him for Chelsea’s second goal either, but I am convinced that Alisson would have saved it. Alison is too good to let that fucking bum Ross Barkley score past him. That isn’t a knock on Adrian as most keepers would have been beaten by it, but you rarely if ever see Alisson concede anything that doesn’t go right into the corner. This wasn’t in the corner. Adrian was beaten by the pace of it, but I don’t think Alisson would have been because he never is. Which brings me to the question; why was Alisson not selected? Klopp went with a strong team and the only regulars who didn’t start were ones who clearly needed to be rested - Trent, Gini, Bobby and Mo. Alison didn’t need a rest though. So why not pick him? Probably because of this gentleman’s agreement that clubs seem to have with the back up keeper whereby they get to play in the cups. I get it, and if Klopp has indeed promised Adrian that he’d feature in the FA Cup then he has to stand by that. All I’m saying is that if Alisson had played then I don’t think we’d have lost. We’ll never know of course, and as I say if Klopp has made that agreement with Adrian then it’s all moot anyway. The one thing I really can’t fathom is the continual selection of Origi on the left. He’s SHITE on the left wing. Absolute fucking shite. Time and again we see the same performance. from him, yet time and again Klopp puts him out there on the left wing. He’s a centre forward. Not a great one, but he’s got a good knack for finding the net. Klopp has done him absolutely no favours this season by persistently using him on the left. He’s better on the right than he is on the left, and he’s not really much good there either. The priority this summer has to be signing another forward who is as good as or even better than throatier we have. That’s how you avoid stagnating. The front three are all 100% sure of their places and after a while that is no longer healthy. Origi is no threat to them. Neither are Shaqiri (if he was ever fit) or Minamino. That’s the next step we have to take. Whether that’s Timo Werner or somebody else I don’t know, but that’s what needs to happen. You know what pissed me off more than anything though? Klopp’s substitutions. Firstly, he left it too late to bring on Milner and Firmino. Secondly, taking Jones off ahead of Fabinho or Lallana was absolutely incredible to me. What the fuck? I know it was done for defensive reasons but we were 2-0 down. So what if Jones is somewhat naive in his off the ball positioning. At least he was doing something when he had it. That change annoyed the fuck out of me to be honest. Move him into the front three then, or switch to 4-2-3-1 or something. Replacing him with Milner was not going to overturn a 2-0 deficit though, that’s for sure. Thirdly, Salah should have been on the instant it went to 2-0. Why would you wait until 80 minutes to put him on if you were trying to stay in the cup? There are a number of fans who regularly make sneering remarks about Klopp not giving a shit about the FA Cup. I wouldn’t quite go that far, but I don’t think he’s arsed that we’re out and the fact he waited so long to introduce Salah is fairly damning. The thing is, I’m probably less arsed about the FA Cup than anyone. Hell, I’d have played the kids again if it were up to me. Klopp didn’t do that and you could argue that the selection of Van Dijk over Matip was proof as to how seriously he was taking the game. I don’t see it quite like that though. I think he went with a stronger side than he initially intended to because we’d lost two of our previous three and he didn’t want to suffer another loss. He wanted to win the game more than he wanted to progress in the cup, and when it became clear that we were probably going to lose, his substitutions spoke volumes to me. This one stings at the moment but in a few weeks it will long be forgotten. That’s why we need to keep our perspective here. The last two games have been shockers. In fact, the last four have really. So it’s easy to get down about it but the reality is that we’re going to win the title and we’re well on course for the highest points total EVER. That has us somewhat spoiled. We’re not used to losing and I think as fans we’re in danger of forgetting how to react to it. I’m not pointing fingers here, as I’m including myself in this. My reaction during and immediately after the Watford and Chelsea losses was completely over the top. Given what the lads have done this season and last (and the one before that for that matter) we don’t have the right to be as angry as some of us are. That being said, we’d better fucking beat Bournemouth this weekend because this slump could quickly become a crisis. Thank fuck we’re so far ahead otherwise the nerves would be jangling massively now. It’s not just a win we need though, it’s some form. We don’t have a fucking hope in hell of breaking down Atletico playing like this, so the quicker