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  1. Credit to @El Rojo for the idea. With the new year having just been (Dave) ushered in, I thought what better time to scour the football world and rank the studliest of its young players. Conditions: To be considered a stud, a player must be 21 and under. Why? Because I said so, that's why. Only Gen Y and Zoomers apply. @Hades Also, no keepers because none of them are worthy. Methodology: If the player is already established in a big league, their national team or a European competition, he gets an advantage. Secondly, how flat-out electric is the player? If you watch him play and your conclusion is "wow, that kid is an absolute electric factory", he gets an advantage. Last but not least, how physically attractive is the player? If the answer is "so much so that I'd let him fuck my wife and I'd get pleasure out of it", he gets an advantage. In addition to their actual performances and achievements, every player will get ranked based on these three variables. One last thing. This will be long and comprehensive because I'm passionate about the subject. Let's get to it, baby. 15. Alphonso Davies, Winger, Bayern Munich and Canada, baby!!!!! Age 18. To start off, this kid has done absolutely nothing to deserve being on this list, but that's not important. What's important is that he is the chosen one. He is currently the only hope that my country of birth will produce a world class footballer and I have every confidence that he will lead the might maple leaf to World Cup glory in 2026. He's also a lovely example of an immigration success story. He was born in a refugee camp in Ghana and moved to Canada at a very young age so he could flee conflict. Thank fuck he chose Canada. In reality, I have no idea if he's any good or not because he's so young and has played weak competition, but Bayern saw enough to pay 10m euros for him and that hope will carry me through for now. Electricity: Very fast, shifty in tight spaces (oily hips as they say), can use both feet. The ingredients are there. I have to say, as his fellow countryman, my heart races when he runs with the ball and that's what counts. Looks: Sex. In truth, he could look like anything and it wouldn't matter. 14. Pietro Pellegri, Centre Forward, Monaco and Italy. Age 17. So, mostly because of injuries, this kid hasn't really done shit yet at Monaco after sealing a 21m euro move from Genoa. He only has 1 goal in 6 Ligue 1 appearances. Electricity: That said, at his former club, this is a guy who played a Serie A match at the age of 15 and is the youngest goal-scorer in the competition's history. If that's not electric, I don't know what is. Looks: Gotta be careful because he's not 18 yet, but my God is this kid good-looking. I mean look at this guy. He could fuck your girl at a moment's notice. I'll be honest, this is mostly why he makes the list. 13. Luka Jovic, Centre Forward, On Loan at Eintracht Frankfurt from Benfica and Serbia. Age 21 An important part of being a stud is doing work when on loan. Young players often find themselves in this situation and few actually prosper. Luka Jovic is bucking that trend as he scores goal after goal for Frankfurt. I've seen multiple places say that statistically, his numbers look repeatable (I don't have time to look at stats anymore myself) and he already looks like a pretty complete player, not just a finisher. He's got a bright future ahead of him. Electricity: Scored 5 goals in a single game this season. That's how you fucking dominate. Totally alphaed Fortuna Dusseldorf. It goes without saying that being alpha is an electric quality. Looks: Once had a blond fringe and brown sides for a hairstyle. Did well to get rid of that. Besides that he kind of looks like a high school bully. Like he could kick my ass and would enjoy it. Bad boy. 12. Marcus Rashford, Forward, Manchester United and England. Age 21 Regardless of bias, the kid is good. He's a pretty calm finisher having scored 39 goals thus far in all comps despite having been managed by two offensively conservative, over-the-hill frauds. Electricity: He's quick, has pace and is quite nippy. Those qualities do indeed make him electric in my eyes. Looks: He's disgusting, we all know that. His nose is so long he could probably pleasure a woman with it. No need for a pic, everyone knows he's ugly. 11. Jadon Sancho, Winger, Borussia Dortmund and England. Age 18 Young Jadon is currently tearing up the Bundesliga and is a key piece for top of the table BVB at the tender age of 18. We'll all despise him when United or Chelsea get him or if City pull a Pogba, but for now he seems like a decent chap. Electricity: Plays with vision, agility and flair, all key components to making a kid pure electricity. Looks: Lightskin, a redbone man, which I'm told women like. Lovely complexion. Not a totally repugnant face, although the facial hair is a bit weak. Pretty fresh haircut. Nothing really wrong with him. 10. Ruben Neves, Central Midfielder, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Portugal. Age 21 When he was 18, he captained Porto in a Champions League match making him the youngest captain ever in the history of the competition. Since then, got a move to Wolves where he's been pretty good. I'll be honest, I think he's a bit overrated because he's slow, not that agile and not that great defensively, but he's got technique in spades. Electricity: Can he hit a dead-ball into the corridor of uncertainty? Check. Can he hit a Stevie G Hollywood ball? Check. Can he hit a thundercunt from 35 yards? Check. Looks: Ruggedly handsome, strong jaw, lovely hazel eyes, 5 o'clock shadow, thick head of hair. Kid's got it all. 9. Frenkie De Jong, Central Midfielder and Centre Back, Ajax and the Netherlands. Age 21 This is the player who determines whether you know what you're talking about or not. Basically, if you don't acknowledge that he could become the best thing since sliced bread in midfield, get out of my face. His potential is completely off the rails. Once he signs for a big club he'll be a runaway freight train. Electricity: He's absolute velvet. Touch is softer than the finest of silks. He's got vision and moxy on the ball. Not a pussy. Looks: Like a token white kid. You, the reader, probably know a bunch of guys who look just like him, but one thing they wouldn't have is his head of hair, which is nice and textured. 8. Rodrigo Bentancur, Central Midfielder, Juventus and Uruguay. Age 21 So this guy is already a pretty regular starter at Juventus and you've gotta be pretty damn good to do that at the young age of 21. Was also pretty solid for Uruguay at the World Cup from what I saw. Electricity: I'm sure he's got qualities but there's nothing that jumps out at me. He plays for Juve and Uruguay so you can bet he's gritty and runs his balls off. Nonetheless, being electric also implies being mercurial and sometimes inconsistent and lazy so he loses a few points here. Looks: Has the G.O.A.T male height of 6 foot 2, so points there. Olive complexion and classic long on top, short sides haircut. Not super handsome, but your girl wouldn't say no. 7. Matthijs de Ligt, Centre Back, Ajax and the Netherlands. Age 19. Made his Ajax debut at 16 years old and just won the Golden Boy award this season. Has looked like a man among boys from the second he first stepped onto the pitch at Johan Cruijff Arena and is already a certain starter for a national team that has a deep talent pool at his position. Two words: stud muffin. Electricity: Centre halves can be electric too. You gotta be athletic, graceful, not a donkey on the ball and you gotta be able to play a high line. This kid fits all the criteria. Looks: Like a frat bro/finance guy. Clean cut but looks like he wouldn't have a weak chin if he had to fight. Pretty handsome. 