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  1. Saturday Feb 8: The wives of Hendo and Mo both gave birth in the last day or so, pretty much exactly nine months since we beat Barca at Anfield. The first thing that came to my mind was fair play to Hendo considering the absolute state he was in at the end of that game. Mo had the night off so obviously he was full of beans, but Hendo collapsed in a heap at full time, his knee was in bits and he’d been pumped full of pain killers, so that’s a proper captain’s knock that. Milner took to social media to congratulate Hendo and quipped “assist by Origi” and hash tagged it #cornertakenquickly. What a man. Meanwhile, the investigation into our supposed ‘hacking’ of Man City’s scouting database has been closed. City will be livid but there’s fuck all they can say, publicly at least, because they accepted a £1m pay off with a legal binding agreement on both sides to make no comment on it. City weren’t arsed at the time because we were shite and posed no threat. Then, a few days after a meeting of the PL clubs in which some, including us, asked the PL just what they were doing about City’s blatant breaching of FFP rules, this story resurfaced in the Times, six years after the actual incident. Some co-incidence that, eh? The investigation was dropped by the FA because of the amount of time that has passed and because City had already accepted a settlement. Liverpool admitted no wrong doing, but because they coughed up a million quid that sort of implies guilt. From what I’ve been told, there was no ‘hacking’ and that’s a proper disingenuous way of putting it. The way these scouting systems are set up, the higher up the chain you are the more access you have. So, if you’re Michael Edwards for example, you’d be able to log in and you’d have access to all the scouting reports from everyone beneath you. If you’re one of the scouts on the lower rung of the ladder, you only have your own reports. Dave Fallows left City but he never ‘hacked’ anything to get back in. If he could still see the reports from the scouts who worked under him, it’s clearly because they never revoked his access. It’s claimed that he was looking at the reports for players they were scouting, and I’m sure he was because why the fuck wouldn’t you? It’s unethical and you can argue it’s poor form, but it’s not exactly crime of the century is it? Which is why we gave them a million quid by way of apology. The only reason it even reared it’s head again is because we became dead good and also because City were wanting to deflect from their own cheating. Classic case of ‘whataboutery’. Sunday Feb 9: Man City’s game is postponed due to the weather, meaning we might have to wait a bit longer to wrap up the title, depending on when that game is rescheduled for. Be funny if they stick in the middle of their winter break. It’d be even funnier if they were actually in a title race and could cry ‘conspiracy’. Difficult to do that from 22 points behind, although I’m sure that won’t stop the loons on Blue Moon. Saw a tweet today from Pedro Chirivella in response to something the clubs official account had put out about him. I had a little look at the replies and saw some fella saying he’s not going to make it here because he doesn’t have the physicality and he’s a yard slower than the other midfielders. That’s probably true, but what possesses someone to be tagging the player in on something like that? If I ruled the world, I’d find out who he was and I’d send the boys around to give him a kicking. It winds me right up. If he wants to tweet his opinion on Pedro and say he won’t make it here that’s fine. No problem at all as we all have opinions and social media gives us a platform to express them. When you tag the player in though, seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? Not just any player either. A young lad who has been sensational for us when he’s been drafted in for these cup games. I had a look through his account and Pedro often replies to fans who message him, so that tells me he reads his mentions and will have seen what this goon was saying. I’m sure it won’t have bothered him, but it bothers me as there’s just no need for it. So many people in this world are just fucking turds. Monday Feb 10: Bernardo Silva says Man City gave up on the title too soon. "I think we got to a point one month ago where we gave up a bit too soon and that's why we're twenty-something points behind now. We shouldn't have done that and it was not on purpose. It was in our head, everyone was disappointed to be already ten or 15 points behind and our heads went a bit down. It's difficult because we're a team used to winning and last season we won everything in England.” First thing I thought when reading that was “Mentality Midgets”. "In the important moments we’ve not been as lucky as in past seasons,” he said. “We always concede in the last minute, Liverpool always score in the last minute. These little details in football make the difference." They’ve let in a couple of late ones and we’ve scored a few late ones, but it doesn’t account for 22 points worth