we snap out of this the better. We will snap to of it, of that I have no doubt. The question is how quickly. We have a spell like this every winter. It cost us the title last year when we had all those draws. Our dip always comes in the month or so after Christmas and then we get our second wind and end the season well. If we get past Atletico we’ve got a great chance of going all the way again. Will we get past Atletico though? Not playing like this we won’t, so Jurgen needs to figure this out quickly. Star man? Just like Saturday I’m not naming one as nobody deserved it. It would have been Adrian but for the howler on their first goal. The least shit was probably Williams (shite second half crossing notwithstanding) or Jones, but they didn’t do enough for me to justify giving either the star man, so no-one gets it. Team: Adrian; Williams, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Lallana (Salah), Jones (Milner); Mané, Minamino, Origi (Firmino)
    10 points
  2. This little bunny rabbit stray was being ignored hanging around the restaurant in Koh Samui yesterday. Not on my watch. Took me the best part of an hour but I got there in the end. The upper pic is when I put her back down as we were leaving...
    5 points
  3. The Fabulous Flying Baby Cat is taking this latest defeat hard.
    5 points
  4. Suzy it's PED's and corruption. Also Justice for the 96 is in bad taste and cheapens those lives lost but justice for the 39 in spite of no explanation as to what that justice should be or what the fuck it's got to do with Everton other than being weaponised as a way to attack Liverpool is all class and dignity.
    4 points
  5. @rb14 cheers man appreciate your post. I come on here because its a great way to vent, and not to carry it offline around my family. I'm frustrated at this team, firstly, when we were on our unbeaten run, it wasn't all wine and roses and this team has proved its capable of playing some blistering football that can put most teams to the sword, but we haven't been doing that, in fact it seems as if its fallen off Jurgen radar. We have players who play on instinct up front and it would help if we let them off the leash once in a while. The other frustration I have is the lack of team management, we play the same team constantly bar possibly one switch, which is all fine and good until you need the fringe players to step in and contribute. Its little wonder, Origi, Minimino, Lallana and co are quite ineffective at times, they just don't get the chance to really bed into the team. Finally we have stopped competing. We competed first half last night, then gave up. Wheres the fight? As a team we need to fight dirty at times and let the opposition know we won't be bullied, but we are too nice. Madrid is case in point, we allowed them to bully us and drag us down to their level with their antics. Im hoping we pick up from saturday, start pressing and forcing defences into mistakes and add some real intensity to our game and to our players, especially our front three who really need a jolt back into form.
    3 points
  6. Anyone the grew up on a council estate that votes Tory is a complete cunt.
    3 points
  7. Staggered by stuff this thread. Good grief. Some of our posters have been called "pessimists", "ev supporters", "negative cunts" or worse. Is there really any need? Continually being positive is admirable, but who brought in a rule that says you can't be negative in adversity? And most of what has been said hasn't even been negative. It's a perspective and I believe we're entitled to them. You don't get top superfan points by being eternally positive. Nor should you become the whipping boy for stating how you see it if it's negative. Watford was crap. Most of this game was crap. We've been crap since (I think actually before) the "break". If being crap isn't grounds for alarm bells, what is? After Watford, Lovren got slaughtered relentlessly on the match thread, almost total assassination (you'll never walk alone). You could count the posts defending him on no fingers. In the Watford match report @dave uopined that singling-out Lovren was more than a little unjustified. I think I saw* only @Bob Spunkmouse dissent. I don't recall seeing anyone neg Dave or Bob's very well-argued reply. I'm not going back to check but I'm pretty sure @TheDrowningMan and @BeefStroganoff (to name but two) have as much right as anyone else to post what they think. Neither comes across to me as anything other than a Liverpool supporter. But they most often get their opinion battered. It's almost like a mob mentality. Why? Is it because they're not as eloquent as Dave or Bob? Crime of the century. Is it because they're pessimists? Burn the heretics. Disagree with them by all means, but negging them? Really? *If you didn't read Dave's take on Lovren, there's still time. If you didn't read it because you've not paid your subs, shame on you.
