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  1. A two goal lead and a clean sheet is a good night’s work. We’re not through yet but it would take an uncharacteristic defensive collapse for us to miss out on the semis now. Personally I thought Porto looked useful though so I’m taking nothing for granted yet. It’s a mark of how far we’ve come that a win like this is just seen as fairly routine now. Nothing to get overly excited about. In fact, there may even be an element of disappointment from some. We played alright, but it was generally third gear stuff. As I said, we’ve come a long way. The first half was good, the second half not so much. I wonder whether the way we played in the second half had anything to do with the Roma game last season though. 5-0 up and yet by the end of the second leg were hanging on and going through by a single goal margin because we conceded two away goals late on in the first leg. The first half in this one was end to end, thrilling stuff. Maybe Klopp didn't like that and thought we were too open? The second was certainly much more low key, as we played at a lower tempo and didn’t try to force it too much. Porto seemed to retreat into their shell a bit more too. In the first half they had a right go and seemed determined to not go home without an away goal or two. It made for an open, exciting opening 45 minutes. We went ahead very early courtesy of a deflected Keita strike. Lovely move, but the finish was somewhat lucky as Casillas looked like he probably had it covered until he was wrong footed by the deflection. That’s two goals in two games for Naby, both of them massively deflected (maybe he's becoming the new Lampard). They all count though and it seems to have helped his confidence no end. I loved Milner’s role in that goal too. He wasn’t content to just go in and win the ball, he made sure he knew exactly where it was going and he put it perfectly into space to set Mané away. Proper veteran know how that. Clever play from Bobby too to come short and collect the ball before rolling it to Naby. Just good football all round. We were rolling in that first half, helped considerably by how open Porto were playing. We don’t face that kind of approach very often and there’s a good reason for that, because it usually results in our forwards running wild. They threatened to do it in this game but it wasn’t quite happening, especially for Mo. He caused the Porto left back all manner of problems in the first half and should have scored when he went clean through after collecting a terrible backpass. Last season that was an automatic goal. This year it’s a 50-50 chance. It’s not like it was a terrible miss though, it was unlucky more than anything. But ‘unlucky’ was nowhere to be seen last season when he was banging in 44 goals. This was very unfortunate because he was impeded by a defender as he went through, and if he’d gone down it would have been a certain red card for Felipe. Mo rode the challenge but his momentum had gone, meaning the option of going around Casillas was no longer there. Instead he had to aim for a tiny gap and the ball rolled inches wide. Frustrating, but not particularly damaging as we scored soon after anyway. What a goal too. The pass from Hendo to split the defence and put Trent in was pure class. The ball across from Trent was perfect and Bobby had the simplest of tap ins. Glad to see he didn’t go with the ‘no look finish’ on that. No need to take any risks when you’re connecting with a cross coming at pace. Another 5-0 looked on the cards at this point but in fairness Porto always carried a threat and they could (probably should) have pulled one back and really thrown the cat among the pigeons with an away goal. Not for the first (or last) time, Marega found space in the channel behind Lovren and Trent and it needed a smart save from Alisson to deny him. Seconds later Alisson got into a mess when instead of catching a loose ball, he inexplicably just patted it onto the arm of Trent who was covering round the back post. That led to a VAR review, and as we know from the World Cup you can never be sure how those things are going to go, especially with handball decisions. Some of the VAR handball decisions in that tournament were mind bogglingly shit, so any time they go to the video you have to be a little concerned. It was never a penalty in a million years as there was nothing Trent could have done about it and it was point blank range, but the fact is we’ve seen them given. Thankfully common sense prevailed this time, but what the hell was Alisson doing? He’s had far too many of these ‘what the fuck’ moments but thankfully most of them have come to nothing. As well as being a better keeper than Karius and Mignolet, he’s also much luckier than them too as he’s gotten away with murder at times this season. I just hope he doesn't cost us over the next few weeks by doing something stupid. Porto’s tails were up now though and from the resulting corner they should have scored but again Marega’s finishing let him down, as this time he shot straight at Alisson when anything either side of him would have been a goal. He was a right handful that Marega though. His movement was great and he was constantly getting in behind. He gave our backline loads of problems but he didn’t give Alisson many, because he kept missing the target. The movement of Jamie Vardy but the finishing of Stuart