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5 hours ago, Champions of Europe said:

It's a shit show isn't it. 

 

There's also this option of a pact with Farage, with seat selection and the ultimate aim being the destruction of the Labour party. 

The only reason Boris Johnson became a Brexiteer is because he worked out this was his best way of becoming Prime minister.

 

In the next election he will team up with Farage, with their aim of taking heavy leave seats in Labour areas. People that have vowed to never ever vote Conservative will happily vote for the brexit party to prop up the tories!

 

I'm just resigned to it now. We are heading towards a no deal exit one way or the other.   

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I don't think a No Deal scenario will happen, but imagine a 5 year stint by the Tories led by Johnson and his cabinet full of cunts? They'd sign up to all kind of deals in desperation, regardless of what BJ is now saying, it would be frightening what they'd try to push through as a No Deal scenario unfolded and people were busy worrying about that, it wouldn't be good from a social point of view or an environmental one. It would also be the Government responsible for the break up of the Union. 

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6 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

I don't think a No Deal scenario will happen, but imagine a 5 year stint by the Tories led by Johnson and his cabinet full of cunts? They'd sign up to all kind of deals in desperation, regardless of what BJ is now saying, it would be frightening what they'd try to push through as a No Deal scenario unfolded and people were busy worrying about that, it wouldn't be good from a social point of view or an environmental one. It would also be the Government responsible for the break up of the Union. 

Why 5 years? 

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https://labour.org.uk/press/10-questions-boris-johnson-refused-answer-parliament/

 

10 questions Boris Johnson refused to answer in Parliament

Facing his first Parliamentary statement as Prime Minister, Boris Johnson avoided scrutiny once again, refusing to answer 10 questions from Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn:

1. Will he match Labour’s commitment of a £500 billion investment to rebalance this country through regional development banks and a National Transformation Fund?

2. Given his appointment is the first Home Secretary for a generation to support the death penalty, can the Prime Minister assure the House that his Government has no plans to bring back capital punishment?

3. Before appointing the new Education Secretary was the Prime Minister given sight of the Huwaei leak investigation by the Cabinet secretary?

4. He was in the Cabinet that accepted the backstop and of course voted for it on 30 March this year. It would be welcome if he could set out what he finds so objectionable, having voted for it less than four months ago. Could he explain this flip-flopping?

5. There is also something eerily familiar about a Prime Minister marching off to Europe with demands to scrap the backstop. So how does the Prime Minister think he will succeed where his predecessor failed?

6. If the Prime Minister continues to pursue a reckless No Deal, does he accept that he would be directly flouting the expressed will of this Parliament?

7. Companies from Toyota to Asda have been clear about the dangers of No Deal. Is the Prime Minister still guided by his “F**k Business” policy?

8. The office of Prime Minister requires integrity and honesty, so will he correct his claim that kipper exports from the Isle of Man to the UK are subject to EU regulations?

9. To tackle the climate emergency: Will he ban fracking? Will he back real British ingenuity like the Swansea Bay tidal lagoon? Will he increase investment into carbon capture and storage? Will he back our solar industry and onshore wind, so devastated in the last nine years? Will he set out a credible plan to reach net zero?

10. Will he ask the new Foreign Secretary to prioritise the release of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe? And is he committed to working with European partners to restore the Iran nuclear deal and de-escalate tensions in the Gulf?

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16 minutes ago, mattyq said:

 

 

Yep, this is all true. There's no way we leave on October 31st. Johnson needs to be thwarted in his attempts to leave first, and then he can fight a general election on his own terms.

 

That's why it was so important for the vote of no confidence to be brought today, it was the last chance for the opposition to force the issue, before Boris has had the chance to set himself as the noble Brexit fighter being stymied by Remainers.

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The VONC would have been defeated & spun as him defeating gloomster remainers and giving him full rein with his Brexit aims.

 

You don't think that the likes of Starmer won't have been speaking in quiet with potential Tory rebels to see which way they would vote ?

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3 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

Yep, this is all true. There's no way we leave on October 31st. Johnson needs to be thwarted in his attempts to leave first, and then he can fight a general election on his own terms.

 

That's why it was so important for the vote of no confidence to be brought today, it was the last chance for the opposition to force the issue, before Boris has had the chance to set himself as the noble Brexit fighter being stymied by Remainers.

If a vote of no confidence was made today it definitely would have lost.  It would have been a complete waste of time, and been a boost for Boris.

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6 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

If a vote of no confidence was made today it definitely would have lost.  It would have been a complete waste of time, and been a boost for Boris.

Exactly. We may actually have one leader out there who actually knows what he is doing... 

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3 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

Yep, this is all true. There's no way we leave on October 31st. Johnson needs to be thwarted in his attempts to leave first, and then he can fight a general election on his own terms.

 

That's why it was so important for the vote of no confidence to be brought today, it was the last chance for the opposition to force the issue, before Boris has had the chance to set himself as the noble Brexit fighter being stymied by Remainers.

 

 

 

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Farage has said today that he doesn't trust Boris as he flip flops too much, too easily.

 

If a general election is called before Brexit, Even if Boris goes all in on a hard Brexit he will struggle to win a majority, so they will need somebody to prop them up. The only party that would actually help his new look hard Brexit party would be the original Brexit party.

 

The Brexit party will win seats at this election in high leave areas, so they will be the only obvious way of getting a majority and effectively running the country, certainly as far as Brexit is concerned.

 

Farage holds all the cards now. A Brexit Con coalition is heading our way.

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