6. Joe Gomez, Centre Back, Liverpool and England. Age 21 One of our lads. Despite unfortunately being a bit injury prone, really established himself as Virgil's partner and our second best defender this season. You can tell he's got huge potential and if he can stay fit - fingers crossed - he can become one of the best in the world. We can thank Drisco, Aka the great Sean O'Driscoll for blessing us with his wonderful scouting mind and scooping up young Joe from Charlton when he was one of BRodge's assistants. Electricity: Searing pace, an eye for a line-breaking pass, an air of confidence and cool charisma, versatility. He's the definition of an electric defender. Looks: Not strikingly handsome, but that's fine. Maybe Virgil makes him look like a scrub in comparison, I don't know. I think he should grow his hair out and have a fluffy afro. 5. Cengiz Under, Winger, Roma and Turkey. Age 21 Underrated. Carried his shitty Turkish team to second in their league, has already established himself as Roma's second best attacker besides Dzeko and has been vibrant and productive in the Champions League. He'll be another cash cow for Roma when the time comes. Electricity: His long shots are metaphorical thunder bolts. Also, he's a classic cut inside on his stronger foot and shoot one-trick-pony and those players are all electric. Looks: He has a fat face. Looks like the type of guy that will gain a ton of weight when he retires. For the purposes of this list, this is problematic. 4. Trent Alexander-Arnold, Right Back, Liverpool and England. Age 20 Academy product, lovely lad who does a bunch of charity work in the area, established member of a solid defense, disputed a Champions League final last season. People will say that he should become a midfielder, but I think he's a great modern right back. Has some lapses at the back here and there, but he's got the ability to learn and he's a great prospect, if not already a very good player. Electricity: Kid has an absolutely electric fetish. Pregnant women. I don't really get it myself, but it's interesting. Wand of a right foot and can do all sorts of nice things with it. Looks: Ears are a bit big, but we can't all be perfect like me. In fact, I would say it's kind of a perfect imperfection because he kinda still pulls them off. Has an athletic, lanky body that you could imagine him filling out at some point. 3. Gabriel Jesus, Centre Forward, Manchester City and Brazil. Age 21 Coming over to England from Palmeiras in January 2017, Gabby Jesus had all the hype in the world surrounding him. He had mystique. Ronaldo compared him to himself. Thus far, it's a little hard to get a read on him. He was great his first half season, decent last season in a title-winning side and he's been a bit crap this season. Still, he's a 21 year old kid who's been judged to have enough ability to lead the line for Brazil and get games ahead of Sergio Aguero. Gonna gamble here and say he'll be just fine. Electricity: For a Brazilian forward he's not actually that electric. He's got clever movement and is mobile. Good at scoring tap-ins. Meh. Looks: Actually find him quite handsome. He's always got a crisp fade which is important. Studs must almost always be looking fresh and his cut is always on point. In addition, he's got nice facial features and a warm smile. 2. Ousmane Dembele, Winger, Barcelona and France. Age 21 People who follow my tremendous activity on this forum will know I love this kid as a player. From the moment he took the pitch at Rennes I called him, and despite my tremendous knowledge, anyone could see he was an absolute supernova of a talent. I didn't have to go out on a limb. Since then, he's completed a massive move to Barcelona after gracing the Bundesliga with his prodigious ability. Despite being a bit of a cunt, he's proven to be productive and can be the x-factor in any game. Electricity: He's the blueprint. Accelerates like a LaFerrari, is so two-footed he doesn't know which one is weaker (so how would the defenders!), takes the piss with his dribbling, has a skinny, lanky, unathletic build that belies his outrageous talent. Absolute electric factory. Looks: Has the baby-face of all baby-faces. If he wasn't a rich pro athlete he'd be getting little-bro'ed and swirlied all over the place. Don't care though because his football is what's attractive and maybe that's what it's all about at the end of the day (no not really, but still). 1. Kylian Mbappe, Forward, Paris Saint-Germain and France. Age 20 Again, called him before most on here. Not a big deal. To be honest, the first time I saw him play for Monaco in December 2016 I raced on here to say how good he was in order to look smart because it was so incredibly obvious how good he was/is. I'm 24 and he's the best young player I've ever seen. He's got two Ligue 1 titles, one of them for Monaco no less. Won the World Cup and was it's best young player and overall attacker at the age of 19. He's a true freak of nature and that's what being a stud is all about. That's why he's numero uno. Electricity: Pace of a rabbit, agility of a chicken, power of a young thoroughbred. Only Glen Murray is cooler in front of goal. What a player, folks. What a player. Looks: Like a Ninja Turtle. If he was handsome, I'd think he was God himself. Thanks for reading. Thoughts? Comments?
    15 points
  2. I will give you my top 5 1 Carlton Coffcandy. 18 year old Antiguan keeper currently in the youth set up at F.C. Donut in Estonia. Likened to a young Frank Lane. Great things expected and would command a nominal fee. 2 Vernon Cardboard. 19 year old Welsh fullback currently on loan at Rapid Boill in Austria from Llandudno Athletic. Comfortable either right or left, imagine Steve Harkness crossed with Peter Crouch. Has a bright future. 3 Roger Rodgers. 16 year old nephew of Brendan a centre back with immense pace. In the youth team at Home & Bargain FC in the Zingari I in Liverpool. likened to Paul Parker as he is small in stature for a centre back. Plenty of time to grow and is expected to eventually grow beyond 5 feet. 4 Wim Wim Yeung. 20 year old Dutch midfielder on the books of F.C. Bong in the Dutch 12 tier. Hard as nails and with wonderful feet, two of them. Think Terry Hurlock in his pomp. Future superstar. 5 Avery Starburst. 17.Striker at French side Ouiouinon. Tall, gangly and fantastic in the air. A bit raw but to be expected, very tall at 7 feet but could have a high ceiling. Like a tall Kenny Miller. He is also a Liverpool fan.