Barlow. He’ll need to be watched carefully in the second leg though because it’s unlikely he’ll be this wild in his finishing for a second time. The end to end stuff continued and Bobby could have had a second but couldn’t keep his shot down. Difficult chance on his left foot, but the build up was glorious again. Nice driving run and pass to Henderson by Keita, and a lovely pick out from the skipper to drop it right at Bobby’s feet. That move typified the performance of the two box to box midfield lads. Naby and Hendo were both excellent and were involved in virtually everything good we produced. We also had a couple of those blistering counter attacks from the oppositions corners. Only the final ball let us down, but as I always say, there's nothing in football quite like a Kloppo counter attack. So 2-0 at half time and at this point I'm thinking that Klopp will sort out the issues at the back that was allowing Marega to get in behind, while at the other end we'd continue to push for more goals and basically finish the tie here and now. Never happened though. Marega was still a threat and we never really looked like scoring again. Actually that's not quite true as Sadio had a goal ruled out right at the start of the second half. I’ve seen loads of replays of it and still can’t tell if it was offside or not. Did that even go to VAR? I'm not sure it can if the linesman has already flagged. As far as I’m aware they aren’t supposed to flag if it’s close. Aren’t they meant to leave it and let it go to VAR? If he hadn’t put his flag up, would that goal have counted? I think it might, but we’ll never know. Thankfully it’s probably not that important anyway. At least I hope it’s not. That was pretty much as good as it got for us in the second half, as after that not a great deal happened. There were some good situations but they rarely led to clear chances. The intensity wasn’t quite there, which is fine because we were two goals ahead and we’ve got Chelsea this weekend. No point in going mad and knackering everyone ahead of that game. This was the kind of win we see virtually every week from City. Go a couple of goals up and then cruise, and conserve energy. I'd settle for five more wins like this in the league, that's for sure. Mo was annoying me in that second half though. I thought he looked boss in the first half, and that run back to his own box he made to snuff out a Porto counter was fucking ace. His decision making after half time was appalling though. I lost count of the amount of times he just dribbled straight into a defender. Porto seemed to play him differently after the break and instead of him coming up against the left back all the time, he was often confronted by the lad who is going to Madrid this summer, and he did very well to be fair. Mo got very little change out of him and also had a scare when VAR was used to see whether he should have been sent off for a studs up lunge. The still photo of it looks bad, but in real time you can see there’s no force behind the challenge, he just kind of dangles out his leg. Not just that, the only reason he’s even going into the challenge side on like that is because his arm is being pulled by another defender. VAR got that right, but again, on another night that would go against us. I fucking hate VAR, it’s horrendous, especially for those inside the ground who have absolutely no idea what's going on or what is even being looked at half the time. With 20 minutes left Klopp sent Origi on for Mané (a decision I was completely on board with) and then ten minutes later it was Sturridge on for Firmino (which had me scratching my head). Origi comes on and immediately wants to be positive and run at people. Sturridge comes on and gives us nothing without the ball, and in a game like this very little with the ball either. He’s someone you bring on for the last ten minutes of a league game when you’re 3-0 up, not when there's anything at stake and you're protecting a lead. To me it’s not a co-incidence that the last ten minutes was virtually all Porto. It happens all the time when Sturridge comes on. I’d love to know what Shaqiri has done to find himself in the doghouse. He almost got ten seconds at the end but the ball didn’t go out of play and he was left high and dry on the touchline in full kit when the final whistle went. I’d have been fuming, but he seemed in decent enough spirits. It’s weird that we haven’t seen him at all for months though, especially when Sturridge is getting on ahead of him. What next? Moreno getting a late run out on the right wing in the last couple of minutes on Sunday? All in all though a good nights work from Kloppo and the boys. Another goal or two would have allowed him to rotate a bit more for the second leg, but the main thing was to not concede and we did that, albeit somewhat unconvincingly at times. Marega got in behind us four or times times over the course of the game and that’s something that needs addressing before the second leg. It’s easy to just pin that on Lovren, but it wasn’t just down to him. One one occasion Van Dijk stepped up to play offside when he really needed to just cover behind his partner. Other times it was Trent not getting back in and leaving Lovren too much ground to cover. I Having not played for three months there was always going to be a bit of rust for Big Dejan, but overall he wasn't bad. The shirt belongs to Matip at the moment