    3 points
  8. I voted Hoffs, but just watched this...
    3 points
  9. Monty's feeling a bit shit after the game tonight.
    3 points
  10. The two albums they did after Gabriel left were prog gold (Trick of the Tale & Wind & Wuthering), Seconds Out is amazing too. Hackett leaving was the real killer blow.
    2 points
  11. Hopefully this will be the third time I can get to see them if i can get my hands on tickets tomorrow. Best album, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. Fave song, Suppers Ready. An absolute masterpiece. Anyone throw it up here in a video for us all to enjoy?
    2 points
  12. Mandatory hash brown neg. I've been very clear on this.
    2 points
  13. Ill do a boxing one next. Got it all planned.
    2 points
  14. Well, I just checked. Keita has played 368 minutes in the league this season. Exactly the same amount as current paper mache midfielder Adam Lallana. Legendary sick note Daniel Sturridge played more in each of his last three seasons. That is fucking bad.
    2 points
  15. All humour aside, an interesting read that shows the challenges ahead...not sure about the bats thing though...was that debunked? https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/coronavirus-synchronous-failure-and-the-global-phase-shift-3f00d4552940
    2 points
  16. Thought this was their recent honours list on Wikipedia for a second.
    2 points
  17. Bollocks excuse. He’s a beaner and that's game, set and match. All beaners are related to Boris Johnson and wrong’uns.
    2 points
  18. Piers Morgan would have interviewed Fred West about home improvement's if he thought it would bump up the viewing figures
    2 points
  19. No PED's coming in from China because of the Coronavirus.
    2 points
  20. Isabel (six months old senorita from mexico) lording over her new empire, with her yucatecan boyfriend (furnando) and arch rival for the throne (tabitha) below....
    2 points
  21. On the plus side, them Chelsea players were bloody brilliant. If that Gilmour doesn't win player of the tournament, then there's no justice. 3 cheers for Gilmour. Hip hip!
    2 points
  22. 2 points
  23. No major trophy is meaningless. Ever.
    2 points
  24. Good article by a Doctor/barbell coach I follow ... https://www.greysteel.org/single-post/2020/03/03/Coronavirus-Mar-3-2020
    2 points
  25. I've got mine on too.
    2 points
  26. Don’t worry, I’m on our Coronavirus working group. Should have it cracked by Monday, Tuesday at the latest.
    2 points
  27. I seem to recall a big to-do about who they would bring in on lead vocals after Gabriel left; seems a bit daft now, considering Collins had already sung More Fool Me.
    1 point
  28. Sounds like he's in a latte trouble.
    1 point
  29. 1 point
  30. Drugs. Blood transfusions to make it heal quicker, PEDS to build up the muscles quicker. Definitely something dodgy coming back that quick. A mate of mine has a sports science degree, he reckons that Gomez done a lot of his rehab in Germany and Austria, the only 2 countries where you can obtain the drugs.
    1 point
  31. Milner should get star man just for lamping Pedro when he’d no hope of catching him
    1 point
  32. We spent the Atletico game and much of last night playing it across the field in front of a packed opposition defence. Once they had the lead, Lampard copied Simeone's homework in denying us width. It's surprising that it took so long for us to be confronted with this approach - it's not like Robertson and Trent have flown under the radar over the last two years. Ox and the woefully inconsistent Keita would potentially offer a more central option to attack (each with a different approach), but we didn't have either last night.
    1 point
  33. Madness. We've only just ended a period in which we won one trophy in 12 years (or maybe no trophies, since it was "only" the League Cup) and suddenly we can be so blasé - so "I wouldn't get out of bed for anything less than the Champions League" - that we're comparing the oldest and greatest domestic cup competition in the world to the fucking Lancashire Senior Cup.