    12 points
  3. I wanted to wait and let the dust settle a little before writing this, as much like my boy Dejan Lovren, this game had me all over the place. My head says we’re in great shape, with a four point lead having only lost once all season, and even that defeat was in a game of such tiny margins where we went toe to toe with the defending Champions and lost mainly due to not getting the rub of the green. There’s so much to feel great about, I know that, and it won’t be long before I feel that way again. It's just that this one hurts. Right now I’m still gutted and pissed off. Not pissed off at Klopp or any of the players (not even Lovren, which probably puts me in a minority), just pissed off that we lost to THEM and generally irked about certain things that contributed to it. I was confident going into the game but that was as much to do with how vulnerable City had looked of late than it was about how we have been playing. We’ve looked like we’re easing back into the blistering form of last spring, while City have been shipping goals and losing games. Why wouldn’t we feel confident? The problem for us, as it turned out, is that City were desperate. They couldn’t afford to lose the game and there’s also the personal aspect to it; they’re utterly obsessed with us these days. From Guardiola to their press officer to their sad as fuck shitty fans, they're utterly, completely, consumed with us. It started with us ending their unbeaten run and then knocking them out of the Champions League, and it's only gotten worse since we emerged as the biggest threat to their crown. As a result of all that, we ran into a buzz saw. I’ve never seen City that fired up and frenetic before. Even their fans were into it for a change. All things considered, it was a hell of an effort by our lads to make the game as close as they did, especially as I don’t think we played particularly well. We were too sloppy in possession for a start. We gave the ball away cheaply so many times and you just can’t do that against a side as good as City. In a way that can almost be viewed as a positive. Had we been at our best we’d probably have won, even with City as hyped up as they were. Basically the game turned on a few key moments that didn’t go our way. On another day they go in our favour and we win. They didn't though, and we lost. I kind of knew it wasn’t going to be our night after that crazy incident when Mané hit the post and the rebound somehow didn’t end up going in. It sounds stupid I know, as really there’s no logical reason why that should have any impact on the outcome of what happened afterwards, but when something like that goes against a team, how often do they overcome it? It was fucking unbelievable. Firstly, what a stunning move. The front three sliced right through City and Sadio was really unlucky that his shot didn’t go in off the post. Secondly, when Stones shit himself and lashed the ball into his own keeper's ugly fucking face, how did that ball not cross the line? Actually it did in my view. I’ve said several times before that the ‘whole of the ball crossing the whole of the line’ is a bullshit rule. As soon as more than half of the ball has crossed the line, that should be a goal. You can’t tell me that when virtually the entire ball has crossed the line that isn’t a goal. It’s a shit rule and should be changed, and not just because of this incident as I’ve always said it. That being said, the rules are the rules and it wasn’t a goal for the sake of 11 poxy fucking millimetres. How unlucky though? Almost as unlucky as the second clearance from Stones somehow not hitting Salah and going in. He mis-hit that clearance and kicked it into the ground, which is the only reason it somehow squirmed under Mo’s foot. Spawny cunts. There was so much bad luck crammed into those couple of seconds it was hard to shake the feeling that we were in trouble. And if that wasn’t enough reason to feel that it wasn’t our night, we then saw Manchester’s own Anthony Taylor intervene on City’s behalf by somehow not sending Vincent Kompany off. Here’s the thing. Not only was that tackle a red card, it was TWO FUCKING RED CARDS. The challenge itself was two footed and off the ground. It was out of control, which nowadays is a sending off. And guess what else? No-one really seems to be mentioning this, but he was the last man and Mo would have been clean through. It’s the clearest red card offense I’ve seen all fucking season and that baldy manc cunt should be struck off for failing to do his duty. In the immediate aftermath of the game I was annoyed by it but I didn’t believe that Taylor was the reason we lost. There were other factors. Some poor individual performances from our lads and a general collective sloppiness. City were the better side and deserved to win. Now, almost 24 hours later, I feel a little differently. City were the better side and on the overall balance of play just about deserved the win, but I find it hard not to see Taylor as the reason we lost because if he’d done his job the outcome of that game would have been hugely different. Going down to ten men in a game like this is fatal. Look what happened to us when Mané was sent off there last season. So yeah, I’m fucking steaming about this the more I think about it. Taylor bottled it because there is absolutely no way he can look at that and not think it’s a red card. Absolute bottle job of the highest order. Did he do it because he’s from Manchester? I wouldn’t go that far, but frankly it’s outrageous that he’s even in that position. How can you let someone from Manchester referee a game between a team from Manchester and one from Liverpool given the historic rivalry between the cities? It’s fucking insane and I’ll never know how this shit is allowed. Mike Dean isn’t allowed anywhere near Liverpool or Everton games even though he’s from the Wirral. What’s the difference? I don’t get it. And don’t give me this “he supports Altrincham” fucking bollocks either. Virtually anyone from a major city that follows a non-league team also has a ‘big club’ they support. Go to Marine and virtually everyone there will be a Liverpool or Everton fan too. Bottom line is Anthony Taylor, from Manchester, fucked up massively to the benefit of a team from Manchester. Dress it up however you like, but thems the facts. I don’t care if it seems like cryarsing, and I know there’ll be those of you reading this who will say we should look to our performance and what we did wrong and worry about that, rather than blaming the referee. I get that, but this was a game that was so tight, so close to call, and so fucking difficult for both sides that a decision like that would make all the difference. I even said to a few mates prior to the game that the only thing I was worried about was the fucking ref. Not Aguero. Not Silva. Not Guardiola. Not De Bruyne. Not Sane. Well ok, maybe a little about Sane as I think he’s their best player, but mostly Anthony fucking Taylor. And so it proved. Fucking twat. Jurgen should kick up such a stink and make sure he’s never allowed any games involving City or United ever again. We really needed him to do his job because I thought we were struggling in that first half. We had some dangerous moments in attack but they were mostly fleeting. Too often we were giving the ball straight back to City. That’s when we could even get hold of thing in the first place. I didn’t like how we started the game. In the opening couple of minutes we were passing it around at the back and taking unnecessary chances. Yes, that’s how we play, but sometimes the situation really calls for something else. I don’t want to see Lovren and Alisson playing one twos while a frothing at the mouth Aguero is waiting to pounce. In the opening twenty minutes just get them turned around and play