of difference. You keep telling yourself it’s just bad luck though. Another day, another bullshit transfer rumour. Bayern want to sign Bobby for £75m. That would barely even pay for his teeth. Even if they doubled that I reckon Klopp would tell them to fuck off. Tuesday Feb 11: Published an article from my mate Chris on the site last night. It was a piece inspired by the Owen interview on Carra’s podcast last week and it was very much pro-Owen. As soon as I tweeted out the link for it I decided I wasn’t going to look at my mentions as I knew what to expect, especially when Carra and Owen both put it on their Twitter too, which always attracts way more of the lunatic fringe. Not liking him is fine, but it always makes me squirm when I see the words “Judas” and “Rat” thrown around. It’s what I expect from United fans. It’s the same mentality that has them booing anyone who has had any connection to us, no matter how small. If you don’t like Owen, that’s your prerogative, but the whole “once a manc never a red” thing just makes me cringe. Leave that bitterness to them. I said my piece on all of that last week so I’m not going to go over it again, but there was one point made by Chris that I hadn’t really thought too much about and now that I have it’s really pissed me off. How come the club’s social media account acts as though Michael Owen doesn’t exist? As I say, it’s not something I’d paid any attention to but Chris took issue that they’re more than happy to tweet Happy Birthday to Suarez or Torres or do one of those “on this day (insert number) years ago (insert player) scored this incredible goal” posts, but they never do anything like that for Owen. It’s actually fucking weird when you think about it. I mean look at today for example. They were posting “Happy Birthday to Steve McManaman” which is fine, as whatever people think of Macca and how he left, he was a great player for us and gave us some great memories. He also won two trophies for us, almost single handedly. Just like Michael Owen in fact, but where were his birthday wishes from the club? I’ve heard people saying Owen is a bit of a whiner and seems to feel sorry for himself. I agree, he is occasionally coming across like that when he talks about Liverpool and his legacy, but can you really blame him when he’s seeing the club try to airbrush him out of their history? Why not go the whole hog and remove some of those trophies he won for us from the trophy wall they’re so keen to keep showing us all? I get why some people don’t like him. I get why a lot of people are completely indifferent to him. What I don’t get is why the club are treating him differently to other ex players who left. If it’s because he played for Manchester United then that’s utterly embarrassing, smalltime, manc behaviour. We should be better than that. Wednesday Feb 12: Timo Werner rumours are really gathering pace. He’s been lighting it up in Germany this year apparently, averaging a goal a game and looking like a superstar. He’s a good age (24) and by all accounts is seen as a good fit for how we play. So why am I not excited by this in the least? Mbappe, that’s why. I’m setting myself up for one big disappointment this summer when he ends up going to fucking Chelsea or somewhere. Still, you just know Jurgen will end up bringing someone in who ends up being fucking incredible. It might even be Werner. Thursday Feb 13: Or maybe it will be Sancho? We’re said to be one of the teams to have contacted Dortmund to express an interest. I think I’ve written before that I’ve seen virtually nothing of him as I don’t watch England or Dortmund. I can’t actually remember ever watching him play at all in fact, although I’ve seen some highlights posted on social media. The price for him seems like something we wouldn’t pay. I could see us pushing the boat out for Mbappe, but going over £100m for Sancho when Werner is available at half that isn’t really our style. We’ll go big when it’s a hole that desperately needs filling (Virg and Alisson) but when you’ve got the best front three in the world it seems a bit silly spending that much on a player who isn’t better than what we have. Of course Sancho is really young and might soon become better than what we have, which is why I wouldn’t rule it out entirely. Friday Feb 14: Oh my God, this season is just too good to be true. City being banned from Europe for two years would be the biggest game changer I can ever remember. It would finish them. They’d lose Guardiola, half the players would fuck off, no top stars would want to join them and they’d just be damaged goods. And it would be 100% deserved, the arrogant cheating cunts. Still, it’s not all bad for them, as when everyone fucks off then at least boy wonder Phil Foden might actually get to start the occasional league game. And of course Raheem will still be there, as he’s always shown such incredible loyalty to his previous clubs. Seriously, as soon as this news broke I bet Aidy Ward was on the phone to potential new clubs. You know where I reckon Sterling is going to eventually end up? Old Trafford. Don’t ask me why, I just have a gut