though and he should come straight back in on Sunday as he’s earned that spot over the last few months. It made sense to give him a rest and get Lovren some minutes though, as you never know who we might need in these next few weeks. With that in mind, it’s encouraging to see Keita finally contributing too, and the battle for places in midfield is pretty intense at the moment. Fabinho is virtually an automatic choice now, but Henderson has pushed to the front of the queue for one of the other two spots. Gini has gone off the boil recently and with Lallana once again proving that he can’t be relied upon Naby couldn’t have found a better time to show some signs of life. It will be interesting to see who gets the nod on Sunday. I suspect it will be Gini, but that would be a little harsh on Keita. This was probably his best game of the season. He was neat and tidy in possession, he was very good in his pressing and work off the ball, and we saw a couple of those gliding runs at the heart of the defence that were his trademark at Leipzig. More of that please, Naby. He was almost the star man, but once again I’m giving it to the captain. I thought he had a great game. Full of strong running, good passing and intelligent pressing. Honourably mentions to Bobby (some brilliant footwork in tight spaces) and Big Games James too, who were both very good. No-one played badly though. So now the focus is all on Sunday. I always felt that Spurs was the toughest game we would have left, but many have believed for weeks that Chelsea is the one with the most potential for things to go wrong. We don't have good history with this fixture and haven't beaten them at Anfield since Andy Carroll and Jonjo Shelvey were running wild all over them, days after they'd beaten us in the FA Cup Final. That's a long fucking time, and of course we had the infamous 2014 defeat that cost us a title. So I understand why there's trepidation about the game, and I'm not sitting here telling you it's going to be easy. I'm worried about it too, but what if we win it? The ramifications of that would be huge. Put yourself in Man City's shoes for a second. You're looking at the games we have left and will have a big red circle around this one. This was the fixture that handed City the title five years ago and they'll be hoping for the same outcome again. But if we come through this one then all the pressure is on them over the next few weeks. The only way to make them crack is to keep squeezing them. Who knows, by the time we play Chelsea Roy might have done us another favour and taken more points off City. Palace's home record is abysmal this year but they are well suited to playing against the better teams. If Zaha turns it on then you never know what might happen. I know one thing though, if City have slipped up in that game then the atmosphere at Anfield for that Chelsea game is going to be one for the ages. Just fucking win, lads. Just win. Team: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Van Dijk, Milner; Fabinho, Henderson, Keita; Salah, Firmino (Sturridge), Mané (Origi):
    10 points
  2. Ronaldo looks like an ice cream made out of suntan lotion.
    8 points
  3. Mine was looking at a cave drawing of two mammoths fucking.
    6 points
  4. It’s just as shit as I always thought it would be. youve got an Ex ref on TV - one who was always absolutely shit - saying what he thinks the result of the decision should be, with all the confidence and authority of Kevin Keegan saying David Batty will score the penalty in France 98 when put on the spot, and his guesses being equally as wrong. a stop of possible penalties that nobody on the field called for, and the fans clearly had no idea we’re being looked at. looking at incidents a second time that the ref had a clear unimpeded view of initially. a game where VAR didn’t change a single decision the ref made, somehow stops 4 or 5 times in total. load of rubbish.
    6 points
  5. Thought we played well, got the win and the goals we needed. We will easily go through to the next round. We have Chelsea up next in the league, why use more energy than we needed to? We have 9 games left, we will win them all.
    5 points
  6. Its most likely your eyesight that's going.
    4 points
  7. Yeah, I was thinking the same sort of thing about a couple of other situations. We are balls deep in the top four. A few seasons ago we would have been pulling our dicks off to get into the top four. Now we sail into it without a second thought. We just beat the two times CL winners, and in-form Porto 2-0 in the Quarter-Final of the Champions League and a few had a little whinge about us not winning quite hard enough. Win harder, dammit. We moan about the midfield, but to quote myself in a reply to somebody claiming Hendo is our worst midfielder... if Henderson is our worst midfielder, we are in fucking paradise because unless people want to go back to Salif Diao, Momo Sissoko, and Joe Allen (my wee Joe), then we should probably stop complaining quite so much and enjoy the fact that Jurgen Tiberius Klopp has improved us so much that we are on the verge of complaining about what colour paint the bogs have on the walls. It's the wrong shade of Red. Shanks wouldn't have liked this. I want the league. I want the Champions League. But we've got to take a minute and smell the roses, because we are improving year on year. Enjoy our resurgence, cunts*.