    1 point
  34. Linders said intensity is our identity, recently the opposition has shown more intensity. Forget this game but do we need a new approach, to over simplify it have we be found out, I'm not on about the results but the performances previous to the losses. It just feels like the opposition's game plan is better than ours. It doesn't help when top players are out of form screwing up very basic play.
    1 point
  35. Giving the others false hope of catching up a little.
    1 point
  36. Basically, opposition finishing has turned from absolutely awful to absolutely amazing. Not to say that 26 wins out of 27 in the league was built like a house of cards on a waterbed, but our win record did not reflect our performances and now the luck has shifted. Two things stand out the most tonight: The giveaways of possession were absolutely criminal. It's impossible to defend when you give the ball away as much and in the areas of the pitch we did. And secondly, we somehow managed to out-naive Chelsea, the most naive team in the league, by far. Astounding.
    1 point
  37. Shit night all round. Saw him at the Bournemouth O2 tonight. Truly beautiful stuff. The richness and depth in the man’s voice alone were just out of this world. Had a backing singer who’s power reminded me of Clare Torrey’s vocal parts on Dark Side of the Moon. All told shaping up to be a top 20 gig of all-time absolute minimum. Had it continued as it began for the first 7 or 8 songs, likely comfortably in my top 10. Only time I’ve ever been to the venue and it be fully sold out...absolute sardines and could barely see the stage. Went up to the first floor to try for a better view, via the bar, and during the walk heard his voice spack out a bit at the start of a song, then vaguely heard him saying something about needing 5 minutes. Bit of confusion reigned and eventually the whole backing band trooped back out together, the lass with the amazing voice confirming he wasn’t going to be able to continue as he was very unwell but had just tried to push through. Real, real shame. Some middle-aged prick stood next to me immediately started raging about it being “A fucking swizz”. Some cunts really are beyond help. Can only say if that was him ill and with a voice on the verge of totally breaking down throughout, I can only imagine the quality when he’s on top form. Truly sublime but cut down 48 minutes in. To cap it off, caught the result of the other on someone else’s phone as I left, having left mine at home by mistake and missed some of my oldest mates in there. Will have to catch him again next time and hope for better luck, but would thoroughly recommend him live to anyone even based on the above.
    1 point
  38. We‘re going to be Premier League Champions. Even Assuming the worst, in the return leg, that we can’t come back against Athletico, we will still be English Champions, European Champions and World Club Champions, for a period time. What’s not to love about that? Next season is going to be a seriously interesting season. Klopp has to get the squad motivated again like Guardiola had to this season at City. That’s life in the fast lane folks. No sit downs, no let ups. Lampard will have settled in at Chelsea, Arsenal looking to rebound, Mourinho desperate at Spurs to show he’s not finished. United slowly coming together, whether we like it or not. Fuck me next season is going to be huge. Just like the good old days.
    1 point
  39. Play him down the middle and he's a different player. Seen plenty of games where Bobby's done fuck all yet Origi doesn't get a chance there, and when he does one of Mane or Salah get played in the middle and Origi is stuck bizzarely on the left. The odd game he plays in the middle he usuall6 has a blinder e.g. against the blues but then you don't see him again for months.
    1 point
  40. I already do, so I'm considering wearing a full hazmat suit as well so I can freak people out on conference calls.
    1 point
  41. For some reason, this amused me more than it should have. https://mobile.twitter.com/thisistomlittle/status/1232016649269714945
    1 point
  42. and that lesson is, start checking under your car every morning, you blert. Only messing, Just at weekends.
    1 point
  43. Jordan pickford reckons there is no need to wash your hands at all,just wear gloves.He has caught fuck all
    1 point
  44. Some Iranian I dealt with in work changed his name by deed poll to Terry Gardner. Fuck knows why.
    1 point



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