feeling. He’d have no qualms about going there and I don’t think anyone else would pay the asking price. A two year ban from the CL would be fucking catastrophic for City. They’d lose around £150m, which is a problem when you’re already struggling to comply with FFP rules. If they’re £150m down, they have to make that up somehow, and they can’t just concoct some fake sponsorship that comes out of the Sheikh’s pockets. And that’s even without the PL and FA getting involved. They may have sanctions of their own yet. I’ve said all along that it’s up to the clubs really. If everyone puts pressure on the PL to do something about it, they’ll have to. The thing that’s done my head in is that City’s cheating is seen by many as being ok because it only impacts the other big clubs. It doesn’t though, it’s fucked it for everyone. City have hoovered up all the domestic cups, meaning no-one else has had a chance. Look at what happened to Watford in the cup final. They were humiliated. Or Burton Albion in the League Cup semi. Had City played by the same rules everyone else is playing by then maybe some of the smaller teams would have stood a chance at winning a cup. This shit affects every club, not just the ones like us and United that have missed out on titles because of their cheating. It’s hard to shake the feeling that they’ll somehow wriggle out of it because money and power always wins. It wouldn’t shock me but then I think if UEFA didn’t believe they had a watertight case why would they come down so hard on City? If this decision isn’t upheld, then FFP may as well be fucked off completely as it’s utterly pointless. And if that happens, City will spend double, treble, what they did before because there’ll be nothing to stop them. The funny thing is though we’ll still be better than them as long as Klopp is here. and that was the week that was….
    12 points
  2. 7 points
  3. Fucking FIFTY Jesus Christ
    7 points
  4. Was that posted by someone called Blue Phoenix?
    6 points
  5. Dunno mate, I'm not into social media enough to know. But aside from our mates from county road, I can't see why everyone wouldn't want to rip them. Surely the measure of the leagues quality can only be in how it compares to other leagues, unless all of a sudden we're supposed to believe they don't count either? Last season we had all 4 finalists in the European competitions. This year, everybody has qualified in both the CL and EL. Man City are broadly seen (despite them being cheating cunts) as the best side in the history of English football and have only been eliminated from European competition in the last 2 seasons when they've met another English side. Since klopp was manager Liverpool have only lost European ties in finals. Out of the 8 finalists in the uefa cup England have provided 4 places, winning 2 and have provided 3 finalist from the last 8 in the champions League, winning one. In the same time of the 5 major leagues, Italy have taken 1 of those 16 final births, France 1 and Germany none. Only Spain competes providing 6 finalists to England's 7, while taking 5 trophies to England's 3. But the tradjectory is in going towards England. It would feel to me with all the evidence we have available to us at this moment in time, English football is about as strong as it has ever been, is either the strongest or 2nd strongest in Europe depending how you want to measure it. Any idea we are winning a weak league is just a bunch of bad losers trying to reason why our win has no value.
    6 points
  6. Have you ever wondered how many Twitter followers Oscar Wilde would have had if he had been born into this generation? All those exquisite one-liners, razor-sharp put-downs, witty assassinations of the bumptious and the bluffers. I thought of something Wilde said when news of Manchester City’s two-year ban from European competition broke on Friday. It came with a warning not to feel too much sympathy for City. In 1889 Wilde wrote an essay called The Decay of Lying: An Observation. It is a conversation between two characters, Vivian and Cyril. At one point, Vivian addresses the central issue. “After all, what is a fine lie? Simply that which is its own evidence. If a man is sufficiently unimaginative to produce evidence in support of a lie, he might just as well speak the truth at once.” In November 2018 the German magazine Der Spiegel, using stolen documents, wrote a series of articles about how Manchester City and Paris Saint-Germain circumvented Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules. As Der Spiegelhad in its possession a multitude of internal emails from Manchester City, its four-part story on the English club offered damning evidence that they had broken the rules. The response from the club was the perfect epitome of Wilde’s “fine lie”. City did not argue that the incriminatory emails were fake but that they had been stolen. Neither did the response address the principal allegation that the owner, Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, was secretly funnelling hundreds of millions into the club, in contravention of FFP regulations. City just battened