    4 points
  8. Really weird game. I was there so no real idea on the manufactured controversies. Thoughts: 1. Our crowd is full of entitled cunts. Moaning at only winning a European Cup quarter final 2-0. Leaving with 6 minutes to go. Berating Sturridge on his first meaningful appearance for ages. Life in the Upper Centenary. 2. Speaking of which, why do they always allow about 200 away fans in the non-hospitality seats in the upper centenary for European games? Accident waiting to happen. 3. Henderson is much better as our most attacking midfielder. Excellent tonight. The same can be said of most of our other central midfielders and I think Keita could rally excell there. Hard to see Shaq getting a look in any time soon. Keita did I Give the ball away too much, as did Bobby and (the otherwise excellent) Fabinho. 4. Playing a high press and charging forward in numbers against a counterweight-attacking side when 2-0 up at home in a European first leg? Welcome back 2016. 5. Trent was superb. Mo’s Movement was top draw. Just need his decision making to come back. Almost good in first half came from those two. 6. Fuck off VAR. 7. Big first 20 minutes at their place. Don’t concede in that period and we should be fine. Treat this like the Bayern 2nd leg please, not like Belgrade away. These are decent.
    4 points
  9. In fairness Shaw would be a lot more deft at tackling a KFC family bucket.
    3 points
  10. He’s a fantastic footballer capable of great things. I’m not saying take him out of the team. I’m hammering on about him not passing the ball because I think it is going to cost us despite how good he is. We’ve had a lot of luck this year in games when we’ve been drawing late on. I’d even say we were lucky in the Southampton game that they left so little back when they had a corner and we needed to win the game. He’s not going to score that Southampton goal every week. He’s not even going to do it every month. We’ve had keepers throwing it in their own net countless times this season when if he had passed the ball earlier in the game we wouldn’t have had to rely on it. It’s not even him not passing in those obvious breakaway situations it’s just his general attitude to it. He holds on to the ball so long it lets defenders get set. If he was a bit more selfless like he was last season then we would be clear at the top and the attack would be so much more fluent than it is. Can you not see Mane’s body language towards him?
    3 points
  11. Now there’s a player worth his salt.
    3 points
  12. Saw them at the Brixton Academy
    3 points
  13. As your house is now a work place, explain to her that the risk assessment states no children are allowed but you'll let her off this time providing she gives you £20.
    3 points
  14. Other people’s kids. Mrs Turdseye’s hairdresser mate has come round to do their hair and just dumped two kids under five in my living room. They’ve dragged every toy out and seem determined to break whatever they can. No doubt it’ll be me putting everything away again when they’ve gone. I wasn’t consulted about this. I want the hairdressing money back for babysitting these little pricks.
    3 points
  15. Should just use it for offside. Other decisions are just a matter of opinion and slow motion distorts most incidents.
    3 points
  16. Lots of 'elbows too pointy' stuff in this thread. Even struggling for confidence or ideas, he's still largely excellent. Opposition defences haven't read this forum, thankfully, so they still rate him enough to double up on him and leave gaping spaces elsewhere.
    3 points
  17. How is it killing us? We are top of the league with 82 points after 33 games and we have just won the first leg of our quarter final in the CL 2-0. It looks like we are bloody fuckin fine to me.
    3 points
  18. Last night was my first experience of it at the match and it was fucking shit. The fans inside the ground have almost no idea what’s going on either during or after the VAR process. Football has had years to prepare for this, has the benefit of numerous established equivalents in professional sport to learn from and has virtually no financial barrier to getting implementation right. For me, they need to have the whole thing on a TV screen in the stadium with a clear explanation of what’s being checked and then a clear outcome on screen. Or else fuck it off. Obviously it’s still at the teething problems stage, but these issues are more fundamental as last night was just bewildering.
    3 points
  19. 21 goals and 10 assists so far. You fellas must be balls deep in supermodels everynight.
    3 points
  20. Alls I can see is Patrik's glorious hair.
    3 points
  21. No,its simply the fact that people are realising that he is a much better player than most have given him credit for. Probably more to do with the public support of Klopp than anything else. I also heard terrible stick being given to Molby,Whelan,Ray Kennedy etc when they were at the club and Whelan captained us to trophies too. He got better in the eyes of some once he was gone.
    2 points
  22. Dildo Baggins is looking very David Moyesish. 4 defeats in the last 5. Lovely Jubbly.
    2 points
  23. Dion dublin’ down on his earlier remarks. Disappointment, but Barca have taught United how to play the game, be patient and move. It was a good solid, team performance from the boys in the luminous kits. Fits and starts for United. They got into the game after 25 minutes, but it wasn't enough. They have to do more on big nights like this. With Barca, when they had the ball they had three or four options, United had to look three or four times before they could pass.