the game in their half, not ours, until it settles down a bit. We love it when teams try to play it around in their own half in those games when we’re flying around like wasps at a picnic, so of course City were loving it too. They wanted to do to us what we have done to them, and I felt as though we helped them do it at times. Much has been made of Klopp getting his team selection wrong, specifically with his midfield. I don’t see it myself. That midfield trio has had success in big games, especially when what is required from them is to play at a hundred miles an hour and win the ball to start quick counters. It didn’t work though, partly because of how well City passed the ball and partly because it looked to me like Milner was a tiny bit off in his match sharpness. Understandable as he’s missed quite a few sessions over the last couple of weeks. He was fit to play, and against virtually anyone else then 95% would have been fine. But it’s a desperate, fired up Man City and we needed everyone operating at 100%. We didn’t get that. Milner was a little off due to fitness, and Lovren was way off because…. I don’t know, probably because he was due one having performed so well for the most part since his last horror show at Wembley against Spurs. He was nowhere near as bad in this game, but he was bad. I’m one of his biggest supporters and I’m certainly not going to jump on the “see, he’s fucking shit” bandwagon. This performance doesn’t make me think we need to get rid of him, but it does make me wish that Gomez had been fit. I don’t blame Lovren for the goal but I do think he should have done better. It was mostly about the quality of Aguero, but Lovren needs to be tighter to him and not let him turn like that. Perhaps the problem was that seconds earlier Aguero had threw himself to the turf looking for a penalty. The defence pushed out and left him lying on the floor, so Lovren kind of lost him. Aguero jumped back up, got himself onside and Dejan wasn’t tight enough to him when he picked up the ball and lashed it in before Alisson could react. Aguero does my fucking head in you know. The fact he scores in this fixture every year pisses me off, but it’s also that he’s even playing for City that bothers me. I feel like he’s wasted his career by playing for them. I don’t care that he’s won a couple of titles, he’s won them playing for fucking Manchester City. A great player like that, spending the majority of his best years playing for that club, just seems like a waste to me. He’s been well paid though so presumably he’s happy. Maybe one day further down the line, long after he’s retired, and he's sat around with Messi, Mascherano and Di Maria, he’ll have an epiphany and blurt out “what the fuck?? I spent most of my career playing for that shitty little club? What was I thinking?” Back to Lovren though. Even prior to that goal I thought he looked unsettled. He’d been booked for hacking down Aguero after Salah had given the ball away cheaply and put us under pressure. I didn’t think he needed to make that challenge as Virgil was right there alongside him and it was a long way from goal. You don’t want to have to play such a long time on a yellow card against forwards as dangerous as City’s. I don’t think the yellow card was the reason for some of his erratic play though, I just think he was too amped up, which can happen with him from time to time. When City got in front they could smell blood in the water and we were right under the cosh for a while and desperately needing the half time whistle. I was relieved to get in at 1-0 as I knew Jurgen would sort them out and we could regroup. We did. Sort of. It wasn’t really until Fabinho came on that we eventually settled into any kind of a rhythm though. Maybe he should have started, but I’ll be honest, I wouldn’t have picked him. The pace of the game will have been nothing like anything he’s experienced before, and as well as he’s done recently he does seem to have a sloppy pass in him. I didn’t blame Klopp for going with the tried and trusted, players who have experience of beating City and know what it takes. We looked much better when Fabinho was in there though. Still, I was struggling to see where a goal was going to come from, but then there it was, 1-1, and what a fucking goal it was. Brilliant football. Trent’s ball to Robbo was glorious, Robbo’s knock back for Bobby even more so. Dreamland. It was anyone’s game now, as the advantage City had was gone as was the momentum. Maybe their heads would go down and we could capitalise? If we’d scored again then I think they’d have folded. We were now forcing the issue and we had them on the back foot, but from one of our attacks that broke down they sprung a counter attack and we were undone. Sterling found space and drove through the middle before rolling it left to Sane. I knew he was going to score before he’d even got his shot away. He’s ridiculously good and we’ve done a phenomenal job of ensuring he’s not really been much of a factor in previous games. As I said, he’s probably their best player (other than a fully fit De Bruyne). It was a real kick in the balls. We’d overcome all that first half adversity to get ourselves level, and then just like that we were behind again. Could we come back again? On another day yeah, but this was just not meant to be. We had a few moments, a couple of scrambles where the ball didn’t break in our favour and Ederson made a terrific save to deny Salah. At the other end City were dangerous on the break and we needed Alisson to prevent Aguero scoring again after Lovren cheaply gave away possession. It’s been lost somewhat in the discussion about everything else that happened and the implications of what the result means, but that was fucking incredible goalkeeping. I don’t know how he managed to save that, it was remarkable. Aguero went round him but Alisson kept his feet moving as he went down and he was able to smother the shot. As I say, incredible. I don’t like how the final few minutes unfolded at all though and once again I’m pointing the finger squarely at Manchester’s own Anthony Taylor. With around five minutes to go City started making substitutions to waste time and break up play. That’s fine, part of the game, everyone does it and it’s smart. No problem with that, but I have a big fucking problem with Baldiola throwing a massive hissy fit and causing such a scene with the fourth official that play had to be stopped again because of it. Not only did it waste time, but it completely interrupted the flow of the game again. It’s hard to build pressure when the game is stop start stop start, and my question is why did Taylor feel the need to go over and talk to him if he wasn’t sending him to the stands? All he did was help City out there, the cunt. I saw Keith Hackett saying on Twitter that when a fourth official calls the referee over to deal with a manager, he has to then send him off. Makes sense. If he’s not sending him off, he shouldn’t stop the game. So that pissed me off. Taylor then booked Ederson for time wasting, but he didn’t add the time on. Seriously, this is basic stuff. City had a goal kick and Ederson took around 45 seconds to get the ball back into play. We also had two occasions when the crowd wouldn’t give the ball back to Trent to take a throw in. All told it wasted at least a minute and a half, probably closer to two, but it didn’t get added on. I’m not saying we’d have scored in that time, but it would have been nice to at least have the opportunity wouldn’t it? What also pissed me off was right at the end when Lovren played a stupid straight ball into the box that gave Van Dijk no chance of doing anything. That ball has to go wide first, which gives us a more favourable angle to launch the ball at big Virgil. Lovren’s composure always goes in these