Lib Dems

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, moof said:

That’s incredibly weak, even for you. 

 

It's hard to return serve when sacks of rubbish are being lobbed over the net.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Fucking peanut dodger!

 

 

 

(Apparently, judging her on her actions is laughably played-out and tiresome, so I've resorted to dissing her allergy for a bit of originality.)

[Jairzinho]

2 hours ago, moof said:

That’s incredibly weak, even for you. 

He's having to try and defend Jo Swindon, to be fair.

[sir roger]

Keeping the seat warm for Chukky

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

Glad you admit you were wrong to claim I do it at almost every opportunity.

Fuck off, you hypocritical troll. 

[Strontium]

23 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Fuck off, you hypocritical troll. 

 

I don't even know what I'm supposed to be being hypocritical about. 

 

Troll, that's a laugh. I won't suck Corbyn's cock, get over it.

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

I don't even know what I'm supposed to be being hypocritical about. 

 

Troll, that's a laugh. I won't suck Corbyn's cock, get over it.

He is right though to be fair. 

 

Still ignoring my other points about her then? Typical 

[Numero Veinticinco]

14 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

I don't even know what I'm supposed to be being hypocritical about. 

 

Troll, that's a laugh. I won't suck Corbyn's cock, get over it.

Get over it? I've done nothing but criticise him on here. There's very little to get over. As for what you've been hypocritical about, you just need to read back. 

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

[Strontium]

20 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Get over it? I've done nothing but criticise him on here. There's very little to get over. As for what you've been hypocritical about, you just need to read back. 

 

Yes, you claim to criticise him a lot, which usually amounts to criticism of his leadership skills and electoral chances. Very rarely anything substantive, like his actual record over many decades. Normally you're first in the queue to defend him on those occasions.

 

So far as I can gather, you think I'm a hypocrite because I pointed out that attacking the Lib Dems constantly for the coalition was a worn out tactic with rapidly diminishing returns, because twice in the last year I have mentioned in passing Corbyn's links with terror groups. I don't really understand the logic, but okay.

 

At the end of the day, the Corbyn thread is 90% supportive messages of him, and the Lib Dem thread is 90% attacks on them. I suggest you direct troll accusations elsewhere. 

[Bjornebye]

It is really quite staggering that cunts like this have any voice whatsoever. Stupid hypocritical bitch. Embarrassment of a party. Why can't they just face up and admit they are greedy cunts 

 

 

 

 

[cloggypop]

30 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Get over it? I've done nothing but criticise him on here. There's very little to get over. As for what you've been hypocritical about, you just need to read back. 

As if SD would spend time sifting through his past posts. 

[Strontium]

Still trying to get my head around the idea that the pro-renewable energy Lib Dems are hypocrites for accepting donations from the guy who developed the world's largest offshore wind farm. 

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

Still trying to get my head around the idea that the pro-renewable energy Lib Dems are hypocrites for accepting donations from the guy who developed the world's largest offshore wind farm. 

She claims to be anti-fracking. She accepted a huge donation off someone involved in fracking. Can you not see the hypocrisy? 

 

Well yes you can but you will deny its there. 

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

She claims to be anti-fracking. She accepted a huge donation off someone involved in fracking. Can you not see the hypocrisy? 

 

Well yes you can but you will deny its there. 

 

I've looked up hypocrisy in the dictionary for you, and you can explain to me which of the three definitions she falls foul of.

 

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/hypocrisy

 

1. The contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character or inclinations, especially with respect to religious and moral beliefs; hence in general sense, dissimulation, pretence, sham.

 

2.The claim or pretense of having beliefs, standards, qualities, behaviours, virtues, motivations, etc. which one does not actually have. [from early 13th c.]

 

3. The practice of engaging in the same behaviour or activity for which one criticises another; moral self-contradiction whereby the behavior of one or more people belies their own claimed or implied possession of certain beliefs, standards or virtues.

 

So far as I can see, she's not concealing her real character (1), she's not pretending to be anti-fracking (2), and she's not personally engaged in fracking (3). So where's the hypocrisy?

[Jose Jones]

Presumably if she’s anti fracking, takes a donation from a company involved in fracking and then is still anti-fracking, that is just winning?

[Strontium]

27 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Presumably if she’s anti fracking, takes a donation from a company involved in fracking and then is still anti-fracking, that is just winning?

 

Well, it seems win-win to me. 

 

I did think of a hypothetical example as to why accusations of hypocrisy in situations like this are ridiculous.