    2 points
  24. Alan Smith's commentary is so boring he could make the sistine chapel sound like the dogs playing poker painting. He's started looking like a zombie from pirates of the caribbean lately.
    2 points
  25. I was balls deep in this female doctor who said her husband was looking after the kids.
    2 points
  26. You don't make Messi bleed his own blood.
    2 points
  27. I want them out so that the league becomes their only way into next seasons CL. I bet the Manc derby would be a nasty kickathon.
    2 points
  28. I see everything you see, mate. I made a comment the other day about it bugging me. But you're hammering on him now. He is no more or less selfless than last season, it's just not coming off as often. The entire attack is less good than last season, we've gone from 90 goals to 40-50 (the commentator mentioned it last night). I get that you're frustrated, but I'd urge you to balance it out with consideration for all the things he does bring to the team.
    2 points
  29. I don’t think that’s anything like an unfair point by The Guest, personally. Brilliant player who’s making himself somewhat less effective just now by being greedy and therefore taking the wrong choice on a regular basis.
    2 points
  30. Colleague: Morning, The Guest. The Guest: It’s 12:01, what are you, too fucking stupid to understand how time works? Blind? Too retarded to read a clock? Thick cunt.
    2 points
  31. Stick Salah out on the left wing crossing to Origi, far less damaging than what we're doing now with his shit finishing only able to bang in 50 league goals faster than ever striker for the club.
    2 points
  32. Only for the Trent one. For the others we were just waiting around trying to figure out what was going on. VAR is fucking shit. My observations on it from last night were: - As above the communication in the stadium was shit. For the other penalty review, it was only announced in the stadium that it was being reviewed after the review had happened. I had no idea what was being looked at. With all other VAR checks there was no announcement. - The most enjoyable part of a game is when a goal goes in. Had Mane's been allowed we'd have been robbed of the celebration and emotion around it and that's going to happen a lot. Any time a lino is unsure on an offside it will go to review and we'll be sitting around waiting for minutes while the team is back in their own half preparing for a free kick. - Across the two halves there were 4 minutes of injury time added in total. VAR decisions alone definitely took at least that without including time stopped for the goals, subs and some small pockets of time for players to get treatment. - It kills the flow of the game. There'll never be another goal scored like the one we had against Fulham earlier this season when it's fully in place.
    2 points
  33. 2 points
  34. Frighteningly impulsive and intimidating atmosphere.
    2 points
  35. Yes. And he's quicker to the ball because the other defender holds Mo's arm back. The ref might even have given Mo a free kick for the pull back, but probably correct didn't. The second incident with Mo stamping on defender's foot is a result of the holding back, however. Freekick Porto - no card - is probably the right decision.
    2 points
  36. He's been largely brilliant in Europe for eighteen months now. I'll never forget himself and Milner - another European hero - relentlessly bullying Roma's tattooed, faux-hardmen at Anfield last year.
    2 points
  37. They don't care what the redshite say but they all watched us last night.
    2 points
  38. Played my last wildcard on Fantasy PL to ensure I flatten the performance of 3 Chelsea and 3 City players, dropped Robbo and made Hazard my captain. I've done my bit , up to the team now.
    2 points
  39. Last season's form was unsustainable for all but Messi and Ronaldo.
    2 points
  40. There's a thing with politicians in that often when they retire they stop spouting partisan, sloganeering bollocks and come across as much more intelligent, likeable human beings than they ever were in their public position, no matter what their party political persuasion was. With ex-professional referees who were pretty horrendous, jumped up idiots in their professional life, they somehow become even more ridiculously stupid and lacking in any basic footballing knowledge when they are asked to comment on the game.
    2 points
  41. Moody cunt wouldn't shake Gerrard's hand after the 2001 UEFA cup semi.
    2 points
  42. About time the Isle of Man was recognised by UEFA.
    2 points
  43. 21 goals, 10 assists and he's a waster? Fuck right off.
    2 points
  44. I fucking despise Chelsea. Just win, Redmen - just.fucking.win.
    2 points
  45. Captcha 'I am not a robot' security checks. "Here's a selection of pictures taken using a potato. Pick the ones that show the shadow of a worker ant hauling a bit of leaf from a Vermont Cedar tree over a quarter-inch piece of ordinary grey rock that's been eroded smooth on one side."
    2 points
  46. Still not sure how they ruled Mané's goal offside. As the ball's kicked, you can clearly see the defenders left leg, with a blazing white sock, is level with Mané's chest.
    1 point



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