situations. Remember his 40 yard shot against Villa in the FA Cup semi a few years ago? It was just a big kick in the balls and it’s going to take a while for me to shake this one off. Of course a few weeks ago I’d have snapped your hands off to be four points clear after this fixture. I’m grateful for the position we’re in. The result hasn’t shaken my belief or trust in the team one jot either. I’m not thinking that we’re going to choke and start losing games just because we were beaten by City. We’re made of sterner stuff than that these days and the game was decided by such tiny details there's no reason to lose confidence. They're the best team we'll have to play and we don't play them again, so they're now relying on other teams to take points off us because they are powerless to do so. The fact remains though that a seven point gap is now four, and City have got their tails up again and will believe they can make up that gap. I’m not worried about Spurs, I never was worried about Spurs because if anybody is to overhaul us I feel as though they’ll have to win virtually every game. Tottenham can’t do that. City might though. They won something like 18 of 19 to start last season, so we know it’s possible, especially if we give them even the slightest bit of encouragement. We can’t let four points become two or even one. That would increase the pressure on us massively and give everyone the jitters. We need to go on another winning run immediately and show them we aren’t going to let them back in. You look at the games we have coming up and there’s no reason we can’t reel off five on the spin before we have to go to Old Trafford. If we do that, who knows, maybe City will slip up somewhere and we’ll have a bit of a cushion again. I’m less confident of us winning it now after this result, but it’s purely about the numbers and nothing to do with how we're playing. A ten point lead and for me it would have virtually been in the bag already. A seven point lead would have been tough for City to claw back, but four points really isn’t much. What is bothering me the most though is that losing to them sticks in the throat because I seriously fucking hate them. I hate Guardiola. I hate the financial doping and how the authorities have done NOTHING about it. I hate their shitty fans and it’s reached the point where I even fucking hate the Gallagher brothers now just because of who they support. Fuck Little and Large too, the pricks. Even players who’ve never really bothered me in the past are now bringing out the fume in me. Fuck Vincent Kompany and his fake nice guy act. He’s a cunt. A dirty, bulb headed injury prone cunt. Calling Mo “a pussy” after he hit him with that potential leg breaker. I hope Mo remembers that, because I fucking will. Fuck Bernardo Silva too. Little snide cunt. Where did that come from? He’s normally a nice little playmaking ball player who doesn’t get involved in anything. In this game he was like a Portuguese Joey Barton. Absolute cunt, wish someone would have fucking planted him. I could go on and on about City but this isn’t making me feel any better. Sometimes it does. Sometimes having a rant is cathartic. This isn’t though, it’s just making me more and more angry. If we lose the league to these cunts again I might well just pack this whole thing in for good as I don't think I could get over it. Don’t make me have to get a proper job, Reds. Put this one behind us and let’s keep spanking everyone and bring home number 19. Star man is Robbo. What a man. Team: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson; Henderson, Wijnaldum (Sturridge), Milner (Fabinho); Salah, Firmino, Mané (Shaqiri):
    11 points
  4. Bunch of fucking quims on here
    9 points
  5. Oh lads. Tune into my Transfer Twitter (invite only) over the next two days for mega news. Link on the usual MF page for paying members only
    6 points
  6. Stop grouping them together. Nobody gives a fuck about Solanke. But I am pissed off about Clyne for a number of reasons. We are depleted in defence already with Gomez and Matip out. It implies Lovren will be playing CB and Gomez playing RB to cover Trent or ahead of him. If Milner/Fabinho cover RB that depletes midfield options. If we lose another CB we are really stretching the squad. It has implications for left back as well as it means Moreno is more likely to play. We are still in the FA Cup and the Champions league, we need to utilise the entire squad to its fullest, especially if we progress.
    5 points
  7. Everytime I see him play I try and work out what, exactly is Hendo's role in the team? What is his superhero skill? He's no leader, he's not a tackler, he doesn't hustle the ball back like Firminho, he scores about as frequently as a solar eclipse, he doesn't foul to take out their star player, he's not a penalty boss or a freekick king. Runs around the pitch pointing like Donald Sutherland in invasion of the Body Snatchers. WTF hendo, what the actual fuck?
    5 points
  8. Made Broccoli and Stilton soup for the first time, was perfect with a sourdough baguette:
    4 points
  9. Conflated works better in that sentence.
    4 points
  10. Raw Power, it's a 9/10 for me. Apparently Iggy's vocals were run through a small Fender amp for the effect on most of the tracks. If you listen closely Iggy's not shouting on Search and Destroy, it's almost like he's whispering, it's actually very quiet. It's just cranked up in the console. Iggy's mix is basically Iggy stoned as fuck cranking everything to maximum. But it's not compressed ( in the sense of using a compression unit) it's compressed from the tape machine being dimed into the red. So you get that powerful 'out of control' distortion. It's all mid frequency dominant which creates that explosiveness energy. Nowadays all the Metal guys take all the mids out of their tracks and it leaves them sounding flat and lifeless. The push of the sound is in the mid frequency. Bowie's mix is more subdued. It's a better mix for sure, more articulation in the instruments and dynamics, but Iggy's mix is better for me because that's how it was intended. It was made to sound dangerous. Special mention has to go to James Williamson's guitar work on the album. Apparently the electric guitar parts are just an AC30. Nothing else. Williamson would string two guitars, one with a normal set of strings and one with these specific strings, that can be tuned up an octave so they sound like the high strings on a 12 string guitar. Apparently if you play both guitars together it gives a much better sound than a 12 string. The one with the higher octave strings is used on the acoustic parts in Gimme Danger. Standout track - Gimme Danger
    4 points
  11. Mr Suzy looked at me in amazement when I said that the other day! Then sighed rolled his eyes and said ‘the forum?’
    4 points
  12. In the space of 5 minutes after coming on, Fabinho had tracked a city player back and won the ball off him. Made himself an angle for his teammate to pass too. Played a forward pass under pressure and followed it up the pitch to support the attack while dragging the city players back and taking the pressure off our defence and won a clattering header against a city player on the edge of their box. Jordan Henderson hasn’t done any of that in the time he’s been here.
    4 points
  13. I don't think anyone had a terrible game including Lovren, it's just that against a team this good mistakes are amplified and you have to play almost perfectly, it's such fine margins. If we put that performance in against most other teams in the league we would have probably won 2 or 3 nil. The standard is gash this year and there's very few players in any other team capable of the finishes and general play Aguero and Sane showed tonight. Maybe Hazard and a couple at Spurs but that's it.