down the hatches. “The attempt to damage the club’s reputation is organised and clear,” it said in a statement. Without evidence to support its lie, City would indeed have been better off telling the truth from the beginning. Perhaps it was because the case against the club, written in its own emails, was irrefutable. Like confetti, the examples were scattered among Der Spiegel’s four pieces. Chief executive Ferran Soriano returning from a meeting of the European Club Association where it had become clear FFP rules were becoming important: “We will need to fight this and do it in a way that is not visible, or we will be pointed out as the global enemies of football.” The challenge for City was to increase revenue and this was achieved through lucrative sponsorship deals with Abu Dhabi-based companies: the airline Etihad, the investment company Aabar, the telecoms business Etisalat and the Abu Dhabi Tourism Authority. The deals, though, weren’t what they seemed. The annual £15 million from Aabar was just £3 million from the sponsor. Simon Pearce, a board member, explained in an internal communication where the rest came from: “£12 million coming from alternative sources provided by His Highness.” In another email Pearce, responding to a question from the chief financial officer Jorge Chumillas about whether the club could change the date of payments made by sponsors, wrote, “Of course, we can do what we want.” Perhaps emboldened by the brilliance of the team and encouraged by the weak, softly-softly approach taken by Uefa’s general secretary, Gianni Infantino, the club seemed to believe it should be beyond reproach. It threatened Uefa with lawsuits and there is one email that club lawyer Simon Cliff will deeply regret. “1 down, 6 to go,” he wrote to a colleague about the sudden death of former Belgian prime minister Jean-Luc Dehaene, who was leading the investigation into FFR irregularities. Most lovers of fine football never wanted to see this day. “They do play beautiful football, for that you could forgive them everything,” commented a Sunday Times reader in 2018. That may be how we feel in the moment of Kevin De Bruyne’s incisive dribble and pinpoint pass or when Sergio Agüero rifles the ball into the net. In the cold light of the following day, it is not so easy to ignore the lengths to which City went to disguise and misrepresent the sources of their revenue. Justice is not always evenly dispensed. In this case it certainly hasn’t been. Uefa’s Investigatory Chamber considered what went on at PSG , especially around the time the club paid €180 million (about £149 million) for Kylian Mbappé and then, a year later, €222 million (about £184m) for Neymar. Yves Leterme, another former Belgian prime minister, concluded that PSG had not broken FFP rules. Leterme’s report was released on June 18, 2018, four days after the start of the World Cup. Uefa’s adjudicatory committee chairman, Jose Narciso da Cunha Rodrigues, was astonished by Leterme’s exoneration of PSG and tried, unsuccessfully, to initiate a new investigation. “The decision to close the case was manifestly erroneous,” Da Cunha Rodrigues said. It may not have hurt PSG’s case that its president, Nasser al-Khelaifa, is on Uefa’s executive board and is chairman of the beIN Media Group, a major player when it comes to the sale of Uefa’s TV rights. The City story is another version of Saracens in rugby and Team Sky’s rise in cycling. At the beginning there is optimism and idealism, a desire to create an empire that will be successful and admirable. City have done much that is right and made a significant contribution to the regeneration of their part of east Manchester. From the beginning the team set out to play entertaining football and since the coming of Pep Guardiola they have been a joy to watch. So, too, Saracens played great rugby in becoming three-time European champions and they have also done much for the community around them. City under Guardiola, Saracens under Mark McCall and Team Sky under Dave Brailsford created cultures that were the envy of their rivals. Alas, when the time came for proper scrutiny all three cultures were less than they purported to be. The cost of that will not be counted in the millions City will lose from being excluded from the Champions League or in Saracens’ relegation. The true punishment comes in how their victories are remembered. City’s championships, Saracens’ titles, Team Sky’s success at the 2012 Tour de France; they all remain on the books but with asterisks alongside their names.
    5 points
  7. I always admire the dedication Anubis shows to monitoring other team’s forums. We’re not playing Leicester any time soon but he’s still given up his Saturday night to bring us that selection of posts. Incredible.
    5 points
  8. We would be mad to let any of the front 3 go anywhere for at least 2 more seasons. We wont sign Mbappe or Sancho unless Nike are paying. Even then, i doubt Klopp would go for it. We are the best and they are the best front 3. Let's just enjoy it. Salah's record is out of this world but i get the sense some would let him go - insane.