 

Let's take a fictional politician - we'll call him Jeffey Corden. Mr Corden has been very vocal about his opposition to Britain selling arms to Saudi Arabia (and I agree with him).

 

However, at the same time, Mr Corden and his party have been trousering millions of pounds in donations from Unite the Union, led by Mr McCluskey, a close personal friend of Mr Corden.

 

Unite the Union represents workers at BAE Systems, an arms company that has sold millions of pounds worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia. In fact, Saudi is responsible for a full sixth of BAE's business, and BAE has 6,000 employees based in Saudi (some of whom, no doubt, are Unite members).

 

What this means is that Mr Corden is taking huge amounts of money from the very people who have been building the weapons which Saudi Arabia has been using to kill civilians in Yemen.

 

Is Mr Corden a hypocrite for accepting this money? I don't think so, but if I follow the logic proposed by others...

[Jose Jones]

4 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

Well, it seems win-win to me. 

 

I did think of a hypothetical example as to why accusations of hypocrisy in situations like this are ridiculous.

 

Let's take a fictional politician - we'll call him Jeffey Corden. Mr Corden has been very vocal about his opposition to Britain selling arms to Saudi Arabia (and I agree with him).

 

However, at the same time, Mr Corden and his party have been trousering millions of pounds in donations from Unite the Union, led by Mr McCluskey, a close personal friend of Mr Corden.

 

Unite the Union represents workers at BAE Systems, an arms company that has sold millions of pounds worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia. In fact, Saudi is responsible for a full sixth of BAE's business, and BAE has 6,000 employees based in Saudi (some of whom, no doubt, are Unite members).

 

What this means is that Mr Corden is taking huge amounts of money from the very people who have been building the weapons which Saudi Arabia has been using to kill civilians in Yemen.

 

Is Mr Corden a hypocrite for accepting this money? I don't think so, but if I follow the logic proposed by others...

Pretty crap example I think that really.  Trade Unions are fundamentally different organisations to commercial companies, and integrally related to the founding, funding and membership of the Labour Party.

 

As an example of how the military industrial complex infiltrates aspects of both the left as well as the right in politics then you would be better off.

[Jairzinho]

An identical example.

[aRdja]

I genuinely believe hypocrisy isn’t overrated. Sixtimes is a Lib Dem member and he dislikes Corbyn, so it’s unfair to expect him to attack Lib Dem’s leader the way he attacks Corbyn. I think it’s okay to be partisan. Everyone is one way or another whether they admit it or not. 

[Bjornebye]

7 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

I've looked up hypocrisy in the dictionary for you, and you can explain to me which of the three definitions she falls foul of.

 

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/hypocrisy

 

1. The contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character or inclinations, especially with respect to religious and moral beliefs; hence in general sense, dissimulation, pretence, sham.

 

2.The claim or pretense of having beliefs, standards, qualities, behaviours, virtues, motivations, etc. which one does not actually have. [from early 13th c.]

 

3. The practice of engaging in the same behaviour or activity for which one criticises another; moral self-contradiction whereby the behavior of one or more people belies their own claimed or implied possession of certain beliefs, standards or virtues.

 

So far as I can see, she's not concealing her real character (1), she's not pretending to be anti-fracking (2), and she's not personally engaged in fracking (3). So where's the hypocrisy?

1 and 2 quite clearly !!!!

[aRdja]

1 hour ago, viRdjil said:

I genuinely believe hypocrisy isn’t overrated. Sixtimes is a Lib Dem member and he dislikes Corbyn, so it’s unfair to expect him to attack Lib Dem’s leader the way he attacks Corbyn. I think it’s okay to be partisan. Everyone is one way or another whether they admit it or not. 

Isn’t = is obvs

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, viRdjil said:

I genuinely believe hypocrisy isn’t overrated. Sixtimes is a Lib Dem member and he dislikes Corbyn, so it’s unfair to expect him to attack Lib Dem’s leader the way he attacks Corbyn. I think it’s okay to be partisan. Everyone is one way or another whether they admit it or not. 

 

Stop with this shite. If I thought she was being hypocritical, I would say so, no matter how partisan I am.

[sir roger]

As a totally illiberal Liberal she should suit you down to the ground.

[Creator Supreme]

15 minutes ago, sir roger said:

As a totally illiberal Liberal she should suit you down to the ground.

A bit like that non-homophobic honest guvnor bloke they used to have leading them, but let's not name names here, let's just call him Jim Barron!