    4 points
  14. So Tottenham’s title challenge lasted all of three days then. Having somehow, inexplicably, gotten themselves within six points of us (four defeats and they’re only six behind??) they blew the chance to close the gap to three by shitting the bed against Wolves at Wembley. Spurs gonna Spurs I guess. They had the lead at half time too, before completely imploding after the break. Harry Kane put them in front with a brilliant goal. Fair play to him, we know what he can do with his right peg and from penalties and tap ins, but when he’s banging them in with his left from 25 yards it shows what a great all round striker he is. He’s also a massive twat of course, which he showed in the second half when he was booked for diving. It’s not the dive that makes him a massive twat, its the way he covered his mouth while he was abusing the ref. That annoyed me far more than it probably should. My displeasure was twofold. Firstly, don’t cover your mouth when you’re talking to an official as it just tells us all that you’re saying stuff you shouldn’t and it’s also ignorant as fuck. If you’ve got something to say, don’t hide it. Secondly, why is he doing it anyway? The gormless bastard talks like he brushes his teeth with superglue. Ain’t no busy lip reading bastard getting any joy trying to decipher what that big chinned slobbering goon is saying. He’s now Harry Kane MBE of course. He’s always been that in my eyes. The MBE standing for Massive Bell End. Seriously though, I’m struggling with this as I have no idea what it’s for. Presumably it’s for the World Cup, as Southgate got an OBE. England beat a few shit teams and found themselves in a semi final, which they lost. Yet they’re being lauded like the boys of 1966. This country are proper losers. Oh you beat Sweden and Colombia? You’re supposed to beat Sweden and Colombia you low expectation having muthafuckers!! Credit to Wolves though, they were boss. I’ve said before that they’re perfectly equipped to play against the better sides and the results they’ve had have against the big boys are remarkable for a newly promoted side. They’ve beaten Chelsea and Spurs and drawn with United, Arsenal and City. They’ll probably beat our fringe players in the FA Cup next week too. That Jiminez is a good player. I like him. He’s not lightning quick and he’s not prolific, but he’s clever. He was interviewed on MOTD immediately after Kane, and all joking aside, it was easier to understand the Mexican lad than the England captain. Conor Coady was loving it and was the first one in on all the goal celebrations. He’s the captain of course so no doubt he was delighted for his team, but I bet the Reds being top put a bit of extra oomph in his celebrations. Probably singing Allez Allez Allez too. Fuck you, Spurs. Having won at Chelsea and then followed it up by beating City, Leicester lost at home to Cardiff. It’s mad how that can happen. How annoying must that have been for their fans. This is an occupational hazard for counter attacking teams though. Leicester are good when they’ve got space to break into, but when they’re up against a defensive opponent and they have to make the play themselves it’s tough for them. Cardiff had drawn 0-0 at Palace so were more than happy to try and do the same again, but they went one better this time. They rode their luck and left it late though. Puel had subbed Vardy (again, he seems to do it every week, unless he leaves him out completely) when Madison won a penalty. With Vardy no longer on the pitch, Madison took it, Etheridge saved it but Madison looked certain to score the rebound before Sol Bamba came out of nowhere with a thunderous challenge. He had a hell of a game. He’s no Virgil Van Dijk but he’s probably just as important to Cardiff as Big Virg is for us. Camerasa won it two minutes into stoppage time with a beautiful strike from 25 yards. Great result for Cardiff and a kick in the balls for Leicester, who with the players they have really ought to be clear in 7th instead of slugging it out with Wolves, Watford, Everton and the Mancs. Their fans don’t like Puel and I can see why, but be careful what you wish for. Moving on, and there was drama at the Cottage as Fulham beat Huddersfield in stoppage time. Mitrovic got the winner with a shot that went through the legs of the Huddersfield keeper Lossl. Awful that, but he’s a bit shit isn’t he, that Lossl? Mitrovic is such a good player these days though, and as I’ve mentioned a couple of times this season he’s no longer the absolute head the ball he was back in his Newcastle days when he was rivalling Shelvey for ‘thickest man in the Toon’. Back then he was fucking nuts and had no self control whatsoever, but he’s grown up at Fulham and it’s been a long time since he’s been in trouble. That new found restraint was tested to it’s limit on Saturday though when Kamara took a penalty off him even though Mitrovic was the designated taker. There was a time not to long ago when ‘Mitro’ would have ripped Kamara’s head off for that, but as soon as he realised Kamara wasn’t going to back down he not only accepted it, but he went over and gave him a kiss for luck. It didn’t work, as the pen was shite and was easily saved by Lossl. The fans were booing and you could see the disgust in some of the Fulham players. Not cool that at all. You can see on the replay that as soon as the pen was awarded Kamara went running off to go and grab the ball. Selfish fuck. The normally affable Ranieri was fuming afterwards and in hi post match interview it sounded like he said “I wanted to kill him, that’s normal”. I rewound it back and played it three or four times and I’m sure that’s what he said. He also said that Kamara disrespected him, his team-mates, the club and the crowd. Ouch. Meanwhile, Everton lost again. This time at Brighton. Locadia got the only goal and Brighton’s back up keeper made a couple of important saves. Everton are proper shite though. Rondon put Newcastle ahead against the run of play at Watford but Doucoure came off the bench to equalise. He’s been heavily linked with PSG recently. We were linked with him over the summer too. I like him, but I’m not sure he’s that good is he? City got back to winning ways on Sunday with a win at St Marys. It wasn’t entirely convincing and they have a lot to thank that new Southampton manager for. Why the fuck didn’t he start Danny Ings? When I saw he’d left him on the bench I was fucking livid. I said last week that until I could remember his name I’d just call him “not Useless”. I take it back. Not even ‘Useless” himself would have made a bonehead move like that. He’s your best player, so pick him, you cunt. I genuinely fancied Southampton to get something from that game but that was based on the fair assumption that they wouldn’t leave their best player and top goalscorer on the bench. City went ahead, Southampton equalised and for a while we had a game on our hands. Then City went ahead with a fluke in first half stoppage time and then added a third almost immediately. Game over. Annoying as fuck. Onto 2019 and Everton wasted no time in picking up exactly where they’d left off. Jamie Vardy bagged the only goal of the game after capitalising on an elephant like touch from Keane. As I said, Leicester are much better when they can counter attack, and Everton are shite. The best bit came afterwards though when Marco Silva referred to ‘the Old Lady’ as “Woodison”. Hahaha quality freudian slip there. There were empty seats all over the place, which I’m not going to judge as footy is an expensive business and it’s Christmas and that. It is funny though because the Blues are convinced they need a 60k stadium and they’ll fill it. Seriously, they wouldn’t fill it if they were giving tickets away for free. Wednesday night’s games now. The Mancs won at Newcastle. I forwarded that on MOTD. Sick of this nonsense about their ‘revival’ already. Solksjaer couldn’t have hand picked four better opponents than he’s had so far, unless they let him play Everton four times. In short, nobody’s arsed about United, they’re irrelevant right now. The game of the night came at Bournemouth where my boy Troy headed Watford into an early lead. It was a wild first half as both teams just went at each other like two drunks at 2am on Matthew Street. Deeney made it 2-0 when he followed up on a loose ball after Deulefeu had driven at Ake. Poor defending but he made amends by heading Bournemouth back into it after Foster had made a stunning save. Bad luck for