    4 points
  9. 4 points
  10. There are times I miss pre internet, pre mobile phone days. Alongside being a kid it was an adventure just to find your mates sometimes, you couldn't text where are you. You'd tread familiar grounds pick up clues speak to witnesses. There's nostalgia with the past I grow more nostalgic by the year. For all the technology and comfort of today I wouldn't trade being a kid in the 80s for it, I'm sure plenty of people from earlier decades feel the same about their childhood if it was a good one surrounded by good people.
    4 points
  11. When he was fit and on it, he was excellent. Especially that season with Suarez and Sterling. Wish him nothing but the best in his hotdog Enterprise.
    3 points
  12. That fat cunt will have wind rush every few minutes, the slobbering mess.
    3 points
  13. It'll be interesting to see what Guardiola does. He's an exceptional coach, but also pretty naive, as shown by his yellow ribbon stand. His Cruyffian idealism has made him blind to the means that facilitate his aesthetically beautiful football ends. If they lose the CAS appeal, and drag this out for months/years in order to delay any ban, it'll just be hanging over him. Any success achieved in the interim is like a goal that's due to be VAR checked. He's looking pretty tired. The questions aren't going away, and it'll be a constant drip effect over the course of his final season. Each win written up with a parting shot, a paragraph about ongoing legal action, framing their success against alleged offences. It'll hurt them in the short term, but an expedited process, a clean break from Guardiola, those who oversaw the cheating, and accepting the ban (bartered down to one season) is the only way to draw a line under the affair and salvage what little dignity they have left. I won't hold my breath.
    3 points
  14. 3 points
  15. Since the storm started down here my mrs hasnt stopped looking through the window. If it gets any worse i'll have to let her in.
    3 points
  16. I await JP's glorious return to the forum if this ever happens
    3 points
  17. Negged. I can't let that slide. No-one disses the Proclaimers in my house.
    3 points
  18. Not for me yet. I'm celebrating the individual wins, but I'm holding back the proper celebrations for when it's done.
    3 points
  19. I'll be at Otterspool Prom waiting! ...well...once the weather becomes a little less inclement.
    3 points
  20. Barney Ronay For City supporters the response will no doubt be one of weary defiance. Perhaps there might be some gallows consolation to be found in the fact history suggests they don’t stand to lose too much in any case. Read more A few desultory midweek home games. A VAR-inspired outrage, with attendant basement conspiracy theories. A quarter-final defeat to a heavyweight European power where Pep Guardiola gets the tactics wrong and sits looking sad and frail in his dugout.
    3 points
  21. There would be something rather spectacular about winning 2 titles in one season but then again we run D wing you slags, so why not?
    3 points
  22. Outrageous slander, I can only assume you have tasted some 5th rate shite version because the real thing is sheer art.
    3 points
  23. Going to be honest lads, I don't think I'd last very long.
    3 points
  24. The fallacy that everton and other fans like to believe is that English clubs caused no trouble at all in Europe and the banning of all English clubs was merely the result of that terrible night in Belgium. But the truth is far removed from that. English clubs had a litany of trouble in Europe in and around grounds. united were the FIRST English team banned by Uefa after their fans rioted at a Cup Winners Cup 1st leg game in St Etienne in 1978. They appealled, were strangely supported in that appeal by St Etienne and re instated with the 2nd leg ordered to be played hundreds of miles from old trafford. The game was eventually played at Plymouth Argyle's ground which united won on aggregate. Leeds fans had rioted earlier in 1975 during their Champions Cup Final when some would say dodgey reffing went against them. Everton are not blemish free either having seen their fans trash Vienna on their way to winning the Cup Winners Cup. I think Spurs fans had some dodgey encounters but cannot remember whether that was after being goaded by Dutch fans. In any case, the terms of the UEFA ban spells out that while Liverpool and Heysel was the final straw, the litany of English troubles abroad resulted in a 5 year ban for Liverpool and 4 years for all other English clubs. If we were the sole cause, UEFA would only have banned us. But they did not because other English clubs had troubles as well. As usual, the blue hordes and others ignore these clear and obvious facts saying we got everyone kicked out of Europe. No we didnt but we were the final straw for UEFA.
    3 points
  25. Not entirely sure blaming the CPS for taking domestic violence so seriously is the right course in the aftermath of such a tragedy. Victims often ask for charges to be dropped, find themselves drawn back to their partner and re-enter a cycle of abuse.
    2 points
  26. The problem with that theory is the ban is the least of their worries going forward. They would be under a microscope to get in line after the ban is finished - that is what they do not want.
    2 points
  27. Fucking hell, I'm staying quiet.
    2 points
  28. Happy birthday. Could be worse, you could be 60!
    2 points
  29. I love how you disappear when you get shown up for the lying bullshitting arse that you are. You just walk away. It’s honourable. I wish I had the same steel
    2 points
  30. I watched this on iPlayer. What a woman. Her hubby seems a bit of a character too. The twist at the end with the other lawyer was a bit mad though. It appears that we are amongst the lucky ones who've managed to see this, as Miri Regev, the Israeli minister for culture and sport, has been doing her best to stop screenings of the documentary in Israel. The only democracy....
    2 points
  31. Us smashing the league and this city scandal has truly shown just how much the entire country hates out guts. It's just constant fume and bile being directed towards our achievements and trying to undermine us. With the city city scandal every liverpool fan is having Heysel thrown in our faces as we a trying to claim the moral high ground yet the fucking idiots forget that people went to prison and the club took the punishment with no complaints unlike this lot who are owned by some of the biggest human rights abusers in the world and think they can do what they want when it's clear they have broken the rules. I hope more than anything this is the beginning of the end for the utter scumnag club. All 19 other premier League clubs should not only vote to deduct historic points to strip them of the title but also vote to relegate them to league 2. If I was a chairman of a premier League club I would be pushing for that as they have made a mockery of English football and completely undermined its image. The years the FA have gone on about corruption in FIFA and all these years it was right under their own nose on their own doorstep makes them look like fools. Flush the turds back down where they belong.
    2 points
  32. For all Leicester's one off title and city's Aguero moment, wait until the day that Liverpool win the match that wins the league title and look at the partying afterwards. It will make your title wins look like you've just won the Muscial Chairs award at Charlie Jenkins' 8th birthday party. They really have no idea how big this feels to Liverpool fans and how much it will mean. The fact that we are so far ahead means the sum total of fuck all. This is going to be awesome.
    2 points
  33. One of my favourites but I prefer the Time Fades Away version.
    2 points
  34. I didn’t see your post about Cantwell and I can’t be arsed looking for it so I’m gonna neg you here instead.
    2 points
  35. We are fucking everyone's shit up. It's phenomenal, it'll never happen again. By anyone. Ever. I've never enjoyed a season as much as this one. Sorry, I'm drunk and the reds are fucking amazing
    2 points
  36. Agreed. Not sure why Moof stopped posting on that account.
    2 points
  37. This reminds me in some respects of how we dealt with the Suarez/Evra situation. I’m not talking about whether Suarez actually did it as that has been done to death, rather the respective responses from the clubs. At the time I was all for taking the FA to court and slagging everyone off in the press, but I’m just a fan and we always want that. In reality cooler heads should prevail at the club and deal it with quietly and professionally. In retrospect it would have been much better just releasing a statement saying we wouldn’t comment while investigations were ongoing and then going on the offensive behind closed doors. All the stuff with the players wearing the T-shirts in support etc... just poisoned the atmosphere around it all even more. Since then we’ve learnt to do our business quietly and influence things behind the scenes like the Mancs did under Ferguson. City are making the same mistakes being so belligerent about the whole thing and doing stuff like complaining about Uefa leaking to the press while they leak things to the press themselves, similarly the statement they released was ridiculous and I doubt it’ll impress people at the CAS, it would have been much better for them releasing a less combative statement and saving their arguments for the appeal. As it is stands now they look deranged blaming Uefa for being judge, jury and executioner. I mean, who else was meant to enforce the Uefa rules and bring charges if they had evidence of wrongdoing? I’m not bothered if they get the ban reduced to one year, the symbolism of having the guilty verdict upheld and permanently tarring their reputation as the cheating cunts they are is all important.
    2 points



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