the keeper, might have even cost him save of the season, as no-one is arsed how good the save is when someone scores from the follow up. Wilson’s looping header got Bournemouth level but some fella called Sema fired Watford ahead. Who’s he? Where’s he been all season? Soon after it was 3-3 as my other boy Ryan Fraser finished off a lovely move that had more dummies than a Trump rally. All of this was in the first half, but as so often happens the second half calmed down massively and was far less eventful. Ben Foster made some brilliant saves though. After the game, both my boys were interviewed together. It was boss. Deeney was being Deeney, going off on one about how Gosling tried to 'do' one of the Watford players and that Doucoure also could have been sent off, but the ref “completely bottled it a few times”. Fraser just stood there clearly thinking “he’s talking bollocks here, but he’s much bigger than me so I’m keeping schtum”. Huddersfield are so hopeless now that they’re even losing at home to fucking Burnley. At least they got a goal from a striker though, which might be the first time all season I think. Of course it was Steve Mounie, as there’s no way that Depoitre bum was scoring. The lead didn’t last long as Chris Wood fired in from close range. Schindler was then given his walking papers for two quick yellows. Funny thing is, he didn't even know he'd been booked the first time so he was baffled when he got a second. Might be a good idea to write these things down in future. Possibly on some sort of list? What? Oh come on, that's gold that is. Not even Burnley could fail to take advantage of being a man up against Huddersfield, and Ashley Barnes got the winner. Best shit player in the league? He’s defo up there. Very good at what he does. Robbie Brady was sent off late on for a deliberate and slightly wild foul to stop a Huddersfield break. Not sure it was worth a straight red. I mean, in theory it probably was because he just cynically hacked the lad down with no intent of playing the ball, but usually it’s only a yellow when that happens. Mike Dean though. Loves his red card. Disappointing result as I don’t want Sean Dyche somehow ‘worming’ his way out of this (see what I did there), not unless it means Newcastle go in their place anyway. Wolves lost at home to Palace. They’re suffering from Leicester syndrome. They look good against better sides but when they have to make the play while coming up against inferior opposition mimicking their own tactics, they find it really difficult. A marginally offside Ayew broke the deadlock with seven minutes left (and started crying for some reason) and then the second arrived from the penalty spot (of course it did, it’s Palace) after Zaha had been brought down (of course it was Zaha, although this was a stonewaller). Down in the East End, West Ham were all over Brighton and had chance after chance but somehow found themselves 2-0 down. Dale Stephens fired in from a corner (wonderful technique that) and then Shane Duffy did likewise almost immediately. Fair play to West Ham for fighting back. Arnautovic is back from injury and they’re always a much more dangerous side with him around, as he’s fucking boss. He held off Dunk to make it 1-2 and then a minute later prodded in the equaliser. Neither side are in any trouble and neither are going to trouble the Europa League places, so a point apiece doesn’t help or hurt either. Across London, Chelsea were held to a goalless draw at the Bridge by Southampton. They have so many good players but Hazard is the only one who really scares you. They’re almost as reliant on him as Palace are on Zaha. It seems like every move they put together goes through him these days. Alvaro Morientes, sorry, Morata, did have the ball in the net but was just offside. Then he missed a good chance soon after. It’s not gonna happen for him, he should just move back to Spain or Italy. Alonso thought he should have had a pen when he was bundled over by Long, but the ref thought he dived. Looked a pen to me. That Southampton manager basically admitted afterwards he wrote off the Man City game and that’s why he rested players. “I don’t want to say I threw that game, but I knew we had more chance against Chelsea so I wanted my players fresh”. Fucking twat. Where’s your integrity to the spirit of competition? Now I know how my main man Neil Warnock felt all those years ago when Rafa screwed him over by resting players at Fulham. There is one ever so slight difference here though, as Rafa didn’t actually do anything wrong and Warnock was talking absolute Zlatan (and has been ever since), but still, fuck that Southampton manager, the City enabling cunt. Sarri revealed afterwards that he didn’t know they were signing Pulisic. He says he was asked a month ago what he thought of him, he told them he thought he was good, and then he heard nothing more until the deal was done. That’s a fucked up way to run a club, but it’s what Chelsea have done for years and they’ve had success doing it. Can’t see any manager being happy about it though, and Sarri may go the way of Conte soon if this continues. Arsenal bounced back from their bumming at Anfield by smashing sorry Fulham all over the Emirates. It was 4-1 but could have been double. Sessegnon should have put Fulham ahead early though but shot wide when clean through. He did the exact same thing at Anfield too. He then completely missed his kick from a few yards out when the goal was gaping. As much as I like him and would happily have him at Anfield, he’s an attacking left back rather than a forward for me, as his finishing is pretty shit. He can deliver a cross though, that’s for damn sure. He got down the left and put one on a plate for Kamara to score. Only one player celebrated with Kamara, which shows how pissed off they all are after the penalty shenanigans at the weekend. Fulham were two down by that point though and they conceded another two after it. They’re doing my head in as I feel as though they shouldn’t be this shit considering the talent they have. I mean fucking hell, they spent £100m last summer!! How can you be this bad? Moving on, and Spurs had a 3-0 stroll against Cardiff in a game that was over after 25 minutes. Eriksen and Son scored nice goals, while Kane got incredibly lucky when a defender’s clearance hit him and rebounded past the keeper. Of course he celebrated it as though he meant it, the absolute goon. Not that we should expect anything better from a man who is prepared to shamelessly accept an MBE while standing alongside genuine heroes. "What did you do to get an MBE then?" "Nothing much, just flew halfway around the world and risked my life diving into an underground cave to rescue some kids who'd got stuck. You?" "Scored a couple of penalties, three tap ins and a complete fluke in the World Cup" "Oh, ok. Against anyone good?" "Yeah, Tunisia, Panama and Colombia" What a shameless dribble chinned cunt.
    3 points
  15. We got less money for Solanke than what aRdja has spent on full English breakfasts this year. Edwards out!
    3 points
  16. https://socceronsunday.com/article/klopp-calls-for-panic-and-rioting-following-city-defeat/
    3 points
  17. Probably doesn't fit into this thread but I'm hysterical anyway. I fucking love us y'know; no clue what's gonna happen this season but I love our team, love our club and I love that mad fucking German. Up the pool.
    3 points
  18. Has The Guest ever been OUT of Hysterical Fanny mode?
    3 points
  19. We’re going to Pontins Prestatyn Sands for 2 weeks in July, spending all of August in the garden shed, then off to Southport for a long weekend in November.
    3 points
  20. I wish he'd just fuck off to Huddersfield or Burnley or somewhere else where he'd find his level because his level is not this club and him wearing the armband is really starting to get on my tits.
    3 points
  21. I don't find them particularly similar.
    3 points
  22. Gnasher will be along shortly, to post a link to a news story about Neil Kinnock and Baroness Warsi: if that doesn't convince you, nothing will.
    3 points
  23. I've never cared about a United result more than a Liverpool result. I've never watched a United match that didn't involve Liverpool. I've never acted as if I support another team just because they happen to be playing United. I've never sung anti-Manc songs except when we're playing United. There's rivalry - and then there's bitter obsession. I'll settle for the former and swerve the latter.
    3 points
  24. I fucking HATE Guardiola. The man is a whining, entitled, silver spoon pussy. He's football's equivalent of Jacob Rees-Mogg. It's very easy to 've magnanimous when you've got incredible wealth and you're coasting to big victories every week but his mask slips when he comes under even a little pressure. At Barca he inherited Rijkaard's team and was in the right place at the right time to benefit from Messi's emergence. Then he goes to Germany, to Bayern, who are head and shoulders already the best team, again rolling in cash. And now City, the richest oil cunts in the history of football. Some people have this fortunate fucking shithouse up on a pedestal. Not me, I detest the man, he hasn't got a thousandth of the humility or the class which Jurgen has, nor is he a fraction of the manager. Fuck off Josep you soft fucking rich boy fucking shithouse bluffing cunt.
    3 points
  25. I exclusively revealed this in July. Let those who doubt the sagacity of El Rojo's texts feel their cheeks burn with shame.
    2 points
  26. stannyr Player Valuation: £500k 32 minutes ago #6,403 alwaysblue said: 19m for Solanke would ruin the window for me. it's done, finished, money exchanged. carolinablue232 Player Valuation: £35m 30 minutes ago #6,405 blue to the bone said: Bournemouth in advanced talks to sign solanke for 19 million. Crazy money. We play em next. You know what happens Wtf? They already have King and Wilson. 19m for Solanke is even more absurd than the 15m they paid for Ibe. I’m convinced there’s a conspiracy and Liverpool secretly owns both Bournemouth and Southampton or at least has some horrible blackmail on them Encoder Player Valuation: £8m 26 minutes ago #6,414 Bournemouth and the RS must have some kind of dodgy agreement to avoid FFP or something. Outrgeous.
    2 points
  27. I really don't see how this is up for debate at all. Pete Townshend a fucking Paedo Roger Daltrey a tory cunt There is not one member of The Who where they are better than Zeppelin Robert Plant pisses all over Daltry John Paul Jones better Jimmy Page better John Bonham better It's not even close
    2 points
  28. Use plenty of sunscreen mate. Going on a cruise next week, getting the ferry over the water and spending an hour in Morrisons in New Brighton, then ferrying back.
    2 points
  29. Thinking of getting some sand and a paddling pool from B&Q, cranking the central heating up to maximum and sitting around in my shorts.
    2 points
  30. Last night I was livid at Lovren being targeted, and not standing up to the challenge, and gutted about the opportunity lost. Today I'm much calmer. Yeah Lovren had a shit game, but, he is our 3rd/4th choice centre back, and if you look around Europe, there aren't too many centre halves who would be willing to come here and be a reserve centre back available at an affordable price. And yes we weren't at our best, and yes we lost, but the margins were incredibly fine, and we very narrowly lost to a Man City team who were playing at their absolute best. They were very good last night. And a couple of weeks ago they were the best team in the world ever. We don't have to play them again this season in the league. Hopefully we ignore all the outside noise and ridiculous narrative about momentum and point swings etc, and just get on with doing what we've been doing all season, which if focusing on our own shit, and beating everyone else. I don't see any reason that we wouldn't, it's not like the performance was cause for concern at all.
    2 points
  31. Nowhere. Can’t afford it.
    2 points
  32. I was debating wether to go to Croxteth Park but paid my subs instead.
    2 points
  33. This. They sound fuck all alike. I tend to judge my bands on the great albums they made & for me everything from Led Zeppelin's debut to Presence (seven albums) are all at least 8/10. The Who only made one truly great studio album in my opinion (Who's Next) with Tommy, Quadrophenia & The Who Sell Out all a bit patchy. One thing I will say is that both bands live between 1968 & 1973 were probably the two greatest live rock bands ever. They actually played on the same bill in 1969, what would you give to go back in a time machine to that one? There's backstage footage from the gig on YouTube...
    2 points
  34. Zeppelin, and it's not even close.
    2 points
  35. They're due to play them on the weekend of the League Cup final, and with City almost having a bye in the semis with Burton, that match is very likely to get moved to a date later in the season. The later in the season that game gets rearranged, and if we're still in the contention, the less likely it is that they will put any kind of a shift in (see April 2014 for reference).
    2 points
  36. Still feeling pissed off, angry, sick, cheated and winded from that kick to the bollocks. Whenever we next encounter that filthy Manc cunt Anthony Taylor we should leg him know, loud and long, that he is a filthy, biased, bent, cheating Manc cunt.
    2 points
  37. Avoided diving in straight after tried to give it some time before adding thoughts. Frustration is the overriding feeling for me. We seemed to show them a bit too much respect early in game - Scared to over commit and it led to us as a team who play at best on front foot caught in a weird inbetween state ... once the shackles came off we looked more like ourselves but one move and finish did for us after we had fought our way back. They have learned from last season a lot versus us we need to learn from this too. I thought they showed incredible, intensity and hunger and desire - it is easy to forget how good they are and they were wounded animals tonight, hell bent on proving what they are. But we are close to them as a team - very close and even after a kick in the bollocks tonight we are 4 pts ahead of them - we can point to the 11mm, the post, the other goal line clearance but ultimately we lost the battle tonight - the war goes on....we are up against terrific opposition and it is going to take an unbelievable effort, but this team of ours is a good team, a very good team and it is all to play for. Mate of mine said tonight "imagine if we had gone there just a point ahead tonight and if they won we'd fall two behind but if we won we'd be four ahead, we'd be buzzing to go 4 ahead" OK we all know that wasn't the situation but it puts into perspective where we are....first loss of season in 21st game and it took the team who broke all sorts of records and are reigning champions and were at home to do it....and it was tight, very tight. The race starts in earnest now - very much game on. But that frustration is nagging away at me - wish we were playing in league on Monday - next Saturday feels a long way off, when we play before City and Spurs - let's get back on the winning trail and ask them the question again.
    2 points
  38. I genuinely didn’t think Trent was bad.
    2 points
  39. Fabinho was brilliant when he came on
    2 points
  40. Henderson is just so fucking bad it hurts me. Get him fucked off.
    2 points
  41. ... when someone starts a new thread and you have to tell them that they should be using a similar one that someone started eleven years ago that hasn't been posted in for 18 months
    2 points
  42. If yer on the Twitter, follow @rachchippendale - she’s an auld mate of mine from Crewe. Suffered really bad with it over the last 20 or so years, ended up having to pack in her job with Network Rail. But she’s really well informed, think she might have done a book, and she is involved a fair bit in trials. She’s a top bird and a Red, good drinker and used to party like a motherfucker.
    2 points
  43. Your focus might have been on man united failure. Mine wasn't. I never want them to win a fucking thing, but what they're doing will never, ever come anywhere close to what we're doing.
    2 points



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